Islam: Is it inherently Evil?

[noco]

Bit like Melbourne these days

5 or 6 years I posted on this forum on how Muslims were infiltrating the Western world with their aim of World domination.

I was reprimanded by the moderators......Look at what has happened now.

 

[luutzu]

This will be us in a generation after we have given up all our traditions and embraced "all people are equal" stupidity.

Off your meds again McGee?
Or just bored?

 

[luutzu]

5 or 6 years I posted on this forum on how Muslims were infiltrating the Western world with their aim of World domination.

I was reprimanded by the moderators......Look at what has happened now.

Seeing how England is a tiny island where the English used to only picks on the Scots and the Irish... to now being all over the place with English being somewhat of an international language - I'd say some nation and culture are more effective at world domination than others.

Sure we can't blame or credit all the English speaking people's "achievements" to the original English people, but it's to show that, you know, blaming some race or religion for world conquest when... ahem.

Anyway, again, not excusing warmongers, terrorists and empire builders. But we gotta ask serious questions and put things in perspectives a bit. Blaming an entire people and race, and especially blaming the crimes and evil of a few on other innocent, and desperate, people. Not cool.

I mean, fair enough to ask that our politicians be tough on refugees and them moochers. But also worth asking is why the heck there are so many refugees in the first place. Why are there some 60million+ refugees.

Did our alliance of the willing had anything to do with it? Should we keep doing it? If we must endlessly do all the good work to liberate them from evil dictators, why in the heck are we OK with not liberating the few that managed to escape from dictators and warzones.

Good questions I reckon.

Then there are questions like... why the heck are we turning against poor and desperate people seeking refuge. Have we always been heartless a holes all our lives, or have we been reading too many bs from media personalities, psychopathic politicians and generally war mongering sociopaths.

Are corporations and the uber rich screwing us out of money, making us desperate economically and feeding us bs intellectually that we're so insecure we're starting to hate those running from warzones.

 

[noco]

5 or 6 years I posted on this forum on how Muslims were infiltrating the Western world with their aim of World domination.

I was reprimanded by the moderators......Look at what has happened now.

Be alarmed...very alarmed as to what is really going on in the Islamic world.

I will probably cop plenty of stick from those who believe Islam is a peaceful loving religion and that there only a few radicals wanting to cause all the trouble...Those radicals are the Islamic army and the number around the world may shock everyone.

20 years from now, I will be in Heaven -This was written by a woman born in Egypt as a Muslim.. Make sure you read the paragraph (in red) toward the end.

Joys of Muslim Women
By Nonie Darwish

In the Muslim faith a Muslim man can marry a child as young as 1 year old and have sexual intimacy with this child. Consummating the marriage by 9.
The dowry is given to the family in exchange for the woman (who becomes his slave) and for the purchase of the private parts of the woman, to use her as a toy.

Even though a woman is abused she can not obtain a divorce..To prove rape, the woman must have (4) male witnesses.
Often after a woman has been raped, she is returned to her family and the family must return the dowry. The family has the right to execute her (an honor killing) to restore the honor of the family. Husbands can beat their wives 'at will' and he does not have to say why he has beaten her.

The husband is permitted to have (4 wives) and a temporary wife for an hour (prostitute) at his discretion.

The Shariah Muslim law controls the private as well as the public life of the woman.

In the Western World ( Canada , Australia , United States and Britain ) Muslim men are starting to demand Shariah Law so the wife can not obtain a divorce and he can have full and complete control of her. It is amazing and alarming how many of our sisters and daughters attending American, Canadian, Universities and British Universities are now marrying Muslim men and s_ubmitting themselves and their children unsuspectingly to the Shariah law.

By passing this on, enlightened Canadian, Australians, American and British women may avoid becoming a slave under Shariah Law.
Ripping the West in Two.
Author and lecturer Nonie Darwish says the goal of radical Islamists is to impose Shariah law on the world, ripping Western law and liberty in two.

She recently authored the book, Cruel and Usual Punishment: The Terrifying Global Implications of Islamic Law. Darwish was born in Cairo and spent her childhood in Egypt and Gaza before immigrating to America in 1978, when she was eight years old. Her father died while leading covert attacks on Israel . He was a high-ranking Egyptian military officer stationed with his family in Gaza .......

When he died, he was considered a "shahid," a martyr for jihad. His posthumous status earned Nonie and her family an elevated position in Muslim society..

But Darwish developed a skeptical eye at an early age. She questioned her own Muslim culture and upbringing.. She converted to Christianity after hearing a Christian preacher on television.
In her latest book, Darwish warns about creeping shariah law - what it is, what it means, and how it is manifested in Islamic countries.

