The Australian Greens party

[moXJO]

Agree, poor choice of words. Public education, early intervention.....like with everything it requires a layered or network response and some people will fall through.

The people battling with it will have a life long battle regardless of the legality, they will always find a way to get it. I don't think we do keep the majority away from it in the long run. I went to 3 high schools, 1 in a low socio-economic area and 2 at the upper end. The kids who wanted to try weed at all 3 had more than enough access to experiment.

There has been easy access to weed for a lot longer than 20 years?

Its probably been easy access since the 60s.
It tends to get left behind in high school for a lot of kids. And like I said before, you are restricted by the grow cycle to some degree. When it goes dry it gives people a chance to quit.
If its illegal a lot of people won't try due to the loser stigma. More open acceptance will change that.

You also get varying degrees of strength currently. Not the hydro potent strains day in day out if it were legal.

But then you have issues with pgrs and mould in badly cured buds( with the illegal stuff). So its a toss up.

 

[moXJO]

There has been easy access to weed for a lot longer than 20 years?

Just to expand - the weed today is a lot more potent. Probably triple what it was in the 90s and god knows how much since the 60s. Different growing methods as well.

Old studies would no longer be relevant.

 

[fiftyeight]

Its probably been easy access since the 60s.
It tends to get left behind in high school for a lot of kids. And like I said before, you are restricted by the grow cycle to some degree. When it goes dry it gives people a chance to quit.
If its illegal a lot of people won't try due to the loser stigma. More open acceptance will change that.

You also get varying degrees of strength currently. Not the hydro potent strains day in day out if it were legal.

But then you have issues with pgrs and mould in badly cured buds( with the illegal stuff). So its a toss up.

Hydro has been around as long as I have so that must be 20 years +. By regulating weed the potency could be regulated.

Strongly disagree with this one, tobacco and Portugal suggest otherwise.

https://mic.com/articles/110344/14-...-all-drugs-here-s-what-s-happening#.iuXJVm4TX

 

[moXJO]

Hydro has been around as long as I have so that must be 20 years +. By regulating weed the potency could be regulated.

Strongly disagree with this one, tobacco and Portugal suggest otherwise.

https://mic.com/articles/110344/14-...-all-drugs-here-s-what-s-happening#.iuXJVm4TX

Its been decriminalised. I'm for that, not legalisation.

 

[fiftyeight]

Its been decriminalised. I'm for that, not legalisation.

Apologies I read it as you were for keeping it illegal

 

[Tisme]

Haha more quality trolling

dontdecriminalize.org haha

Umm govt report. Reading 101.

I'm guessing your scruples went out the door when you invested in someone like Bruce Linton?

 

[Humid]

https://www.healio.com/psychiatry/s...aws-do-not-boost-recreational-use-among-teens

 

[fiftyeight]

Umm govt report. Reading 101.

I'm guessing your scruples went out the door when you invested in someone like Bruce Linton?

Haha I don't have time to read links from posters I don't respect. You are not blocked because you are good for a laugh!!!

Note: I do read links from the opposing side of the argument from most posters

 

[Humid]

http://www.newsweek.com/marijuana-u...005-not-because-legislation-study-says-663826

 

[moXJO]

https://www.healio.com/psychiatry/substance-use-disorders/news/online/{935f06c2-7295-45c2-a406-6d9d05578869}/medical-marijuana-laws-do-not-boost-recreational-use-among-teens

They used meta-analysis in this study which isn't that hard on conclusions and themselves said "more research into this area needs to be done".

The results showed no significant increases or decreases in adolescent recreational use following the legalization of medical marijuana. Meta-analysis revealed that none of the studies demonstrated significant changes in marijuana use prevalence among teens pre-post enactment of medical marijuana laws compared with simultaneous changes in states without medical marijuana laws (standardized mean difference = –0.003).

“While medical marijuana laws did not increase the risk for marijuana use in teens so far, that does not diminish the potential seriousness of regular or heavy early use, which requires clinical attention in states with and without medical marijuana laws,” Hasin told Healio Psychiatry.

