Islam: Is it inherently Evil?

[Tink]

Our heritage has always had a Christian Church based in the area, to cater for the community.

Based on our Christian values as a nation.

 

[Value Collector]

That would be the Catholics then.

I don't think the Catholic Church is that active in land purchases that they are bidding on every government parcel of land that comes up, but of course yes, if the catholic was the highest bid they can have it.

 

[Value Collector]

Our heritage has always had a Christian Church based in the area, to cater for the community.

So what? What does that have to do with denying Muslims the right to build their place of worship?

 

[Wysiwyg]

John Oliver delivers the facts about the refugee crisis.

The challenge is the people who come into the country, use the resources, get fed, clothed and schooled by the country then go out and kill innocent people. Boston bombers, truck nutters, shooters, 11-9 etc.. Sure they are few but it only takes one to destroy the lives of many. Vetting and community vigilance the best defence.

 

[noco]

We can start with the UN's universal charter for human rights, refusing to accept or deny refugees based on their religion would be a breach of human rights, yet people like Pauline Hanson are calling for that.

You kind of have it backwards, offcourse "not stocking halal foods" isn't a breach, but calling to ban halal is.

If people want to ban a mosques, yet they would be fine with a Catholic Church, yes that's a breach.

I think the UN should start with the human rights of women in the ME being tortured instead of worrying about some unruly kid in a Townsville youth detention center with a spit hood on his head.

Just look at this barbaric mob of Muslim A$$holes betting the life out of a women....What a mob of cowards....I also watched a video a day or two ago where this woman was stoned to death....Even her two sons helped on the act......She had the blood drained out of body until she collapsed and died.

Do you go along with behavior and would you be happy to see this sort of thing in Australia

So I think my friend you have got your priorities wrong.

 

[Value Collector]

I think the UN should start with the human rights of women in the ME being tortured instead of worrying about some unruly kid in a Townsville youth detention center with a spit hood on his head.

Just look at this barbaric mob of Muslim A$$holes betting the life out of a women....What a mob of cowards....I also watched a video a day or two ago where this woman was stoned to death....Even her two sons helped on the act......She had the blood drained out of body until she collapsed and died.

Do you go along with behavior and would you be happy to see this sort of thing in Australia

So I think my friend you have got your priorities wrong.

Refugees are fleeing that sort of barbaric behaviour, and I want to assist them, you are saying you don't want to allow refugees to flee to safety, so it's you that has your priorities wrong.

 

[Value Collector]

Vetting and community vigilance the best defence.

I am not saying we shouldn't conduct vetting, I am just saying that deciding based on religion alone is not only stupid, but a breach of basic human rights.

I am also against people trying to Instil irrational fear into the community, especially if the purpose is to cause hate against a minority.

Noco is terrified of terrorists, yet he is more likely to die in a car crash, but I bet he doesn't hesitate to jump in a car, there is healthy fear and then there is phobias, if you are scared of terrorism, you have a phobia, and it's the purpose of terrorism, so congratulations Noco, you are the patsy in the Isis poker game.

 

[noco]

Refugees are fleeing that sort of barbaric behaviour, and I want to assist them, you are saying you don't want to allow refugees to flee to safety, so it's you that has your priorities wrong.

And just how do you propose to assist those women?

This conversation was about the UNHRC wanting to investigate some unruly kid in the Townsville youth detention center who continuously spat at officers and that is the reason they placed a spit hood on his head...... I emphasized the fact the the UNHCR should get their priorities in order.

The way things are going ATM in Australia with almost daily demonstrations and riots in Melbourne and Sydney and very few are being arrested particularly in Melbourne under Daniel Andrews, it won't many years down the track when Sharia law is introduced here and you will have the same barbaric acts carried out by Muslims.......A woman has to prove her innocence where as Muslim man has to be proven guilty.

 

[noco]

I am not saying we shouldn't conduct vetting, I am just saying that deciding based on religion alone is not only stupid, but a breach of basic human rights.

I am also against people trying to Instil irrational fear into the community, especially if the purpose is to cause hate against a minority.

Noco is terrified of terrorists, yet he is more likely to die in a car crash, but I bet he doesn't hesitate to jump in a car, there is healthy fear and then there is phobias, if you are scared of terrorism, you have a phobia, and it's the purpose of terrorism, so congratulations Noco, you are the patsy in the Isis poker game.

I think you are romancing with your self stating I am terrified of terrorists.

I live in a part of the world where, we at this stage, don't have a problem.

Keep it clean without the name calling.

I do not see why we have to put up with these Muslim hoods disrupting the daily lives of people mainly in Sydney and Melbourne....I am sure there would be some people fearing will it happen to them with some Muslim maniac driving along a footpath killing innocent people and whist several explosive plots have been foiled, it will happen as they get smarter...Car bombers.....Suicide bombers.

 

[luutzu]

Our heritage has always had a Christian Church based in the area, to cater for the community.

Based on our Christian values as a nation.

