Asylum immigrants - Green Light

[sptrawler]

The flow of boats may well have stopped altogether due to the PNG agreement, but the Abbott government could not take the risk that this would happen and prove Rudd correct, so they had to go on their own gung ho crusade and make sure they took the credit.

Rudd caused the fiasco, and made a desperate last minute vote saving gesture.
It looked as well thought out as all his other initiatives, an absolute joke.

 

[startrader]

The flow of boats may well have stopped altogether due to the PNG agreement, but the Abbott government could not take the risk that this would happen and prove Rudd correct, so they had to go on their own gung ho crusade and make sure they took the credit.

That is one of the most delusional and ridiculous statements I have ever seen in my life!

 

[rumpole]

That is one of the most delusional and ridiculous statements I have ever seen in my life!

If you honestly ask yourself why a government would engage in risky and expensive naval operations instead of waiting to see the full effect of the PNG solution which was working, then my comment makes perfect sense.

 

[noco]

If you honestly ask yourself why a government would engage in risky and expensive naval operations instead of waiting to see the full effect of the PNG solution which was working, then my comment makes perfect sense.

ROFL...

 

[rumpole]

ROFL...

A brilliant, well considered response backed up with logical argument.

I'm convinced... that I'm right.

 

[AAA]

If you honestly ask yourself why a government would engage in risky and expensive naval operations instead of waiting to see the full effect of the PNG solution which was working, then my comment makes perfect sense.

The problem we have is both Manus Is and Naru are near or at capacity. Every additional boat that arrived put pressure on the whole off shore processing system. Turning back boats was not part of Rudd's plan. Under Rudd's plan we wouldn't turned back the ones that OSB has. These arrivals would be adding pressure to the whole system.
The off shore processing system would have a tipping point. If it reached a point where there wasn't room to hold anymore off shore the flood gates could open again.

As far as it being a dangerous and expensive naval operation I imagine similar dangers would present when rescuing asylum seekers from the water after their boats sink. As far as being expensive apparently using life boats to turn away asylum seekers is a lot cheaper than processing their asylum application.

 

[overhang]

Quite a well written letter from a humanitarian perspective that I think we should all read
http://speakupforthose.wordpress.co...nister-for-immigration-and-border-protection/

Why do we continue to call these people illegals?

I support the tough stance but why must this process take so long? It upsets those that seek asylum and costs us a fortune.

 

[noco]

Quite a well written letter from a humanitarian perspective that I think we should all read
http://speakupforthose.wordpress.co...nister-for-immigration-and-border-protection/

Why do we continue to call these people illegals?

I support the tough stance but why must this process take so long? It upsets those that seek asylum and costs us a fortune.

It is because they all threw there ID's over board to prevent the authorities from checking their back ground....that it is why it takes so long.......serves them right IMHO. I have no sympathy for them as most of them are economic refugees.

 

[Bintang]

Why do we continue to call these people illegals?

Why do we call a spade a spade? Because it IS a spade.

 

[trainspotter]

If you honestly ask yourself why a government would engage in risky and expensive naval operations instead of waiting to see the full effect of the PNG solution which was working, then my comment makes perfect sense.

It is pointless to resist, my son.

 

[noco]

I traveled to PNG 2 and 3 times per year for 18 years.......nothing has changed since my last trip in 1993......there is no way in the world that asylum seekers would have ever survived had they migrated to PNG and Kevin Rudd would have been very well aware of the conditions in that country when mooted the idea.

One always followed the 3 golden rules in PNG.
Never venture out at night.
Never go into isolated areas by yourself.
Always exercise vigilance everywhere one went during the day.

There is no doubt this deterrent has encouraged 10 to 15 asylum seekers to voluntarily return to their native countries each week.Let us hope that weekly figure increases in the weeks to come resulting in less cost to the tax payers of Australia and less worry to the Immigration authorities.


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...-of-png-violence/story-fnihslxi-1226848264933

 

[drsmith]

No boats now for 12 weeks.

In that time, only 2 IMA's have been accepted on medical grounds.

 

[sptrawler]

No boats now for 12 weeks.

In that time, only 2 IMA's have been accepted on medical grounds.

Well that must be saving us money, that we can spend on carbon abatement. Basillio must be on board.

 

[noco]

No boats now for 12 weeks.

In that time, only 2 IMA's have been accepted on medical grounds.

And the Labor Party said it could not be done.

One thing the Labor Party has done is to have left us in an economic mess....But of course history will show, Labor in the Federal and all the state governments have always been lousy economic managers.



http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/...s/something_youd_have_never_read_under_labor/

 

[drsmith]

6 boat arrivals on Xmas Island.

These ones though are legal.

http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/201...ith-a-report-of-6-boat-arrivals.html#comments

 

[drsmith]

3-months (90 days) without a successful people smuggling operation by boat.

 

[sptrawler]

3-months (90 days) without a successful people smuggling operation by boat.

So it really wasn't that hard, shame Labor couldn't stop sucking up to everyone.

Labor just proves the old saying,"if you run round and round, in ever decreasing circles, you eventually disappear".

They appear to be gathering speed at the moment.

 

[noco]

3-months (90 days) without a successful people smuggling operation by boat.

Geez Doc, for a moment when I saw that image of the vintage bottle I thought it was Kevin Rudd's sauce bottle....the sauce bottle he used to shake.

 

[drsmith]

Geez Doc, for a moment when I saw that image of the vintage bottle I thought it was Kevin Rudd's sauce bottle....the sauce bottle he used to shake.

Poor Kev always made a mess whatever he shook.

Editorial piece in yesterday's Australian on the influence of the ABC's coverage of this issue,

THE ABC ought to be congratulated for shining a light on the Abbott government’s rigorous and successful effort to stop the people-smuggling trade into Australia. Sadly, perhaps predictably, the national broadcaster viewed matters from a different perspective, using its exclusive inside look at the boat turn-back operations to air criticisms. But by interviewing asylum-seekers from a thwarted people-smuggling venture and broadcasting vision filmed on the journey, the ABC’s 7.30 has added to our knowledge about Operation Sovereign Borders. While the ABC continues to focus on complaints of rough handling by the asylum-seekers and questions from the UN about the policy, what viewers saw was a unique insight into the difficult, dangerous and important work of our navy and Customs personnel, and the tactics and motivations of asylum-seekers.

The key protagonist was Arash Sedigh, an Iranian trying to emigrate with his wife, Azi. Mr Sedigh claimed he had applied to come to Australia under the skilled migration program and been rejected. Only then did he seek entry as a refugee. “We decided to go the illegal way,” he said, “to make them accept us.” Mr Sedigh mentioned religious persecution but stressed the “many job opportunities” in Australia where he could “make a wonderful life for my family”. We all understand those ambitions ”” hundreds of millions of people around the world would love to make a life for their families in our country ”” but this does not sound like a convincing case to be accepted as a refugee. Especially given camps in places such as Sudan, Pakistan, Jordan and Somalia are brim full with millions of legitimate refugees hoping for resettlement in countries such as Australia. Every economic migrant who manages to get to our continent by boat and pass themselves off as a refugee takes the place of a person in the camps. Mr Sedigh had tried to come by boat once before the journey filmed in late January and early February. He has now decided not to try again. The policy is tough but even the ABC concedes it is working.

Having been thwarted, Mr Sedigh and a fellow traveller could be forgiven for spitting “F..k Australia” at the camera but the comments about 9/11 were less forgivable. Saying those terrorist attacks were caused by “your very deeds”, he offered what sounded horribly like a threat: “Remember 9/11 for United States, all the world should know why.” This ugly venting only served to highlight the importance of border security and the need to ensure it is not subverted by boat arrivals.

As for the methods, the footage aired on the ABC showed how the asylum-seekers had been placed into one of the special-purpose lifeboats and towed close to Indonesia before being told to make their own way to shore. It appeared uncomfortable but it was much more safe and secure than their initial risky voyage on a small wooden boat. As critics bemoan the vision of the rejected asylum-seekers towed in their cramped vessel, we are tempted to think of other images. There is the horrific vision of the people-smuggling boat being dashed against the rocks of Christmas Island in December 2010 when 48 of the 90 people on board were killed. With more than 1100 asylum-seekers killed over the past five years these are the tragic events the current operations are aimed at preventing. Also we think of images from those refugee camps in North Africa or the Middle East where millions of refugees in dire need cling to the hope they might be resettled in a country such as Australia. They don’t have the opportunity to apply for skilled migration or pay thousands of dollars for a people-smuggler’s fare into Australia.

On the ABC’s reports we also heard the asylum-seekers admitting they had threatened the lives of the navy and Customs personnel who first rescued them, then kept them safe and turned them back. This highlighted not any overreach by our servicemen and women but rather the extreme difficulty of their task and the obvious professionalism they have displayed. Given 90 days have now passed since a boat successfully made it to Australia, it is a job that has been done well so far.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opi...-boat-operations/story-e6frg71x-1226858460819

 

[noco]

Poor Kev always made a mess whatever he shook.

Editorial piece in yesterday's Australian on the influence of the ABC's coverage of this issue,



http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opi...-boat-operations/story-e6frg71x-1226858460819

Threats made to naval and customs personal .........F*** Australia......threats of another 9/11 in Australia...

OMG and to think we have another 50,000 like these goons roaming around Australia today.


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...a-thousand-words/story-fnj45fvb-1226859493550