Islam: Is it inherently Evil?

[noco]

Women in Western societies are all equal to their male counterpart?

80% of the pay for the same work.

Being sexualised like objects; are somehow told that if they're as skinny as a board with no boobs, that's sexy. Are now told that if they're housewives, you know, spending time at home to raise the kids, that that's somehow not as "worthy" as getting a job in the workforce and offload the kids to grandma or some centres... and there are no domestic abuses and violence? All us men treat our women good and proper?

Dam, in the freest and bestest country in the world, women aren't permitted to decide their own pregnancies in most states. And if Trump have his way, it'll be out the door because life matters as long as it's in the womb; and if the woman died from lack of healthcare, that's what will make them stronger or something.

Anyway, this is getting too much.

Why do Muslim women put up with barbaric behavior?

My bet is that goes on here in Australia but we never hear about it....So if there were Muslims women being beaten in Australia wouldn't they have a better chance of escaping to a women's shelter?

 

[noco]

This why the government should close all Muslim schools.
Muslim kids are being brain washed with this crap 5 times a day at Muslims schools.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10206312655575811&set=p.10206312655575811&type=3&theater

 

[Tisme]

Wait... ISIS calls for the death of Muslim leaders in Australia because they're "apostates"... yet Muslims are all evil like ISIS and those in Australia are evil?

See how that kind of contradict itself that every Muslim love ISIS or are terrorist?

Perhaps just a ruse to make them look like clean skins?

 

[Value Collector]

So what do you think of Sharia Law VC ? Should we allow it in this country ?

No, we are a secular country, no religious laws should form part of our legal system, whether they be Jewish, Christian or islamic.

 

[Value Collector]

Here is video instructing Muslim men how to beat their wives and not only in Saudi Arabia but world wide

Here Is a video of some christians burning an old lady alive because she is a "witch".

 

[Value Collector]

They quickly learned to speak English...I can also speak for the Italians.

In 30 years we will be saying the same thing about muslims, while we hate on the next wave of entrants.

 

[SirRumpole]

In 30 years we will be saying the same thing about muslims, while we hate on the next wave of entrants.

Not while they still maintain their archaic and faulty ideology.

 

[Tink]

Well we can't be secular if we still say the Lord's Prayer in Parliament.

 

[noco]

Here Is a video of some christians burning an old lady alive because she is a "witch".

Your video does not indicate which country this applies to or how long ago the incident took place...Are able to elaborate with some more information?

 

[SirRumpole]

Here Is a video of some christians burning an old lady alive because she is a "witch".

They don't appear to be in a Western secular democracy.

 

[Value Collector]

Not while they still maintain their archaic and faulty ideology.

We accept the Italians and most of them are still catholic.

Well we can't be secular if we still say the Lord's Prayer in Parliament.

Again, find the word bible, christian or Jesus in our constitution, and I will stop calling us secular.

Your video does not indicate which country this applies to or how long ago the incident took place...Are able to elaborate with some more information?

Horrible things are happening all over Africa in the name of christianity, do some research and you will see its not limited to this incident.

They don't appear to be in a Western secular democracy.

So what?

 

[SirRumpole]

So what?

Primitive people have more reliance on superstition and religion because they are less educated and less critical thinkers, so barbaric acts are more likely to happen in places like that.

 

[noco]

We accept the Italians and most of them are still catholic.



Again, find the word bible, christian or Jesus in our constitution, and I will stop calling us secular.



Horrible things are happening all over Africa in the name of christianity, do some research and you will see its not limited to this incident.



So what?

She is a witch if she flies her broom stick more than 150 meters above the ground...

 

[Value Collector]

Primitive people have more reliance on superstition and religion because they are less educated and less critical thinkers, so barbaric acts are more likely to happen in places like that.

Yes I agree, religion can have bad outcomes, but whats your point?

She is a witch if she flies her broom stick more than 150 meters above the ground...

Or they can just be some one practicing local witch doctor rituals who have their town turn against them once the catholics come to town.

 

[SirRumpole]

Yes I agree, religion can have bad outcomes, but whats your point?

I should have thought it was obvious. Primitive countries are more likely to have religious inspired violence because their inhabitants are less educated. So the point is that it's invalid to show videos of religious violence in primitive countries and say that is comparable to what happens in advanced societies.

So where are your examples of Christian violence in Australia ? We can show examples of Islamic violence in Australia, so that is the basis of comparison; ie Islamic vs Christian violence in the same environment.

 

[Ves]

So what do you think of Sharia Law VC ? Should we allow it in this country ?

Can you explain what you think "Sharia Law" is? Without understanding what you think it is, it's fairly hard to answer this question.

 

[Wysiwyg]

I don't know man, people can do whatever they want as long as it does not harm others and the community. That's the kind of value and freedom we're all trying to protect right?

Beautiful!

What people are saying is the people who live in or come to this country with plans of terrorist attack in the name of a certain religion, as we have already seen here and overseas, will not be accepted. The good members of that religion can be fighting against the terrorists/would be terrorist/terror preachers within their religion. I seriously want that to be happening otherwise the good ones may not be good at all. That is the question, what is the ultimate goal of that religion? Is it a religion of peace?

 

[Value Collector]

The good members of that religion can be fighting against the terrorists/would be terrorist/terror preachers within their religion.

The problem with that statement is that you are talking as if Islam is one religion, when its not, its like christianity, its actually made up of many religions.

Has any protestant religion ever been able to change the catholics doctrines? I don't think so.

Asking a moderate muslim to change the behaviour of ISIS would be like asking a baptist to change the catholic religion, they are separate things

 

[SirRumpole]

Can you explain what you think "Sharia Law" is? Without understanding what you think it is, it's fairly hard to answer this question.

It's a code of conduct for Muslims (similar to canon law for Christianity), but one that provides penalties for breaches. It's based on the Koran and Mohammad's teachings.

For example one of it's rules are that Muslims can only marry other Muslims.

That is clearly a breach of a persons right to marry whoever they want, and the reason why a princess was beheaded in Saudi Arabia.

 

[Ves]

It's a code of conduct for Muslims (similar to canon law for Christianity), but one that provides penalties for breaches. It's based on the Koran and Mohammad's teachings.

For example one of it's rules are that Muslims can only marry other Muslims.

That is clearly a breach of a persons right to marry whoever they want, and the reason why a princess was beheaded in Saudi Arabia.

Is it the same in every Muslim country or is it flexible? Are the penalties interchangeable for non-physical punishments in modern times?

Do other "Western style" laws often operate alongside Sharia?