Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists
To say that there is a choice between money and freedom is unreasonably simplistic.
Well right, I didn't actually say that. I said I was surprised posters premised a free society on a healthy economy, not the other way around.
Can you really envisage a successful society under the Greens where to be sure homosexuals may marry, drug users will receive whatever they want on the PBS, every last spotty toed flea in the environment will be protected, along with all the gazillions of fruit bats etc etc, all the coal fired power stations will be closed down leaving us in the dark with a cooking fire in the back yard. Motor vehicles will be banned unless solar powered, and bikes plus helmets will be free to every person. Whacko! What a utopia that would be!
Patronising, nonsensical, rubbish.
Are you serious? You don't believe governments affect the health of economies?
Stop misquoting me. I said governments can't control economies. Of course they can affect the health of an economy. But even central banks don't control economies. Electing a government based on the premise they are "better economic managers" completely ignores the reality of the situation we are in. Certainly it is obvious those "better economic managers" did not see the financial crisis coming, in fact if anything their policies exacerbated the problem. So what credentials are you actually trying to convince me to vote for?
Well, without wanting to be disrespectful to you, sinner, you may be the one squirming in your seat when the Greens do get the balance of power. You may not be quite so gung ho about it then.
Maybe. Or while we are throwing around patronising random hypotheticals, maybe you will be pleasantly surprised by a Greens government
Exactly.
Allowing this to be repeated in the hope of a clear answer on it from sinner and prawn.
Have said it before, will say it again. We need to put a price on impact of industry on our environment. Regardless of global warming. Regardless whether bigger polluters do it or not. Because sooner or later we will pay that cost anyway, voluntarily or not. The only difference is we currently have a chance to use Australian ingenuity and innovativeness to come up with a real solution before it all comes back to bite us on the **** and people are crying "o no nobody could have seen this coming".
I do not support a 66.5% tax on resource profits, but then again I don't support the huge subsidies which resource industry currently receives from the government at taxpayer expense and goes mostly into shareholder pockets and I don't support the huge influence resource industry lobbying currently has on our government+media.
I have a great concern about the number of people who seem to be planning to vote Greens just as protest vote against the two main parties, without giving any serious thought to the potential ramifications.
Seriously Julia, stop acting like I am an idiot or something. I have thought about it plenty. I lay awake at night thinking. There are people out there voting for Tony Abbott to "Stop the Boats", 5000
refugees p.a. who have a legal right to seek asylum (what is that as a % of our total annual immigration?), there are people out there voting Liberal just because their Pastor or Priest told them to, there are people out there voting Labor because they support middle class welfare. Some people vote one way just because their parents did. I am serious when I say I want to see those scum sucking bastards
squirm.
When I wrote to MPs and Senators about the erosion of what are supposed to be inalienable human rights, only the Greens gave two ****s. Guess what, I will repay the kindness in kind. To those who succumbed to nationalistic fascist fervor, you will get your comeuppance "under the line" come election day. Shame you can't put more than one party as your last preference.