Islam: Is it inherently Evil?

[noco]

Technological change is taking away a lot of the jobs that migrants used to do. No more TCF with people sewing away , no more car industry with people putting nuts on bolts, greatly reduced demand for farm workers apart from seasonal pickers, so where are the jobs coming from ? They are going to China and India, so no need for migration except for niche skills that we don't produce or are too expensive here.

Don't worry Rumpy......Malcolm has got it all under control......Growth up 3.2%....unemployment down to 5.7% and a lot lower to where it was under Labor.

Can't afford to pay semi skilled labour $80,000 per year to do nuttin...Car industry gone thanks to the unions.

Get rid of the Greens so we can open up Adami coal mine and a new rail line to the coast plus lots of other projects delayed .....Plenty of jobs available....The Queensland state government just cancelled an $800,000 project in Brisbane to appease their Green coalition friends......Queensland is going backward under Labor.

Oh and BTW, I forgot to mention the $80 billion debt we have in Queensland thanks to Beattie and Bligh......Instead of selling some assets, Labor would prefer to continue paying a huge interest bill....Not very smart IMHO...But then again we all know the past history of Labor's economic management.

Sorry to be bit off topic.

 

[Ves]

Don't worry Rumpy......Malcolm has got it all under control......Growth up 3.2%....unemployment down to 5.7% and a lot lower to where it was under Labor.

The bolded bit is factually incorrect. It's currently higher than at ANY time than it was under the ALP. Go check the figures.

 

[noco]

The bolded bit is factually incorrect. It's currently higher than at ANY time than it was under the ALP. Go check the figures.

They are not my figures pal...It has been all over the news lately.

 

[Ves]

They are not my figures pal...It has been all over the news lately.

Well apparently the figures in the news you have been reading are rubbish.

Why wouldn't you check them against the official source (ABS) given that that is where the current 5.7% comes from?

 

[SirRumpole]

We all know that the stats are rubbish anyway. Work one hour a week and you are considered employed. The rate of 'underemployment' (< 35 hours per week) could be 30% for all we know.

 

[noco]

Well apparently the figures in the news you have been reading are rubbish.

Why wouldn't you check them against the official source (ABS) given that that is where the current 5.7% comes from?

Actually the ABS figures shows a further decline down to 5.6% in August.

Typical Leftie comment.....when you don't like something that favors the government you have no other answer than to call it "RUBBISH".

:shake:


http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/mf/6202.0

 

[noco]

We all know that the stats are rubbish anyway. Work one hour a week and you are considered employed. The rate of 'underemployment' (< 35 hours per week) could be 30% for all we know.

I am sure if Labor were in government they would welcome those figures with bells ringing from their propaganda machine the ABC.

Off topic.

 

[SirRumpole]

I am sure if Labor were in government they would welcome those figures with bells ringing from their propaganda machine the ABC.

That doesn't make the data any more correct or relevant.

 

[SirRumpole]

Man armed with scissors drags woman from vehicle in Melbourne carjacking

Posted 18 minutes ago
Map: Brighton East 3187

A man has threatened a woman with a pair of scissors during a carjacking in Melbourne's south.

The woman was sitting in her parked car on Mavis Avenue near Landcox Park at Brighton East when she was confronted by the man just after 1:30pm on Wednesday.

He opened the car door and demanded the woman get out.

Police said the woman grabbed hold of the scissors but the offender dragged her out of the car.

The victim ran to a nearby cafe for help and the man drove off in the car towards Milroy Street and the Nepean Highway.

Police described the man as being of African appearance and about 185 centimetres tall.

He was wearing tracksuit pants, a blue top with black print, light-coloured runners and a cap.

The woman's car, a silver 2007 Toyota Camry sedan, had the registration UYZ 360.

Anyone with information has been urged to contact Crime Stoppers.

A lot more cases like this are being reported. Maybe Pauline's next statement is "we are being swamped by Africans".

 

[Ves]

Actually the ABS figures shows a further decline down to 5.6% in August.

Typical Leftie comment.....when you don't like something that favors the government you have no other answer than to call it "RUBBISH".

:shake:


http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/mf/6202.0

You said:

unemployment down to 5.7% and a lot lower to where it was under Labor.

I called it 'rubbish' because it is. It's not a lot lower than where it was under the ALP. That is factually incorrect.

I made no qualitative judgment about the current rate. You're putting words in my mouth again. Seriously just man up and admit you made a mistake.

 

[noco]

You said:



I called it 'rubbish' because it is. It's not a lot lower than where it was under the ALP. That is factually incorrect.

I made no qualitative judgment about the current rate. You're putting words in my mouth again. Seriously just man up and admit you made a mistake.

So when Labor came to power in 2007, unemployment rose from 4 % to 6.2% during their disgraceful 6 years in office and Labor predicted it would go even higher.

So you say it was not lower than it was under Labor....Did you use the same ABS reckoning as used today.

Think you had better go back and do some more research.

This thread is about Islam.

:topic

 

[grah33]

Re: Islam: Is it inherently Evil?


evil is a strong word. a few things that i have wondered about :


child marriage : the age limit is quite low. yet in the western world there is a thing called pedophilia. in other words it's not normal to be attracted to children. i guess islam doesn't agree with that, even though i'm convinced it's a real condition people have. so i think the religion goes against natural reasoning and i feel sorry for the children. also, they are just 2 young for intercourse.

stoning of gays/adulterers/apostates (people who leave the religion): this is perceived a good thing and part of sharia, and i think if there was a muslim majority they might desire this. if you believe in your religion , it's natural to want to have policies based on it. seems to me that in the eyes of the islamic religion slaying 'sinners' is a good thing. for example, by slaying apostates u deter other muslims from leaving, thus strengthening islam in the world, which is good for the world (devout muslims might think so). but i think a religion should teach a person to see human dignity in everybody at all times.

there are instructions in the koran to slay infidels to further islam, while jesus taught "love your enemies" .

also sex slaves from war... should not a religion tell you that once the war is over, you do no harm to the prisoners/slaves.


just some thoughts anyway...

 

[Ves]

So when Labor came to power in 2007, unemployment rose from 4 % to 6.2% during their disgraceful 6 years in office and Labor predicted it would go even higher.

What month was it 6.2% under the ALP?

 

[SirRumpole]

One in two Australians want a ban on Muslim immigration, poll finds

http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/half-of-australia-wants-muslim-ban/7865630

 

[bellenuit]

One in two Australians want a ban on Muslim immigration, poll finds

http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/half-of-australia-wants-muslim-ban/7865630

34 per cent of Greens voters also support a ban

That figure really surprised me. I could understand the 40% Labor, as their constituency is generally working class voters who are in many ways the same constituency that supports Hanson and One Nation. But the Greens are mainly inner city trendies, who would normally have little in common with Hanson's policies, at least when in public discourse.

 

[SirRumpole]

34 per cent of Greens voters also support a ban

That figure really surprised me. I could understand the 40% Labor, as their constituency is generally working class voters who are in many ways the same constituency that supports Hanson and One Nation. But the Greens are mainly inner city trendies, who would normally have little in common with Hanson's policies, at least when in public discourse.

The across the board approval is something that's going to be jumped on by Hanson and has the potential to split the major parties. It will be interesting to see if they take the populist route or keep preaching assimilation and multiculturalism

 

[Tisme]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guXBTgAxhIw

 

[Tisme]

This will be us in a generation after we have given up all our traditions and embraced "all people are equal" stupidity.

 

[Tisme]

Bit like Melbourne these days

 

[Tisme]

Canadian Senate gets schooled about what we all know, but our leaders refuse to hear: