The Australian Greens party

[Eager]

Re: The Greens have flexed their muscle over Gillard Labor, again

I sometimes wonder if genuine refugees can actually afford the large fares charged by smugglers and if they are further displaced because Australia is so busy with the rich ones coming by boat that the poor, genuine refugees don't get a chance? Any thoughts, Eager?

Yes, you could be right there, though generally speaking I still can't believe the amount of hysterical drivel being written about those arriving by boat. The following is an old article, but no doubt still relevant:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...to-come-by-plane/story-e6frg6nf-1225802705191

Further reading to be had here:
http://www.aph.gov.au/library/pubs/bn/sp/AsylumFacts.pdf

It seem silly to be hung up about boat people now, doesn't it?

 

[Smurf1976]

Re: The Greens have flexed their muscle over Gillard Labor, again

Julia, I agree.

Our own have to be pretty much living out of their cars before they can get anywhere near the top of the list in housing.

It is shameful and surely the Pacific Solution would not have cost the billions that this government have spent on all their grandiose attempts which have only lured more boats here and then the cost to this country of thousands more arriving now that the welcome mat has been made even bigger. And add to that the burden of carbon tax. Another two years of this is going to be a long time.

And then there's that wonderful idea of "processing" them in Tasmania.

Meanwhile, ordinary people are being simply removed from the waiting list at the state's largest public hospital given that there's no real prospect of them ever being treated following the latest round of budget cuts. Sad but true according to the media.

The Green economy is great - as long as you have some personal source of income from outside which enables you to avoid reliance on public services and local employment. But for the majority of the population it's anything but good...

 

[sptrawler]

Re: The Greens have flexed their muscle over Gillard Labor, again

I find it amazing how much mayhem this government has caused in 4 years of office.
As for the illegal immigrants being offered the same conditions as those who arrive by plane. Maybe they could do us the honour of carrying their identification papers the same as those who arrive by plane. So their identity and intent can be confirmed.
I'm all for a central detention centre in Tassie, it would help the unemployment and make it easier for Bob to look after them.

 

[drsmith]

Re: The Greens have flexed their muscle over Gillard Labor, again

http://www.abc.net.au/local/audio/2011/10/14/3339417.htm

The intro by Jon Faine is a doozie.

He had a second crack at around 5:45 to go.

On an ABC TV news segment, an interviewer went further with Bob Brown, asking him what it's like to be running the country.

 

[sptrawler]

Re: The Greens have flexed their muscle over Gillard Labor, again

http://www.abc.net.au/local/audio/2011/10/14/3339417.htm

The intro by Jon Faine is a doozie.

He had a second crack at around 5:45 to go.

On an ABC TV news segment, an interviewer went further with Bob Brown, asking him what it's like to be running the country.

I think she is going to have about as much chance selling the message that it is the oppositions fault for onshore proccessing, as she had selling the pink batt fiasco.
She is sounding more like a "dead man walking"all the time.
Actually it is bordering on embarrassing.

 

[Ruby]

Re: The Greens have flexed their muscle over Gillard Labor, again

I think she is going to have about as much chance selling the message that it is the oppositions fault for onshore proccessing, as she had selling the pink batt fiasco.
She is sounding more like a "dead man walking"all the time.
Actually it is bordering on embarrassing.

Loved Jon Faine's intro!! She is so embarrassingly painful to listen to - it makes me cringe. She won't shut up, will she! She never metions a word about the Greens - her Coalitions partners - not supporting her asylum seeker policy! Very quiet about that.

 

[Calliope]

Re: The Greens have flexed their muscle over Gillard Labor, again

Allan Asher, the Commonwealth Ombudsman has resigned as a result of his stupidity for having colluded with the Greens. He won't be missed. He shares the same views with the Greens on the welcoming and treatment of illegal immigrants,

Of course ther is no guarantee that his replacement won't be a Green's supporter too.

 

[Logique]

Re: The Greens have flexed their muscle over Gillard Labor, again

Yet another scalp claimed by the Greens. Like a Medusa's head, don't look you'll be turned to stone.

 

[Calliope]

Re: The Greens have flexed their muscle over Gillard Labor, again

GetUP pride themselves in being nasty, however they object to being called Nazis

GetUp! demands apology for senator's Nazi youth slur
Jessica Wright
November 3, 2011 - 5:07PM

The activist group GetUp! and the Australian Greens are demanding Liberal senator Ian Macdonald withdraw comments linking them to the youth league of Nazi Germany.

Queensland Liberal Senator Ian MacDonald made the remark during a fiery Senate debate on the carbon tax legislation in response to GetUp! plans for nationwide celebrations on Tuesday to mark the expected passage of the bill.

