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Whiskers said:
I saw part of an interview with the PNG foreign minister (I think it was)... seemed to be down playing the significance of a 24 hr turnaround and any issues with only short term funding allocated in the Aus budget for the PNG plan, but emphasizing they have an intergovernmental agreement with Aus for a long term, permanent arrangement to support the facility in PNG.

This deal with PNG needs to remain secure at least for the short term, otherwise it will be a devastating blow to the deterrent effect.
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I was referring to Labor.
 
From Larry Pickering...

http://pickeringpost.com/story/indons-in-for-a-shock/2065


INDONS IN FOR A SHOCK

As another boat loaded with 80 illegal immigrants arrives on Christmas Island, Indonesia’s Foreign Minister, Marty Natalegawa, says his country won't accept violations of its borders under Abbott’s plan to turn back boats. He warns the move risks damage to bilateral relations. Really Marty?

It seems that daily Indonesian violations of our borders is quite okay with Marty tho’.

Islamic arrogance has again reared its ugly head in what is approaching a long-overdue showdown with this nation and its corrupt practices.

Interim Opposition Leader Chris Bowen is right for once and, as a former overseer of this boat invasion, he should know when he said today it was an extraordinary circumstance that Natalegawa had released details of private talks with Australia’s Foreign Minister Julie bishop.

Natalegawa is clearly setting the scene for a **** fight as Bishop, Morrison and Abbott are about to invade Jakarta to bump a few heads.

Indonesia is quite happy to see Australia’s sovereign borders breached on a daily basis. Australia is not happy, and if I know Abbott, he is fully prepared to play hardball with this bunch of unscrupulous monkeys.

Indonesian boats are leaving Indonesian ports with Indonesian captains under Indonesian flags ferrying illegal immigrants to Australian shores and Indonesia claims we risk violating their borders? For Christ’s sake!

Prepare for a long overdue showdown.

We gift this corrupt nation $600 million a year in unneeded, unaccounted-for aid, we gift further millions for Islamic schools, we gift materiel and armaments, we assist with their natural disasters and receive nothing but diplomatic treachery in return.

Indonesia is a rich country with a GDP approaching that of China’s. It has the fastest growing rate of millionaires in the world and treats its poor (and Australia) with the contempt of a third world backwater.

Asians despise weakness and we have been seen as a cowering compliant neighbour under the reign of Rudd/Gillard/Rudd. That’s about to change.

Go get ‘em Tony, Australians are right behind you.

Well, those who believe that our sovereignty matters are.
 
dutchie said:
From Larry Pickering...

http://pickeringpost.com/story/indons-in-for-a-shock/2065


INDONS IN FOR A SHOCK

As another boat loaded with 80 illegal immigrants arrives on Christmas Island, Indonesia’s Foreign Minister, Marty Natalegawa, says his country won't accept violations of its borders under Abbott’s plan to turn back boats. He warns the move risks damage to bilateral relations. Really Marty?

It seems that daily Indonesian violations of our borders is quite okay with Marty tho’.

Islamic arrogance has again reared its ugly head in what is approaching a long-overdue showdown with this nation and its corrupt practices.

Interim Opposition Leader Chris Bowen is right for once and, as a former overseer of this boat invasion, he should know when he said today it was an extraordinary circumstance that Natalegawa had released details of private talks with Australia’s Foreign Minister Julie bishop.

Natalegawa is clearly setting the scene for a **** fight as Bishop, Morrison and Abbott are about to invade Jakarta to bump a few heads.

Indonesia is quite happy to see Australia’s sovereign borders breached on a daily basis. Australia is not happy, and if I know Abbott, he is fully prepared to play hardball with this bunch of unscrupulous monkeys.

Indonesian boats are leaving Indonesian ports with Indonesian captains under Indonesian flags ferrying illegal immigrants to Australian shores and Indonesia claims we risk violating their borders? For Christ’s sake!

Prepare for a long overdue showdown.

We gift this corrupt nation $600 million a year in unneeded, unaccounted-for aid, we gift further millions for Islamic schools, we gift materiel and armaments, we assist with their natural disasters and receive nothing but diplomatic treachery in return.

Indonesia is a rich country with a GDP approaching that of China’s. It has the fastest growing rate of millionaires in the world and treats its poor (and Australia) with the contempt of a third world backwater.

Asians despise weakness and we have been seen as a cowering compliant neighbour under the reign of Rudd/Gillard/Rudd. That’s about to change.

Go get ‘em Tony, Australians are right behind you.

Well, those who believe that our sovereignty matters are.
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Sums it up nicely.
 
noco said:
I can't wait to hear what the lefties say about this one.

The Indos and the media have been very slient.



http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/...pt_navy_brings_boat_people_back_to_indonesia/
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Magic, here's 'The Wests' take on it.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/...kers-back-to-indonesian-authorities-off-java/

No, I don't believe it, 50,000 people later, Labor said 'it couldn't be done'.
As Sydboy would say "the sky didn't fall in". lol

50,000 people later. jeez :rolleyes:

One has to wonder what the real agenda was.:D
 
Tony Abbott very measured and diplomatic,

Earlier today, Prime Minister Tony Abbott described tensions between the two countries over the Coalition's border protection policy as a "passing irritant".

