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[Tisme]

When weed is legalised here buy shares in CSR plaster products. The repairing of holes caused by fists should skyrocket. And lockup cages, where parents can place their belongings in safety while their child runs amok in one of the regular psychosis fits.

I'd also recommend an endowment fund from birth that you can draw down on to pay for the psychiatric bills of your smoke damaged zombies.

Finally Epilim for the seizures that will last a lifetime...a gift that keeps on giving.

 

[fiftyeight]

When weed is legalised here buy shares in CSR plaster products. The repairing of holes caused by fists should skyrocket. And lockup cages, where parents can place their belongings in safety while their child runs amok in one of the regular psychosis fits.

I'd also recommend an endowment fund from birth that you can draw down on to pay for the psychiatric bills of your smoke damaged zombies.

Finally Epilim for the seizures that will last a lifetime...a gift that keeps on giving.

What kind of parent would let their kids smoke weed? Not sure of your parenting style, but I know I would not let my kids drink alcohol or smoke weed regardless of legality.

Evidence would suggest the opposite, but since when did trolls need evidence

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_cannabis_by_country

 

[Humid]

When weed is legalised here buy shares in CSR plaster products. The repairing of holes caused by fists should skyrocket. And lockup cages, where parents can place their belongings in safety while their child runs amok in one of the regular psychosis fits.

I'd also recommend an endowment fund from birth that you can draw down on to pay for the psychiatric bills of your smoke damaged zombies.

Finally Epilim for the seizures that will last a lifetime...a gift that keeps on giving.

Give it a rest Pops your generation had their turn and it’s failed miserably.
Michael Jackson
Tom Petty
Heath Ledger
Whitney the list goes on and on and these are the legal drugs.
The war on drugs is lost
Drugs won

 

[moXJO]

When I was young, all I knew was weed users. I tried it and it was never for me. I have family members who have used it for over 50 plus years.

Couple of observations:

If long time users don't get access to weed they get irritable/aggressive. Aggression levels depend on the person.

Schizophrenia development does happen in heavy users. Apparently its if your prone to it already. But an awful lot of my older mates ended up with it. Some people have full on mental meltdowns on it where they no longer can function.

The claim "weed doesn’t have a single death" is only partly true. Medically you won't OD. But the amount of guys that died due to the onset of depression/schizophrenia due to, or in combination with weed use is staggering. The amount of guys I cut down, or found stuffed in vehicles gassed is ridiculous.
They were from a wide cross section of society with heavy marijuana use the common factor.

Some guys can use it with no effects for years. As far as the toll on your body physically is concerned, then I think its one of the safer of the illicit drugs. You do get some random stuff. One guy I knew became allergic to everything, but it would be hard to pin pot on that. Bong cough is about the worst most get.

Its addictive. Some of my sons friends are out of control on this stuff. Most users can't stop using.

I have friends that are big time advocates. They have been on the "730 report" and other media extolling weeds values. I've watched their lives for upwards of 20 years plus. And if anything, pot held them back.

I remember when "skunk" came out in the 90s. A super strong strain of weed, mainly hydro. Don't quote me, but I think it was in the 5-12% thc range. Now we have stuff nudging, or over 30% thc. People put to much faith in, or over exaggerating the benefits of weed. Old studies on bush weed should be made redundant. They were in the 5% range.

It may have a lot of legitimate uses but I don't think its safe mentally, physically, or ambition wise.

 

[Humid]

When I was young, all I knew was weed users. I tried it and it was never for me. I have family members who have used it for over 50 plus years.

Couple of observations:

If long time users don't get access to weed they get irritable/aggressive. Aggression levels depend on the person.

Schizophrenia development does happen in heavy users. Apparently its if your prone to it already. But an awful lot of my older mates ended up with it. Some people have full on mental meltdowns on it where they no longer can function.

The claim "weed doesn’t have a single death" is only partly true. Medically you won't OD. But the amount of guys that died due to the onset of depression/schizophrenia due to, or in combination with weed use is staggering. The amount of guys I cut down, or found stuffed in vehicles gassed is ridiculous.
They were from a wide cross section of society with heavy marijuana use the common factor.

Some guys can use it with no effects for years. As far as the toll on your body physically is concerned, then I think its one of the safer of the illicit drugs. You do get some random stuff. One guy I knew became allergic to everything, but it would be hard to pin pot on that. Bong cough is about the worst most get.

Its addictive. Some of my sons friends are out of control on this stuff. Most users can't stop using.

I have friends that are big time advocates. They have been on the "730 report" and other media extolling weeds values. I've watched their lives for upwards of 20 years plus. And if anything, pot held them back.

I remember when "skunk" came out in the 90s. A super strong strain of weed, mainly hydro. Don't quote me, but I think it was in the 5-12% thc range. Now we have stuff nudging, or over 30% thc. People put to much faith in, or over exaggerating the benefits of weed.

It may have a lot of legitimate uses but I don't think its safe mentally, physically, or ambition wise.

And all that time it was illegal
So maybe a it’s time for a different approach

 

[moXJO]

And all that time it was illegal
So maybe a it’s time for a different approach

It was everywhere. Every second house was a dispenser. It was more widely accessible then ever.
The US model they are breeding higher level of thc in plants. Monsanto is going to breed mutant plants with dna changes. Corporations in on the act and you think it gets better?
How did cigarettes and alcohol go when that happened....

 

[Humid]

You know plenty of people smoke weed part time and I haven’t seen anything of the scale your talking.
The weekend joint type people are doin fine you take it to the extreme which you can do with any substance.
I saw plenty of drug use growing up most smokers I know or knew from teens either:
Stopped got married had kids and the occasional puff
Gave it away due to work testing
Got on harder drugs
A few with some mental issues but a very small percentage
Heroin is what pucked them
Even the ones that beat the addiction are now dying in 40/50s of other things mainly cancer.
Not sure if it’s connected but it’s happening a lot

 

[Humid]

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It was everywhere. Every second house was a dispenser. It was more widely accessible then ever.
The US model they are breeding higher level of thc in plants. Monsanto is going to breed mutant plants with dna changes. Corporations in on the act and you think it gets better?
How did cigarettes and alcohol go when that happened....

I was in Amsterdam way before any of that happened and seriously it was only a big deal to the tourists.

 

[moXJO]

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I was in Amsterdam way before any of that happened and seriously it was only a big deal to the tourists.

They changed the laws there, I thought. All the drug users would lay around in the parks all day. The stronger drugs were pushed in back alleys.

 

[Humid]

I’ve worked offshore construction mining for the last 20 years I know lots of young people...lots
You work 12 hour days 7 days a week
You talk a lot of **** to break the boredom
Young people don’t smoke dope anymore
Not with money anyway

 

[moXJO]

You know plenty of people smoke weed part time and I haven’t seen anything of the scale your talking.
The weekend joint type people are doin fine you take it to the extreme which you can do with any substance.
I saw plenty of drug use growing up most smokers I know or knew from teens either:
Stopped got married had kids and the occasional puff
Gave it away due to work testing
Got on harder drugs
A few with some mental issues but a very small percentage
Heroin is what pucked them
Even the ones that beat the addiction are now dying in 40/50s of other things mainly cancer.
Not sure if it’s connected but it’s happening a lot

Thats the problem. The current supply cycle is based on the weed growing cycle. Plant around fathers day, and its harvest time probably this week actually. So its majority bush. Bush bud isn’t too much of a problem. Thc levels are lower compared to hydro (same genetics due to weathering of resin glands) and it takes a lot more to get stoned.

We also go through dry periods round the November to April periods as the pot runs out. So it gives a lot of users time to get off it or get out of their system.

With hydro and large scale hydro farms or imports then its high potency all year round. Chronics can get their fill all day -every day.

I'm not taking it to the extreme either. I could care less if some weekend smoker can't score a joint. Truth is my reality is the one thats actually playing out. One joint a weekend yeah its safe. But the young guys pulling cones in a circle ain't.

I saw and still see the same usage of weed today.

Yeah I saw the worst of the heroin and now the ice. Ice is the one breaking through the social classes.

 

[moXJO]

I’ve worked offshore construction mining for the last 20 years I know lots of young people...lots
You work 12 hour days 7 days a week
You talk a lot of **** to break the boredom
Young people don’t smoke dope anymore
Not with money anyway

My son knows plenty of hardcore smokers, girls and boys in school and trades.one was recently hospitalized. It was out of fashion for years. But now its coming back. Last years pot festival was one of the biggest ever.

 

[Humid]

My son knows plenty of hardcore smokers, girls and boys in school and trades.one was recently hospitalized. It was out of fashion for years. But now its coming back. Last years pot festival was one of the biggest ever.

So how’s the prohibition working for you then?

 

[Humid]

I agree it’s not for young people with developing brains
But a fully grown adult who wants to have a choof on the weekend is a criminal...cmon
I don’t know where you grew up or where you live now but have you thought about moving.

 

[Humid]

Anyway it’s going to be legalised or decriminalised eventually so you lot might want to get your head around it

 

[moXJO]

I agree it’s not for young people with developing brains
But a fully grown adult who wants to have a choof on the weekend is a criminal...cmon
I don’t know where you grew up or where you live now but have you thought about moving.

Yeah I moved a long time ago into a richer area its still there. Maybe you just don't see the underbelly of Australia.
Same with alcohol everyone ignores the soccer mums knocking back two bottles of red every afternoon. Or the binge drinkers, pack a day smokers etc so long as it doesn't affect them.
It's not the area I'm in.

