The Australian Greens party

[drsmith]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

Green hypocrisy at it's finest.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/01/12/3111167.htm?section=justin

The donation list itself is also interesting.

http://greens.org.au/donors

Surely, major unions could put members contributions to better use.

 

[tothemax6]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

Yes the Greens and Labor are of one colour ie. green outside and red inside. They are too closely associated for my liking.
Senator Cory Bernardi describes them as a party with a Marxist heart and enviromental skin.

But the thing is, anyone who knows anything about politics instantly recognizes that this is the case (that the Greens are watermelons). You only need to hear a Green talk for about 5 minutes to know that they are socialists/communists who pretend to be all about the environment - providing you know what these things are.

The only people who vote for the Greens (and there are many), are those who have no knowledge of history, economics or politics. Alternatively they have some kind of sadism fetish, and get off on the idea of Australia being strangled to death under a Green government.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Greens Kill Penguins

In yet another misguided effort by ultra-conservationists, many poor little penguins are being slaughtered.

Through tagging their flippers with heavy metal bracelets, for research, they have a 20% less chance of survival, are poor breeders, and feeders of their young, and have 40% less surviving progeny than their peers who escape the green's bracelets.

When will this incessant gaia-bothering mob of loons stop interfering with mother nature.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...ow-survival-rate/story-e6frg6so-1225987372302

The latest study, published yesterday in the journal Nature, found that king penguins with flipper bands had a 16 per cent lower survival rate and produced 39 per cent fewer chicks during a 10-year period. "These birds have been marked for life," said Yvon Le Maho, an ecologist at the University of Strasbourg and senior author of the study.

Please prevent your local green from starting it's Prius this morning before giving an assurance that this will stop.

gg

 

[burglar]

Re: Greens Kill Penguins

gg,

It's Ok. It's Ok.

Dead and dying penguins will leave nests vacant!
Untagged, homeless penguins can take them up and slow their housing bubble!

Long term, it'll only be a blip on the market.

 

[IFocus]

Re: Greens Kill Penguins

GG the greens are to busy fighting for the gay rights of whales to worry about the environment.

Please prevent your local green from starting it's Prius this morning before giving an assurance that this will stop.

Pure gold

 

[nioka]

Re: Greens Kill Penguins

Please prevent your local green from starting it's Prius this morning before giving an assurance that this will stop.
gg

You bust another myth. I thought the true greenie still drove a smokey Vdub. I thought they only wanted everyone else to drive a Prius.

 

[moXJO]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/national/no-time-for-finger-pointing-over-floods-greens-warned/story-e6frfku9-1225988908215

Senator Brown says the coal-mining industry should foot the bill for the Queensland reconstruction efforts, claiming their operations are partly responsible for the floods.

"It's the single biggest cause, burning coal, for climate change and it must take its major share of responsibility for the weather events we are seeing unfolding now," he said.

But Resources Minister Martin Ferguson warned Senator Brown that he should remember the floods have affected not only the mining companies, whose Queensland mines have been brought to a halt, but also the workers.

Noticed Bob Brownstain was quick to point the finger. I seem to remember them being up in arms when they were blamed for the deaths of Victorian families killed in the fires due to their stupid policies.
Greens are a nasty little political blight in an all ready scum filled arena.

 

[sails]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/national/no-time-for-finger-pointing-over-floods-greens-warned/story-e6frfku9-1225988908215


Noticed Bob Brownstain was quick to point the finger. I seem to remember them being up in arms when they were blamed for the deaths of Victorian families killed in the fires due to their stupid policies.
Greens are a nasty little political blight in an all ready scum filled arena.

Yeah totally agree and he should resign with such stupid statements, IMO. And to think this man is holding the puppet strings to the Gillard government.

Wonder what he thinks caused the floods in 1893. These types of floods are a rare event and were occouring long before global warming was thought of to rob the population.

 

[Smurf1976]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/national/no-time-for-finger-pointing-over-floods-greens-warned/story-e6frfku9-1225988908215


Noticed Bob Brownstain was quick to point the finger. I seem to remember them being up in arms when they were blamed for the deaths of Victorian families killed in the fires due to their stupid policies.
Greens are a nasty little political blight in an all ready scum filled arena.

Ah yes, I was waiting for it...

All that coal we've burnt has finally caused some havoc. The climate is back to being as bad as it was in 1893. It's just was well though, only two years ago coal was apparently causing a drought that would never end in the very same places that are now flooded.

The sad thing is, this sort of nonsense from the Greens will inevitably cause the public to lose interest in legitimate climate research, environmental issues and the like. It's the old "boy who cried wolf" scenario.

 

[sails]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/national/no-time-for-finger-pointing-over-floods-greens-warned/story-e6frfku9-1225988908215


Noticed Bob Brownstain was quick to point the finger. I seem to remember them being up in arms when they were blamed for the deaths of Victorian families killed in the fires due to their stupid policies.
Greens are a nasty little political blight in an all ready scum filled arena.