Of 11 studies included in the meta-analysis, all studies that compared states with and without legalized medical marijuana found that states with medical marijuana laws had higher rates of past-month marijuana use before the passage of such laws. Although the impact of legalizing medical cannabis on additional marijuana outcomes and subgroups produced nonsignificant results, limited heterogeneity warrants further study, according to the authors.

"For now, there appears to be no basis for the argument that legalizing medical marijuana has increased teens' use of the drug. However, we may find that the situation changes as commercialized markets for medical marijuana develop and expand, and as states legalize recreational marijuana use,” Hasin said in a press release. "This warrants additional consideration, especially with the decreasing national trend of risk perception among adolescents and as the current perception gives rise to more medical marijuana stores and commercial opportunities."

On the other hand, other evidence indicated that more adults may use marijuana recreationally after the passage of medical marijuana laws, according to Hasin.

“The $8 billion cannabis industry anticipates tripling by 2025,” she said in the release. “Obtaining a solid evidence base about harmful, as well as beneficial, effects of medical and recreational marijuana laws on adults is crucial given the intense economic pressures to expand cannabis markets.”

More adults are using and they want to triple the market. This is also for medical marijuana use- not legalised recreational marijuana use.

 

[Humid]

Do you realise how easy it is to get medical pot in the states

 

[Humid]

http://www.newsweek.com/marijuana-u...005-not-because-legislation-study-says-663826

Why not quote this then?

 

[moXJO]

Do you realise how easy it is to get medical pot in the states

Yeah I do. But theres a bigger time lag on commercialization of weed as the safety barriers are broken down and greed hits its stride.

 

[moXJO]

Why not quote this then?

That article was basically "People like weed".
Was there a specific part of the article?

 

[fiftyeight]

Yeah I do. But theres a bigger time lag on commercialization of weed as the safety barriers are broken down and greed hits its stride.

Definitely a major concern

 

[Tisme]

Haha I don't have time to read links from posters I don't respect. You are not blocked because you are good for a laugh!!!

Note: I do read links from the opposing side of the argument from most posters

Are you saying you aren't role playing Forrest Gump! If I'd known ......

 

[Humid]

That article was basically "People like weed".
Was there a specific part of the article?

No
You seem to be getting it
It’s not the side effects or dangerous health issues it’s the fear of getting caught.
People who abuse drugs are already doing it what’s wrong with educated adults having the occasional choof without everyone ending up in the nut house like old mate would have you believe.
The non crusader bloke

 

[Humid]

Yeah I do. But theres a bigger time lag on commercialization of weed as the safety barriers are broken down and greed hits its stride.

So we let the bikies and crooks reap the rewards?

 

[Tisme]

When you strip away the silly logic (non sequiturs) of using alcohol, tobacco, black civil rights, etc as justification for smoking weed and just admitting it's a narcotic that f$#ks with your brain, the real problem is that it is not good for you.

Dismissing the downside facts just because it doesn't gel with a utopian sheeple mentality and preferring rather to believe in fiction won't magically make the bad things go away.

Obviously debating with people who already damaged their brains from weed is a waste of time, as witnessed in this very thread. I don't begrudge these guys lowering their IQs voluntarily, I just don't think they should be infecting young minds with similar ideas because eventually there won't be anyone to have an intelligent head to head with in the open domain... the conversations will probably centre around high brow issues like munchies and brownies.

So concentrating on the actual facts, without the troll nonsense from the dynamic dud duo, the issue is The Greens and their promotion of weed:

Dental Consequences:

an interesting "fact" about weed is that it dries out the mouth. And that is the reason you see pot users with higher incidences of decay, gum disease, tooth loss and plaque. Enamel loss is high as is relatively early loss of teeth even up against tobacco smokers.

There's also a change to the mouth cavity walls which leads to propensity of cannabis stomatitis and cancer risk.

Pot smokers should not use mouth washes.

Because weed impedes bone production, dental implants are less likely to be successful.

If the dentist has to administer epinephrine and your THC levels are high you are at high risk of never seeing the sun again. I guess if you are susceptible to anaphylaxis you are pretty much kaput.

 

[Humid]

7392 posts in 3 1/2 years and comments on my mental health lol
Can I call you Neville?