I think it should be decriminalized. But thats about it. I think alcohol is way worse but we are already stuck with it.

If I asked you "are you willing to give up your weekend drink by banning alcohol" what do you think the common response would be?
For you it might not be a problem. But for millions across the world its killing and destroying families. People have major problems with it. Thats what people refuse to see.

 

[moXJO]

Anyway it’s going to be legalised or decriminalised eventually so you lot might want to get your head around it

I believe in freedom of choice. So majority rules. Just want both sides examined.

 

[fiftyeight]

Schizophrenia development does happen in heavy users. Apparently its if your prone to it already. But an awful lot of my older mates ended up with it. Some people have full on mental meltdowns on it where they no longer can function.

The amount of guys I cut down, or found stuffed in vehicles gassed is ridiculous.
They were from a wide cross section of society with heavy marijuana use the common factor.

Some guys can use it with no effects for years. As far as the toll on your body physically is concerned, then I think its one of the safer of the illicit drugs. You do get some random stuff. One guy I knew became allergic to everything, but it would be hard to pin pot on that. Bong cough is about the worst most get.

Yes weed does have many issues, but it is possible the people who ended up with an addiction always had an underlying issue. If weed did not exist they would medicate with something else.

I have been around many heavy drug users of hard drugs and through FB have some idea how most of end up years later. Only in my 30s but I have not seen a single one commit suicide. Not saying drugs are good, I am saying that I think your experience of cutting so many mates is extreme.

My point is much like others, yes drugs are bad. They do have devastating impacts on society. But the war drugs has been an abject failure so lets try a new approach. If that does not work lets try something else? I think we will up end finding it is case of, what is the least worst approach? as it is the human condition that drugs will always ruin a portion of the population.

 

[Tisme]

When I was young, all I knew was weed users. I tried it and it was never for me. I have family members who have used it for over 50 plus years.

Couple of observations:

If long time users don't get access to weed they get irritable/aggressive. Aggression levels depend on the person.

Schizophrenia development does happen in heavy users. Apparently its if your prone to it already. But an awful lot of my older mates ended up with it. Some people have full on mental meltdowns on it where they no longer can function.

The claim "weed doesn’t have a single death" is only partly true. Medically you won't OD. But the amount of guys that died due to the onset of depression/schizophrenia due to, or in combination with weed use is staggering. The amount of guys I cut down, or found stuffed in vehicles gassed is ridiculous.
They were from a wide cross section of society with heavy marijuana use the common factor.

Some guys can use it with no effects for years. As far as the toll on your body physically is concerned, then I think its one of the safer of the illicit drugs. You do get some random stuff. One guy I knew became allergic to everything, but it would be hard to pin pot on that. Bong cough is about the worst most get.

Its addictive. Some of my sons friends are out of control on this stuff. Most users can't stop using.

I have friends that are big time advocates. They have been on the "730 report" and other media extolling weeds values. I've watched their lives for upwards of 20 years plus. And if anything, pot held them back.

I remember when "skunk" came out in the 90s. A super strong strain of weed, mainly hydro. Don't quote me, but I think it was in the 5-12% thc range. Now we have stuff nudging, or over 30% thc. People put to much faith in, or over exaggerating the benefits of weed. Old studies on bush weed should be made redundant. They were in the 5% range.

It may have a lot of legitimate uses but I don't think its safe mentally, physically, or ambition wise.

That post is far to sensible for some here.

I too watched my once ambitious and clever mates launch their lives to the bottom of their ability.

Show me a frequent pot user and within three feet I'll generally smell: washing powder in unrinsed clothes, weed smoke and faint wafting of rotting food. Attention to domestic hygiene seems of secondary importance to many.

I understand many who don't give a shite and even use alcohol abuse and smoking as some kind of excuse to allow even more state sanctioned poisoning of the population. I don't suffer fools well so I tend not to socialise with those kind of people, so it's hard for me to quantify the perverse logic behind their need to globalise their own miserable existence or lack of intestinal fortitude to defend the weak in society from themselves.

 

[Tisme]

You know plenty of people smoke weed part time and I haven’t seen anything of the scale your talking.
The weekend joint type people are doin fine you take it to the extreme which you can do with any substance.
I saw plenty of drug use growing up most smokers I know or knew from teens either:
Stopped got married had kids and the occasional puff
Gave it away due to work testing
Got on harder drugs
A few with some mental issues but a very small percentage
Heroin is what pucked them
Even the ones that beat the addiction are now dying in 40/50s of other things mainly cancer.
Not sure if it’s connected but it’s happening a lot

I'd guess you haven't really taken time out to visit the places where the addicts end up. Perhaps taking the blinkers off and first stop the local mental ward at the hospital and then branch out from there.

Want to promote something other than narcotics? Get involved in a charity and try to destroy it by eliminating the need for it.