I was thinking that perhaps Bob Brown has decided that attack is the best form of defence. I understand the greens are opposing any new large scale dams on rivers. Tell that to some of the people who have lost so much. While dams have their own problems, they should not be scrapped entirely. Without Wivenhoe many more homes and business would have gone under.

green policies: http://greens.org.au/policies/environment/water-inland-aquatic-environments

8. there should be no new large-scale dams on Australian rivers.

 

[Julia]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

[
Greens are a nasty little political blight in an all ready scum filled arena.

What a perfect summary of the political arena.

Yeah totally agree and he should resign with such stupid statements, IMO. And to think this man is holding the puppet strings to the Gillard government.

Wonder what he thinks caused the floods in 1893. These types of floods are a rare event and were occouring long before global warming was thought of to rob the population.

Yes, indeed. It's such a stupid thing to say that you'd have to think even the most ardent Greens supporter is going to start questioning their loyalties.
But perhaps not, given logic was clearly not their strong suit in the first place.

 

[wayneL]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

The sad thing is, this sort of nonsense from the Greens will inevitably cause the public to lose interest in legitimate climate research, environmental issues and the like. It's the old "boy who cried wolf" scenario.

That has already happened to a large extent.

 

[Calliope]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

Yes, indeed. It's such a stupid thing to say that you'd have to think even the most ardent Greens supporter is going to start questioning their loyalties.
But perhaps not, given logic was clearly not their strong suit in the first place.

Bob Brown supporters should hang their heads in shame for elevating this goose to Senate control. He is a nasty piece of work.

However we know from reading their nonsense that they live in another world, where rational thinking flies out the window.

 

[SM Junkie]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

Shame Shame Shame...how can he say such an illogical statement at a time like this. For starters I'm not quite sure how he can prove the coal industry are to blame and thereby liable to funds some of the recovery.

I know that the flooding is devastating and the effect long reaching, but at the same time I'm very thankful that the future is brighter for our farmers who now have water in their catchments. I'm thankful that the Murray River is in flood and will hopefully start to repair itself, something the Government and the Greens have not been able to do.

 

[drsmith]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

The energy sources that drive human civilisation will be responsible for the extinction of the dinasours before the Greens are through.

Perhaps they would serve us all better by turning themselves to the following aspect of the floods;

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...aiting-to-happen/story-e6frg6z6-1225988980919

Labor publically dismiss the rubbish of their political partner, but what's going on behind the scenes ?

 

[Logique]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

Greetings Doctor.

Vaclav Klaus Blasts Al Gore’s Climate Alarmism
http://www.independent.org/blog/?p=1125

Czech Republic President Václav Klaus (formerly Professor of Finance at the University of Economics, Prague), who is also the new President of the European Union, has recently blasted former Vice President Al Gore for unsubstantiated climate fear-mongering......
......The debate over climate change is sadly not really about climate science. It is about a proto-religious (pantheistic), neo-Malthusian, anti-development worldview that seeks to control the peaceful endeavors of people to improve their lives by imposing “environmental” central government planning (eco-corporatism), with plenty of interest groups seeking to use such government power to enrich themselves.
Feb 3, 2009

 

[sails]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

Greetings Doctor.

Vaclav Klaus Blasts Al Gore’s Climate Alarmism
http://www.independent.org/blog/?p=1125

Logique, that's wonderful paragraph expressing this whole debacle so perfectly and eloquently..

Here is is again without the italics to make it easier to read:

".....The debate over climate change is sadly not really about climate science. It is about a proto-religious (pantheistic), neo-Malthusian, anti-development worldview that seeks to control the peaceful endeavors of people to improve their lives by imposing “environmental” central government planning (eco-corporatism), with plenty of interest groups seeking to use such government power to enrich themselves.
Feb 3, 2009"​

 

[Calliope]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

Bob Brown's ardent supporters on this forum are strangely silent on his latest stupidities. I suppose it takes a certain amount of rash courage to admit you are a member of a crazy sect. If it were me, I think I would stay in the closet.

 

[Gringotts Bank]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

There exists hidden agendas on both sides of this argument, unfortunately. That makes proper debate impossible.

Ultimately, most people will argue a case that has their own self-interest at heart, rather than what is real.

Capitalists could be accused of climate change denial because their main interest is in raping the earth for every dollar they can, regardless of the environmental cost.

Greens could be accused of wanting to damage the economy because they have never tasted financial success, and so feel envious.

There's a whole range of possibilities for why people take a stance one way or the other, and mostly these remain hidden. That means you can't really take anyone at their word.

Our actions and opinions are driven by our unconscious. The conscious mind does its best to explain what's going on, but really has no idea! First step is to understand your hidden motivations, and be willing to accept they might be a little unsavoury.

Do you hate wall street bankers with their suits and ties and big bonuses?
Do you secretly hate greens with their dreadlocks and tree hugging?

Come on now, be honest.

 

[Logique]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

Hidden agendas in the science world too GB. You need grants and other funding sources, and tenure, to do research.

I challenge anyone to go to CSIRO seeking support, moral or financial, with a hypothesis that challenges the contemporary climate change alarmism. You wouldn't get past reception.

But to answer your question: '...Do you hate wall street bankers with their suits and ties and big bonuses?
Do you secretly hate greens with their dreadlocks and tree hugging?...': No, I certainly don't stereotype either group.