Value Collector
Have courage, and be kind.
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It's not 93% of migrants, it's 93% of refugees in their first 12months in the country.
Yes you may be right but nevertheless 93% of all unemployed migrants is still a burden on the tax payer.
This is the problem Luu, the Islamic terrorist work on fear and intimidation.....
Yep, and it works, you and the other Pauline Hanson types are scared and intimidated.
It's funny, the American far right call us guys with some socially left views snowflakes, yet they are the ones in hysterical fear, who feel they need to carry hand guns to go and get their groceries.
Lol, there you go again, trying to help out the terrorists by spreading fear, you are basically helping them out, Isis would love to know that you fear them.VC, I hope it does not happen to you or one of your innocent family walking down the street and then mowed down by some crazy Islamic terrorist.
I am so pleased I don't live in any of the major cites where this is more likely to happen.
Lol, there you go again, trying to help out the terrorists by spreading fear, you are basically helping them out, Isis would love to know that you fear them.
Why the hell would I be scared of something that has such a low probability, I will just live my life carefree and enjoy my self, I would never let fear of terrorism affect me.
If I were to worry about anything cutting my life short it would be heart attack or cancer, heart attack kills an Australian every 12mins, but even that won't stop me enjoying a bowl of garlic fries with a couple of beers.
You have to enjoy life, why be scared of everything, maybe you need to stop watching the news, it's bad for you I think.
VC, you may be an exception who is very brave or naive but there are thousands of people who do fear for their lives not knowing if they will be the next to suffer at the hands of some Islamic terrorist.
There seems to be a small group on this Forum who jump to protect and condone the Islamic activities in this country of ours upon which in my younger days was not known except for some minor skirmish between the Catholics and the Protestants, but there was no killing.
May I suggest to those who do condone Islam, would you be prepared to take into your house just one refugee to feed, clothe and accommodate...Just one?
No one condone terrorism noco. Come on, that's insane. And definitely not VC. I mean the dude literally went to war to stop that kind of stuff.
We have seen that large concentrations of Muslims cause trouble wherever they are.
We can't have our foreign policy dictated by terrorists, that's just stupid.
ISIS and their kind are criminals no matter how honorable you think their cause is. They need to be wiped out not pandered to.
Where is the evidence that that incident was terrorism related ?
Thing is, you can't "wiped out" terrorists. Haven't we been trying that since... ever?
I'm not suggesting we "pander" or let anyone dictate our policies. Just that we might want to be smart about the kind of policies to follow, rather than just do whatever stupid nonsense because we can.
So if we're alright with going into any country uninvited, setting up military bases and shoot anything we don't like... then we should grow up a bit and think that ey, maybe there are people who doesn't like these kind of stuff happening on their soil.
Then we can shrug and say, yea that's too bad they don't like it. Suck it up. Might makes right and, as the ancient Greek Historian observed, the strong do as they please while the weak suffer as they must.
That's a realist view of history and current event. It's preferable to these PC nonsense about something being wrong with Islam; look how horrible and backward and vile Islam and Muslims are. that they're all terrorists, always causing trouble and murdering innocent people because they somehow don't see "US" going into their country to do good for them.
Isn't it the responsibility of responsible citizens in a democracy to understand the facts, see the reality... then once we're aware of it, decide. Then if we think that what we do is "worth" all the sacrifices our people have to take on, alright, sacrifice it is then.
Just it's a bit much to begrudge the sacrifices we have to make as consequences of our action.
This is not to excuse violence or to condone terrorism in any shape or form. It is to say that when we wage wars on people, don't expect them to play nice. There's only one Gandhi and one Dr Martin Luther King Jr.
The Muslims are the perpetrators of violent acts against the people of the Western world and you say be nice to them.
What should we do, just let them run rampant over us?
It is a case of kill or be killed...Take your pick.
It's not black and white. And not every Muslim are ISIS. Not every rebel group in all those countries are ISIS either... we know this because the CIA and the chiefs in Washington are arming certain groups among them, right?
Wars are pretty easy to understand: both sides think they're doing good, ultimately. Both think God's on their side.
Anyway, to quote the Yellow Emperor when he was asked that doesn't he know that Putin is a killer... to which he says... Are we so innocent? We don't do nasty stuff?
An eye for an eye and the world will go blind, says Gandhi.
Let's have a 100 year wars on the sand monkeys and jack that trillion dollar spending to a hundred or two, says the military industrial complex.
there are thousands of people who do fear for their lives not knowing if they will be the next to suffer at the hands of some Islamic terrorist.
From the horses mouth......If you do not believe in the Koran or Sharia law then you are not a Muslim.
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From the horses mouth......If you do not believe in the Koran or Sharia law then you are not a Muslim.
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More Muslims are being killed by Isis than any other group, moderates have just as much to fear as anyone else.
True, but you can't deny that there are unknown number of jihadists in this country who will go and fight in Syria for ISIS and then try to come back here and continue the jihad in Australia.
What should we do about them ?
Stripping their citizenship and not letting them back into the country seems reasonable to me.
And what of the ones who don't try to leave but plot jihad here ? Two have been arrested recently as have a number of others. Imo they should be held indefinitely as religious indoctrination is a mental illness and they should have to prove that they have been cured before they get out of gaol.
You know I think religions are silly, and believe moving to a more secular society is the way to go, but I don't believe taking rights away from one religious group helps at all, I fact it makes it worse.
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