What part of that cherished Christian Value that will be offended or in any way damaged by permitting Muslims to build a place of worship?

Christians can't even use one of the Commandment to not worship any other God but Himself... because Allah and God are both the same Creator. I mean, there's not a lot of difference between the two religion.

Now, ignore religion for a minute... The great Australian value that Christians built... that system and culture does permit freedom of religion, yes? Are Australian laws broken? Then can we conclude from that that no Christian value are broken too?

 

[luutzu]

I think you are romancing with your self stating I am terrified of terrorists.

I live in a part of the world where, we at this stage, don't have a problem.

Keep it clean without the name calling.

I do not see why we have to put up with these Muslim hoods disrupting the daily lives of people mainly in Sydney and Melbourne....I am sure there would be some people fearing will it happen to them with some Muslim maniac driving along a footpath killing innocent people and whist several explosive plots have been foiled, it will happen as they get smarter...Car bombers.....Suicide bombers.

Terrorism is a real problem, no one's making light of it. But I think the point is to not let them win by being terrorised and do something stupid ourselves.

We do have security and intelligence agencies watching over us all... and those people aren't daisies when it comes to cracking heads and taking names noco.

 

[Tisme]

What part of that cherished Christian Value that will be offended or in any way damaged by permitting Muslims to build a place of worship?

Christians can't even use one of the Commandment to not worship any other God but Himself... because Allah and God are both the same Creator. I mean, there's not a lot of difference between the two religion.

Now, ignore religion for a minute... The great Australian value that Christians built... that system and culture does permit freedom of religion, yes? Are Australian laws broken? Then can we conclude from that that no Christian value are broken too?

You're seeing Islam in action in Indonesia at the moment, where the public are being commanded by their religious leaders to lynch the Christian governor of Jakarta for blasphemy, no doubt to foist a hardline Islam on the nation.

 

[SirRumpole]

The way things are going ATM in Australia with almost daily demonstrations and riots in Melbourne and Sydney

Really ?

 

[noco]

Terrorism is a real problem, no one's making light of it. But I think the point is to not let them win by being terrorised and do something stupid ourselves.

We do have security and intelligence agencies watching over us all... and those people aren't daisies when it comes to cracking heads and taking names noco.

Yes an our intelligence agencies are doing a great job but it is not fool proof and sooner or later the big will slip though the net.

 

[luutzu]

You're seeing Islam in action in Indonesia at the moment, where the public are being commanded by their religious leaders to lynch the Christian governor of Jakarta for blasphemy, no doubt to foist a hardline Islam on the nation.

Read before that it's not just because he's a Christian.

Note how he's a Christian and a Governor? How did he get there if the Muslims-majority country's Muslims didn't also voted for him.

Can't recall what he did exactly, but it's something about him bashing Islam the religion; biases against Islam in favour of his Christianity.

Cana't really do that bro. That's like an Aussie politicians going into politics to share the wealth back to the poor and working class.

 

[luutzu]

Yes an our intelligence agencies are doing a great job but it is not fool proof and sooner or later the big will slip though the net.

Yes, but we can't lock them all up in some concentration camp, can we? Can't go the Final Solution route either.

Seriously though... there is no such thing as total safety. Not from any thing, not from any group of people.

If we make policies that can somehow promise to provide that, then after we and our Yellow Emperor came out of Court for violation of the Constitution and stuff, I got a Harbour Bridge to sell you.

There are bad drivers, dangerous drivers... should we ban all Asians from driving? ha ha [I can say that because I'm Asian, alright?]

Anyway, as the Chinese says, when the cauldron is over boiling, remove fire from under it. Not freakin add more fuel, thump our chest and ask them to bring it on.

 

[Value Collector]

your self stating I am terrified of terrorists.

You actually said you are glad you don't live in one of the big cities where it is likely to happen, this means along with all your other comments expressing fear and worry, that it's something you are afraid off.

 

[SirRumpole]

when the cauldron is over boiling, remove fire from under it.

Sounds good to me.

If Muslims are causing problems, don't bring more in.

 

[luutzu]

Sounds good to me.

If Muslims are causing problems, don't bring more in.

Muslims have been here for generations. I went to schools with some of them... and suddenly they're all terrorists. Suddenly their religion will make them criminal and violent. Come on.

 

[Value Collector]

Terrorism is a real problem, no one's making light of it. But I think the point is to not let them win by being terrorised and do something stupid ourselves.

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Big vicious dogs can be scary in certain situations, It's rational and healthy to have a spike of fear as a German Shepard charges you, that fear should be an alarm bell that makes you take action.

However,

A phobia of dogs in general, that sees you crossing the street to avoid a puppy, or avoiding public places or parks incase you see a golden retriever or sees you calling for all dogs to be muzzled, is irrational.

I see the people that are scared of moderate islam and want to ban the burqa, or who let the fear of terrorism change their actions in everyday life as being like the people scared of puppies, with the dog phobia.