Yes, the amount of dead is a huge. Again, death is death, wether it's 10 or 1000. However, I don't see it as fair to just count the dead this time around. What about the total sum? What about munich olympics? What about all those planes hijacked? What about the years and years of innocent israelis killed in in bombings around the world? What about the embassies in other countries that are bombed, and killing not even israelis, but just local people earning an innocent living?
It's too easy to just say this time around the massive. Add the years up.
I don't think I have read a more forlorn argument for one "side" yet.
It's as if you allow the Nuremburg rallies in the hope that Poland won't follow.
Kids have to apologise first, then act out the behaviour. You don't allow them to continue to scream abuse and cross your fingers.
Whoever wrote that twaddle is beyond a twit.
Oh wait a second, this is a thread about israel in gaza
Oh wait a second, this is a thread about israel in gaza... in any case, how would all the other killings justify the massacre that is taking place now. Again, the logic beggars belief...
Yeah and many jewish people have been massacred for centuries in Europe. Its like saying you cant stand a Zionist, not that Zionism is exclusively based in Israel. Jewish people have been attacked in many places in the past and not just by Muslims. Was Carlos the Jackal a Muslim?
It is a terrible war just like any other and its tragedy that so many people have died.
no it doesn't. this isn't just a single isolated incident of israel storming into gaza and kicking heads for no reason at all, it is part of a much wider, much longer struggle between competing ideologies and belief systems. the justifications both sides employ have mounted over a great deal of time, a huge mound of bodies and deep emotional and psychological scarring, and to be perfectly honest rowie your narrow minded bodycount obsessed emotional blathering is starting to get tedious.
omg children are dying!!1! lets make a huge issue out of something that is happening all over the world, but just focus on one instance, and for bonus points lets focus on one where the children who are dying are being used as weapons of war (physical war, propaganda war and psychological war) by a terrorist organisation which publicly states its desire to commit genocide.
This massacre is currently taking place, if another one happens which requires another thread to start, I will be the first to express my distaste, irrespective of whether the victims are jews, muslims, christians or whatever! U get my point????
This massacre is currently taking place, if another one happens which requires another thread to start, I will be the first to express my distaste, irrespective of whether the victims are jews, muslims, christians or whatever! U get my point????
I don't think I have read a more forlorn argument for one "side" yet.
It's as if you allow the Nuremburg rallies in the hope that Poland won't follow.
Kids have to apologise first, then act out the behaviour. You don't allow them to continue to scream abuse and cross your fingers.
Whoever wrote that twaddle is beyond a twit.
Anne Penketh: Gaza negotiations are the battleground for Egyptand Syria's 'Arab Cold War'
Egypt and Syria are exploiting their negotiations with Hamas in a titanic struggle that will determine Arab leadership in the Middle East, according to analysts.
An "Arab Cold War" is raging between the two countries for supremacy over the Gaza crisis, said the Chatham House Middle East analyst Nadim Shehadi. In the Egyptian camp are other US allies such as Jordan and Saudi Arabia, while behind Syria are Qatar, Yemen and Algeria as well as its political (non-Arab) ally Iran, which backs Hamas and the Shia fighters of Hizbollah in Lebanon.
Absolutely I get your point. I commend the fact that your respect human rights!
But just remember in years to come when your own civil liberities or human rights have been whittled down to almost nothing and robbed by the actions of terrorists.
Well, no. Why wait for another thread? Why not argue rationally in this one?
Gordon - how about the entire history of massacres spanning back to the start of human civilisation? Oh wait a second, this is a thread about israel in gaza... in any case, how would all the other killings justify the massacre that is taking place now. Again, the logic beggars belief...
But just remember in years to come when your own civil liberities or human rights have been whittled down to almost nothing and robbed by the actions of terrorists.
What on earth do u mean???
Are you saying all those kids & civilians are guilty???...or are u really just jewish
umm ... our government is already whittling down civil liberties and human rights under the excuse of protecting us from terrorism. (see various anti-terrorism and anti-money laundering legislation). Remember Dr Haneef?
Let me clarify, Israel has been the brunt of major terrorist activities to their embassies world wide. To dismiss those deaths is not fair. In counting israeli deaths versuses hamas deaths, one has to include those too.
I'm not saying their isn't tremendous death right now. That is indisputable. I agree 100% israelis response is overwhelming. However, again to what degree does someone or a country say "enough is enough" and the then try to annihilate the opponent.
One can argue for both sides til your blue in the face. But no matter who you support or agree with, one cannot deny Hamas is just as guilty of stoking the flames of a fire.
Is there a certain number that defines a massacre? So when hamas blows up a bus and 12 people die, are they not massacred?
This is a circular argument.
Israel: Stop publically disavowing our right to exist and we can talk.
Hamas: Cool.
Discussion ensueth...
For some reason you didn't understand my penultimate post. I can't help that.
Your logic is extremely confusing and alot of the time doesnt make sense. Like your aetheism reasoning in previous posts, quite a load of tripe.
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