"The last thing I would ever want to do is anything that doesn't show the fullest possible respect for Indonesia's sovereignty," he said.

"We are already at this very moment cooperating closely with the Indonesians... I don't believe that the incoming government will do anything that will put that cooperation at risk. We want to build on that."
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The Indonesian government should have realised that if a gnome can't out stare Julie Bishop, they've got no chance.

But today Indonesia's foreign ministry issued a "correction", saying the information in the briefing note was not intended for the media, that the meeting was private, and there was no official press release.
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It's good to see adults back in charge. :D

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-27/navy-transfers-asylum-seekers-to-indonesia/4985674
 
The tragic consequences of the Labor/Green legacy roll on,

AT least 20 people, mostly children, have drowned and many are missing after an Australia-bound boat carrying Middle Eastern asylum-seekers sank off Indonesia, police said tonight.

"Local people found 20 dead bodies floating in the water, most of them are children," said Warsono, a police official in Cianjur district of West Java province on Indonesia's main island of Java.

The official added that the boat was believed to have been carrying 120 people, and that 25 adults had so far been rescued alive..
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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...-mostly-children/story-e6frg6nf-1226728869603
 
A second group of asylum seekers rescued by Australian authorities have been handed back to Indonesia.

Meanwhile, Australian authorities are attempting to return a second group of asylum seekers to Indonesia after rescuing them at sea.

The Australian Customs ship, ACV Triton, has been given permission to enter Indonesian waters to offload 31 asylum seekers rescued overnight.

It will be the second time since yesterday that Australian rescue authorities have returned asylum seekers to Indonesia.

The Australian Maritime Safety Authority (AMSA) told its Indonesian equivalent Basarnas the "preference is for a transfer at sea" to Indonesian authorities.
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-27/asylum-seekers-drown-as-boat-capsizes-off-java/4986422
 
noco said:
More blood on Rudd's hands....more loss of life at sea due his stupity.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...at-talks-urgency/story-fn9hm1gu-1226728914752
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Not to mention the stupidity of the illegals getting on these boats. I would call it reckless endangerment of their families.

One of the passengers, a Lebanese man, had reportedly lost his pregnant wife and eight children in the disaster.
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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...rs-still-missing/story-fn3dxix6-1226728948079
 
This has become a major problem for the Indonesians and they are doing their best to past on their problems to Australia.

They are even using army vehicles to transport these illegals to people smugglers for a dangerous journey to Australia. This was confessed by one of the refugees.

The boat that flipped over was only 50 metres from the shores of Java.

How can these wankers blame Abbott for this disaster?

It is absolute joke.



http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/...ving_a_boat_now_lying_on_an_indonesian_beach/
 
NOCO when you start using Andrew Bolt as a reference for a story your in quick sand.

Just for interest if you go back to a previous reference in The Australian you get a quite different picture.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...rs-still-missing/story-fn3dxix6-1226728948079

Obviously we don't have a full picture of what has happened (and I guess we wont get it under Abbott) but Bolt deals in deceit and half truths.
 
[Crew member Azam has told ABC News that he was tricked into skippering the boat to Australia.

"I was offered work in a tourist boat by a man called Adi. He recruited me in Lombok and and flew me to Jakarta airport," he said.

"Then I was taken to an unknown beach with a car and met these passengers and the boat."

He said there was nothing wrong with the boat when the Australian Navy "intercepted" it, and the engine was working.

It appears the asylum seekers called the Australian Maritime Safety Authority, hoping to get rescued and taken to Australia.

It’s a pretty safe bet that this sort of thing has been going on all through the Rudd and Gillard years, and they were too damn stupid to realize it. The asylum seekers, the people smugglers, the Indonesian army and police, and the Indonesian government played Rudd and Gillard for the fools they were.
No wonder the Indos are jumping up and down with indignation now that Abbot has foiled their plans.
 
basilio said:
Obviously we don't have a full picture of what has happened (and I guess we wont get it under Abbott) but Bolt deals in deceit and half truths.
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And so do you. Not even you, with your imaginative spin can claim that we are responsible for tragedies that occur in other countries. Perhaps we should apologise for making Australia an attractive destination for illegal economic "refugees".

I suppose that your fertile imagination can even make a link that our carbon emissions policies are responsible for the deaths of 130 Mexicans in last weeks floods.
 
I will play the devil's advocate.-Why should Indonesia be a buffer for Australia's problems?These refugees want to head to Australia-the land of milk and honey.I dare say Indonesia take care of many more refugees than Australia.
I wonder whether they think that Australia is responsible for much of their own refugee problems,with our soldiers killing Muslims in Afghanistan and Iraq.If,as they say,all Muslims are brothers then they wouldn't have much sympathy with Australia's plight.A country which claims to have the high moral ground.
We always try to second guess what others are up to.I may be off the mark but this is to add to the discussion.
 

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