For the West, she says radical Islamists are working to impose sharia on the world. If that happens, Western civilization will be destroyed. Westerners generally assume all religions encourage a respect for the dignity of each individual.. Islamic law (Sharia) teaches that non-Muslims should be subjugated or killed in this world.

Peace and prosperity for one's children is not as important as assuring that Islamic law rules everywhere in the Middle East and eventually in the world.

While Westerners tend to think that all religions encourage some form of the golden rule, Shariah teaches two systems of ethics - one for Muslims and another for non-Muslims. Building on tribal practices of the seventh century, Shariah encourages the side of humanity that wants to take from and subjugate others..

While Westerners tend to think in terms of religious people developing a personal understanding of and relationship with God, Shariah advocates executing people who ask difficult questions that could be interpreted as criticism

It's hard to imagine, that in this day and age, Islamic scholars agree that those who criticize Islam or choose to stop being Muslim should be executed. Sadly, while talk of an Islamic reformation is common and even assumed by many in the West, such murmurings in the Middle East are silenced through intimidation

While Westerners are accustomed to an increase in religious tolerance over time, Darwish explains how petro dollars are being used to grow an extremely intolerant form of political Islam in her native Egypt and elsewhere.

(In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in Canada , Australia , the U.S. And Britain To elect the heads of Government by themselves! Rest assured they will do so... You can look at how they have almost taken over several towns in the USA .. Dearborn Mich. is one and there are others.... Britain has several cities now with Sharia Law controlled zones, totally controlled by Muslims)

I think everyone in Canada , Australia , the U.S. And Great Britain should be required to read this, but with the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us sends it on!
It is too bad that so many are disillusioned with life and Christianity to accept Muslims as peaceful.. Some may be but they have an army that is willing to shed blood in the name of Islam.. The peaceful support the warriors with their finances and own kind of patriotism to their religion.While Canada, Australia, the U.S.A. and Britain are getting rid of Christianity from all public sites and erasing God from the lives of children the Muslims are planning a great jihad on North America, Australia and Britain .........

This is your chance to make a difference...! Pass it on to your email list or at least those you think will listen..
Some of those I'm sending it to WILL NOT!

Put your head back under the covers AND DO NOTHING!

 

[luutzu]

Be alarmed...very alarmed as to what is really going on in the Islamic world.

I will probably cop plenty of stick from those who believe Islam is a peaceful loving religion and that there only a few radicals wanting to cause all the trouble...Those radicals are the Islamic army and the number around the world may shock everyone.

20 years from now, I will be in Heaven -This was written by a woman born in Egypt as a Muslim.. Make sure you read the paragraph (in red) toward the end.

Joys of Muslim Women
By Nonie Darwish

In the Muslim faith a Muslim man can marry a child as young as 1 year old and have sexual intimacy with this child. Consummating the marriage by 9.
The dowry is given to the family in exchange for the woman (who becomes his slave) and for the purchase of the private parts of the woman, to use her as a toy.

Even though a woman is abused she can not obtain a divorce..To prove rape, the woman must have (4) male witnesses.
Often after a woman has been raped, she is returned to her family and the family must return the dowry. The family has the right to execute her (an honor killing) to restore the honor of the family. Husbands can beat their wives 'at will' and he does not have to say why he has beaten her.

The husband is permitted to have (4 wives) and a temporary wife for an hour (prostitute) at his discretion.

The Shariah Muslim law controls the private as well as the public life of the woman.

In the Western World ( Canada , Australia , United States and Britain ) Muslim men are starting to demand Shariah Law so the wife can not obtain a divorce and he can have full and complete control of her. It is amazing and alarming how many of our sisters and daughters attending American, Canadian, Universities and British Universities are now marrying Muslim men and s_ubmitting themselves and their children unsuspectingly to the Shariah law.

By passing this on, enlightened Canadian, Australians, American and British women may avoid becoming a slave under Shariah Law.
Ripping the West in Two.
Author and lecturer Nonie Darwish says the goal of radical Islamists is to impose Shariah law on the world, ripping Western law and liberty in two.

She recently authored the book, Cruel and Usual Punishment: The Terrifying Global Implications of Islamic Law. Darwish was born in Cairo and spent her childhood in Egypt and Gaza before immigrating to America in 1978, when she was eight years old. Her father died while leading covert attacks on Israel . He was a high-ranking Egyptian military officer stationed with his family in Gaza .......

When he died, he was considered a "shahid," a martyr for jihad. His posthumous status earned Nonie and her family an elevated position in Muslim society..

