The Australian Greens party

[Mofra]

Re: Greens destroying business

Heartbreaking story, but nothing to do with greens or greenies, and everything to do with beaurocracy. A change of government does not lead to a change in state or federal public service staff. It draws parrallels with India's insane levels of beaurocracy that make any reform (be it social or economic) a slow and stunted process. Anyone actually surprised the Commonwealth games are already looming as a huge disaster?

 

[wayneL]

Re: Greens destroying business

Most of the bureaucratic impasse is on purported environmental grounds.

 

[noco]

Re: Greens destroying business

Kevin Andrews MP recently gave an account of what the Greens really stand for and received no media attention whatsoever. Why is the media giving imunity to this party when in fact they should be exposed. Most of the voters who voted for the Greens at the last election in protest, have little idea what they could do to Australia if they were ever elected to govern.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...ange-our-society/story-e6frg6zo-1225954629630

 

[alphaman]

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Kevin Andrews MP recently gave an account of what the Greens really stand for and received no media attention whatsoever.

Rightly so. I mean, would I bother with Gillard's account of what Abbot really stands for, or Hockey's account of Swan?

I do note Bob Brown's intention to ban banks from raising interest rates above RBA overnight cash rate. That astonishing stupidity is straight from horse's mouth, and that alone is enough to turn me off.

 

[kotim]

Re: Greens destroying business

The greens are full of fruit loops and weirdo's, all the sort of people we are letting more and more decide what is best for us all. Anyway, sooner later all these new fangled ideas on living etc fade away.

Who cares what the greens say and do, take em on and have some fun

 

[nioka]

Re: Greens destroying business

I do note Bob Brown's intention to ban banks from raising interest rates above RBA overnight cash rate. That astonishing stupidity is straight from horse's mouth, and that alone is enough to turn me off.

I'll bet it gets him more votes than it loses!!!

 

[wayneL]

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I'll bet it gets him more votes than it loses!!!

Which reminds me of this quote:

"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." -- Winston Churchill

 

[Julia]

Re: Greens destroying business

I'll bet it gets him more votes than it loses!!!

Unfortunately, I bet you're right on this.
He is, however, wasting the parliament's time on this. The major parties won't consider going along with him.

He must know this, so it would have to be a purely political, vote-grabbing effort on his part.

Pretty funny to see politicians on all sides looking silly now that the Reserve Bank's last minutes have been released, making clear that they considered the banks would have to increase rates more than the RB increase of 25 basis points, due to the increase in their cost of funding.

The politicians will have to pull their heads in now, or risk seeming to insult the RB Board.

 

[Julia]

Re: Greens destroying business

Which reminds me of this quote:

"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." -- Winston Churchill

Indeed. Does anyone remember a segment "The Chasers" did a few years ago where they went out on the streets and asked ordinary citizens a few pretty ordinary questions relating to current events. No doubt the responses were edited, but they put up some of the more ridiculous comments with the balloon caption "This Person Votes!!!"

 

[happytown]

Re: Greens destroying business

Which reminds me of this quote:

"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." -- Winston Churchill

which reminds me of this quote:

Where does this "far right" thing come from. I don't see any fascists around here.

 

[wayneL]

Re: Greens destroying business

which reminds me of this quote:

Why?

 

[drsmith]

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I love the Greens.

Don't worry about reading The Australian. Just take a look at their fine policies from their website.

I think I'll go hug a tree in ainticipation it will protect me from the wind and rain.

 

[drsmith]

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I take back what I said above.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...s-guts-on-greens/story-e6frg6zo-1225955203217

God bless The Australian.

 

[Logique]

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G'day Dr Zacchary. Interesting article from Sheridan, '..pernicious and extreme..' ha ha.

I hadn't realized the Vic Libs were going to preference the Greens last. I little doubt they have resisted hierachy pressure from some quarters, so they're showing political courage there.

 

[Logique]

Re: Greens destroying business

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/a-breath-of-stale-lies-in-parliament/story-fn6e1lzz-1225955191665
Terry McCrann From: The Daily Telegraph November 18, 2010
McCrann: A breath of stale lies
'....
...What made her thoroughly dishonest article truly exquisite was the headline: "Carbon price now or we'll pay later"....Except you don't have to. There is a very simple way not to pay more for power today and also not to pay more for power tomorrow.

Don't put a price on "carbon" -- actually, the first and biggest lie, it's carbon dioxide. And I'm still waiting to be told: when does the "price on carbon" extend to your breathing? The so-called price on carbon is a totally artificial construct.

Whichever way it is done, it is an entirely discretionary tax, exactly like the GST. Only far more pervasive -- it will tax everything...'

Picture is from the link. Circling like so many vultures aren't they.

 

[Buddy]

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Yes, they have done a deal of Faustian proportions (was die Welt im Innersten zusammenhält). Will Mephistopheles (read BB) sieze Julia's soul or will the angels intervene? Somehow I doubt the latter given Julia's previous form in that area.

 

[drsmith]

Re: Greens destroying business

G'day Dr Zacchary. Interesting article from Sheridan, '..pernicious and extreme..' ha ha.

I hadn't realized the Vic Libs were going to preference the Greens last. I little doubt they have resisted hierachy pressure from some quarters, so they're showing political courage there.

The Australian is only "slightly" biased.

Things Sheridan missed was their proposed 66.5% effective tax take on profit from resource extraction and the cost of air travel taking into account the full emvironmantal impact. Being a public comment piece, I suppose more serious digging into the Greens policies is not required to achieve that objective. Still, from an entertainment perspective, it was a read I enjoyed.

As for the Victorian election I hope the Vic Libs win, if for no other reason than their stance against the Greens.

I note Wayne Swan in that image is still bowing, but who is he bowing to ?
The leader on the left or the leader on the right ?

 

[Bat_Ears]

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Which reminds me of this quote:

"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." -- Winston Churchill

From America, but still funny:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouXB-tvUF4w

 

[Logique]

Re: Greens destroying business

Mike Taylor was placed in an intolerable position by the Fed govt. His resignation marks him as a man of honour.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/12/07/3086516.htm?site=newcastle
Murray-Darling Basin Authority chairman Mike Taylor has resigned just two months after the authority's release of the controversial plan to restore the health of the ailing river system..

..The authority must follow the provisions of the Water Act in formulating its plan and there had been confusion over how much weight the authority had to give to social and economic impacts when considering environmental needs.

In today's statement, Mr Taylor said he had written to Water Minister Tony Burke about new advice the authority has received about balancing the three areas.

He says the advice received by the authority confirms it "cannot compromise the minimum level of water required to restore the system's environment on social or economic grounds".

Mr Taylor also says balancing the requirements of the Water Act against the social and economic impact on communities will be "a significant challenge".

"The chair, Michael Taylor, stated that a sustainable plan for the Basin would require far more than [just] a decision by the authority on how much water should be transferred from human uses to the environment," the statement says.

Mr Taylor says a successful basin plan needs the Commonwealth and states to work together with relevant stakeholder groups, and while the authority has an important part to play it cannot perform the task alone...

 

[nioka]

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..The authority must follow the provisions of the Water Act in formulating its plan and there had been confusion over how much weight the authority had to give to social and economic impacts when considering environmental needs.

In today's statement, Mr Taylor said he had written to Water Minister Tony Burke about new advice the authority has received about balancing the three areas.

He says the advice received by the authority confirms it "cannot compromise the minimum level of water required to restore the system's environment on social or economic grounds"...

With the current flow into the Murray and the flow that will continue for the next few months I'd say that the Murray has had 10 years worth of allocation. So half to make up for the last 5 years and the other half a credit against the next five years.

Problem fixed.