But Darwish developed a skeptical eye at an early age. She questioned her own Muslim culture and upbringing.. She converted to Christianity after hearing a Christian preacher on television.
In her latest book, Darwish warns about creeping shariah law - what it is, what it means, and how it is manifested in Islamic countries.

For the West, she says radical Islamists are working to impose sharia on the world. If that happens, Western civilization will be destroyed. Westerners generally assume all religions encourage a respect for the dignity of each individual.. Islamic law (Sharia) teaches that non-Muslims should be subjugated or killed in this world.

Peace and prosperity for one's children is not as important as assuring that Islamic law rules everywhere in the Middle East and eventually in the world.

While Westerners tend to think that all religions encourage some form of the golden rule, Shariah teaches two systems of ethics - one for Muslims and another for non-Muslims. Building on tribal practices of the seventh century, Shariah encourages the side of humanity that wants to take from and subjugate others..

While Westerners tend to think in terms of religious people developing a personal understanding of and relationship with God, Shariah advocates executing people who ask difficult questions that could be interpreted as criticism

It's hard to imagine, that in this day and age, Islamic scholars agree that those who criticize Islam or choose to stop being Muslim should be executed. Sadly, while talk of an Islamic reformation is common and even assumed by many in the West, such murmurings in the Middle East are silenced through intimidation

While Westerners are accustomed to an increase in religious tolerance over time, Darwish explains how petro dollars are being used to grow an extremely intolerant form of political Islam in her native Egypt and elsewhere.

(In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in Canada , Australia , the U.S. And Britain To elect the heads of Government by themselves! Rest assured they will do so... You can look at how they have almost taken over several towns in the USA .. Dearborn Mich. is one and there are others.... Britain has several cities now with Sharia Law controlled zones, totally controlled by Muslims)

I think everyone in Canada , Australia , the U.S. And Great Britain should be required to read this, but with the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us sends it on!
It is too bad that so many are disillusioned with life and Christianity to accept Muslims as peaceful.. Some may be but they have an army that is willing to shed blood in the name of Islam.. The peaceful support the warriors with their finances and own kind of patriotism to their religion.While Canada, Australia, the U.S.A. and Britain are getting rid of Christianity from all public sites and erasing God from the lives of children the Muslims are planning a great jihad on North America, Australia and Britain .........

This is your chance to make a difference...! Pass it on to your email list or at least those you think will listen..
Some of those I'm sending it to WILL NOT!

Put your head back under the covers AND DO NOTHING!

Don't think we're doing nothing noco.

We're all over the place there, liberating and freeing them from savagery; showing them that they ought to live in a free and tolerant country like those of the Christians... then when a few of them managed to cross the seas, walk to the great liberator's border seeking refuge and a taste of freedom and liberty... we tell them to get stuffed.

Good value we got.

 

[noco]

Don't think we're doing nothing noco.

We're all over the place there, liberating and freeing them from savagery; showing them that they ought to live in a free and tolerant country like those of the Christians... then when a few of them managed to cross the seas, walk to the great liberator's border seeking refuge and a taste of freedom and liberty... we tell them to get stuffed.

Good value we got.

Most of them are economic refugees but those who are genuine are taken into our country in good faith but they are not prepared to live by our rules and our way of life......If a man in Australia was to married 3 different women he would be charged with bigamy so how do these Muslim men get away with it here in Australia?

They leave Islamic countries because of the harsh treatment they receive under Islam law but when they settle here they still want live under Islamic rules.....It does not make sense......Is it any wonder that 49% of Australians do not want any more Muslims in our country for various reasons.

 

[luutzu]

Most of them are economic refugees but those who are genuine are taken into our country in good faith but they are not prepared to live by our rules and our way of life......If a man in Australia was to married 3 different women he would be charged with bigamy so how do these Muslim men get away with it here in Australia?

They leave Islamic countries because of the harsh treatment they receive under Islam law but when they settle here they still want live under Islamic rules.....It does not make sense......Is it any wonder that 49% of Australians do not want any more Muslims in our country for various reasons.

It doesn't make sense for people who's running away from Islamic Laws to then want to live under those same harsh Islamic Laws. They might still attend Mosques and pray to their Allah, but they don't do the crazies that we're all told by our trusted media and "journalist".

Maybe they're running away from those crazies who say that whatever crazies they're doing is "Islamic"... a bit like those crazy Christians burning "witches" and "curing" the sick by whipping them or whatever - all because "God" said that that's how he likes it.


How much sense does it sound for a noble and generous empire to assemble its alliance, flew thousands of miles away, spent billions of dollars a day - all just to liberate and free all of the people of the ME - but then take practically none of them who managed to get out of those warzones.

Let say a house is oppressed and under literal fire. Would the firemen and the rescue team push the occupants back once they managed to run out of the burning building?

If I'm those who turn my back on refugees, watch them drown as they cross the seas, watch them walk those miles then with any little excuse, turn on them like they're dogs... I wouldn't be so quick to praise my own cultural superiority and high moral value.


I guess the most horrifying thing about these images is the Burqa. Not that our great master refuel, sells arms, permit and help blockade Yemin - causing death and famine.

 

[Tisme]

It doesn't make sense for people who's running away from Islamic Laws to then want to live under those same harsh Islamic Laws. They might still attend Mosques and pray to their Allah, but they don't do the crazies that we're all told by our trusted media and "journalist".

I think there is plenty of proof that ISIS intended to cause mass migration as the progenitor invasion for a future Islamic world.

This wave might well seek refuge, but the next and next generations will be less thankful and more demanding of obedience to man made hysteria masquerading as a spiritual light. Unlike us, their culture is inextricably interwoven with a set of rules from a barbarian era, with no excuses for non compliance.

 

[luutzu]

I think there is plenty of proof that ISIS intended to cause mass migration as the progenitor invasion for a future Islamic world.

This wave might well seek refuge, but the next and next generations will be less thankful and more demanding of obedience to man made hysteria masquerading as a spiritual light. Unlike us, their culture is inextricably interwoven with a set of rules from a barbarian era, with no excuses for non compliance.

You worry too much McGill.

If the first wave of migrants and refugees don't intend, or have no arms, to clean house, later generations will just adapt to the existing ways of beggaring the poor and giving it away to the rich. You know, peaceful wars of plunder.

On the SMH today, reports showed that some 870,000 Australian children are living in poverty. Their single parent or parents can't afford a house, living from pay cheque to pay cheque, or be on Centrelink because there's little jobs out there... all the while our great Senate and pollies are debating how much tax cut to give to the already rich and corporations they already own; that and how many poorer countries to liberate.

 

[Tisme]

You worry too much McGill.

If the first wave of migrants and refugees don't intend, or have no arms, to clean house, later generations will just adapt to the existing ways of beggaring the poor and giving it away to the rich.

Unfortunately that might be true for some, but we already have the insurgency of Islam here with second gens obedient to the cause.

 

[explod]

Unfortunately that might be true for some, but we already have the insurgency of Islam here with second gens obedient to the cause.

Not sure its nearly the issue that's pumped up.

A lot of propaganda out there to hide issues of substance in my view.

Like the Prime Minister laying wreaths.

 

[Tisme]

Not sure its nearly the issue that's pumped up.

A lot of propaganda out there to hide issues of substance in my view.

Like the Prime Minister laying wreaths.

I don't know either, but I do recall that interview with the youth at Lakemba a few years back, the blokes who repeatedly raped that girl with the blessing of their father, and then we have two youths ready to cut someone's head off last week.

 

[Tisme]

Don't think we're doing nothing noco.

We're all over the place there, liberating and freeing them from savagery; showing them that they ought to live in a free and tolerant country like those of the Christians... then when a few of them managed to cross the seas, walk to the great liberator's border seeking refuge and a taste of freedom and liberty... we tell them to get stuffed.

Good value we got.

A kind of perverted view of how to solve the problem: Steven is us (the good guys) and the poor sod is the bad guys.

 

[luutzu]

A kind of perverted view of how to solve the problem: Steven is us (the good guys) and the poor sod is the bad guys.

Whatever it is we're doing in the ME, it's not problem solving.

Even if we're to put our re'al politik, imperialist, sausaging-making hat on in analysing it - I just don't see the benefit.

 

[CanOz]

Perhaps the name of the thread should be "Is all Islam Inherently Evil?"

 

[luutzu]

Unfortunately that might be true for some, but we already have the insurgency of Islam here with second gens obedient to the cause.

Yea I know. Running for political office and taking bribes like a pro, or some Irish. And running corporations, sometime taking people's lifesavings like their partners at Anchorage capital.

 

[Tisme]

Interesting position

 

[luutzu]

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Interesting position

I guess they've learnt to not demand for crazy stuff like "leave my oil alone"; "can you guys tell Israel to only take the best half of Palestine and leave the other half for us to at least move around a bit in"...

 

[macca]

I guess they've learnt to not demand for crazy stuff like "leave my oil alone"; "can you guys tell Israel to only take the best half of Palestine and leave the other half for us to at least move around a bit in"...

They don't need half of Israel anymore, they have all moved to Europe haven't they ?

 

[luutzu]

They don't need half of Israel anymore, they have all moved to Europe haven't they ?

Only ISIS and Al Qaeda "migrate" to Europe, the Palestinians are blockaded and imprisoned.