Referring to the organisation as “the Hitler Youth wing of the Greens political movement,’’ Senator MacDonald repeated his statement after the Greens Deputy Leader, Christine Milne, objected on a point of order and demanded the comment be withdrawn.

Senate deputy president Stephen Parry refused to rule the comment out of order and the Greens have pledged to refer both Liberal senators to the upper house privileges committee, saying the ‘‘Coalition’s dirty politics have hit a new low’’.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/getu...-youth-slur-20111103-1mx7s.html#ixzz1ccYmuLgw

 

[nulla nulla]

Re: The Greens have flexed their muscle over Gillard Labor, again

Yet another scalp claimed by the Greens. Like a Medusa's head, don't look you'll be turned to stone.

Good post

 

[tothemax6]

Re: The Greens have flexed their muscle over Gillard Labor, again

I would like to know what the Greens hidden agenda is in pushing for this flood of asylum seekers.

More economic ruin???????????

Same thing as a thug beating his wife, we all scratch our heads trying to comprehend why some people do the things they do, but we forget that we are judging their actions by our own healthy morals. In reality the reason is simple,
they like hurting people.

 

[Calliope]

Re: The Greens have flexed their muscle over Gillard Labor, again

Bob Brown is rubbing his hands with glee over the spate of attacks on our soldiers by rogue Afghans. He is putting pressure on the Government for an early pull out. When we do cut and run he will see this as a victory for Green's policy. He now has Gillard wedged, as most electors agree with him, on this one.

 

[pilots]

Re: The Greens have flexed their muscle over Gillard Labor, again

This is the ONLY time I have agreed with Nob Brown, we are fighting a war we can NEVER win, bring our boys home.

 

[dutchie]

Re: The Greens have flexed their muscle over Gillard Labor, again

Bob Brown is rubbing his hands with glee over the spate of attacks on our soldiers by rogue Afghans.

I think that's a bit harsh.

 

[sinner]

An issue on which Farmers and Greens seem to have united

As a wise ASF poster once said "one day, QLD from the sky is going to be pockmarked with craters like the moon" (sic)

 

[Logique]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

With thanks to Miranda Devine, a voice of sanity in NSW, quoting her father Frank Devine http://blogs.news.com.au/dailyteleg.../from_the_vault_the_origins_of_the_green_rot/

"Based on the 10 per cent share [in 2004] of the national vote most opinion polls currently award the Greens, it is reasonable to wonder: As Tasmania has gone, so goes Australia?..

..These were the things Brown and Singer [in 1996] declared the Greens to be against:
Cars and highways: Trains and trams are okay but walking and cycling are best.
Dams and irrigation: The natural flow of rivers needs to be restored.
People having more money than the average person needs: Radical tax reform linked to a “guaranteed adequate income scheme” would fix that.
The World Trade Organisation and free trade: There should be no trade on even terms with countries whose industries sys*tematically damage the environment or which exploit labour.
The capitalist free market: Unregulated, it is a ruthless force “that sweeps aside all traditional ways of living that stand in the path of a relentless drive for profit”.
Too much work: The working day should be of six hours at most, and annual holidays doubled or trebled. This would eliminate unemployment and give everybody time with their families, and time to continue their education, go for walks and grow their gardens.
The United States: It’s a source of evil, from soap operas to greed.
Agribusiness: Keeping chickens and pigs in permanent indoor confinement should be banned, and cattle, sheep and other grazing animals removed from arid and semi*arid regions.
Psychotherapy: Needed now because people don’t believe in God but unnecessary when they embrace Green ethics.."

 

[drsmith]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

How the Greens would really like to run the country,

http://blogs.abc.net.au/antonygreen...-communists-in-port-adelaide-by-election.html

http://sa.greens.org.au/portadelaide/

On the basis of candidates’ and/or parties’ policies, recent announcements by the ALP, and the values and track record of all candidates, the How-To-Vote card distributed by the Greens on polling day will recommend the following allocation of preferences:

1. McARTHUR, Justin - Greens

2. BRITON, Bob – Independent Communist Australia

 

[orr]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

Better look out guys, The Greens in Germany are polling up around 20%, so there's sure to be a flood of reffos from that economic dystopia.
And what did old Frank Devine have to say about the flooding of Lake Pedder? I'll take it as read, that the above half dozen or so, concur amongst yourselves that it was a fine Idea... and my children thank you.

Have a look at those photos and see what you've lost.

And tell me are Alan Jones, The NAT's, and the Greens, all singing off the same Song Sheet on Coal seam Gas

Is there a more failed project, failed at every level than the 'War Against Drugs'. That continues to pour Billions into the pockets of Organised Crime. To which your 'voice of sanity' Franks little girl, is a rusted on supporter regardless of the weight of evidence. Bob Hawke, asked about Decriminalisation as he was leaving office, his daughter heroin addiction was well reported, noted the Australian electorate lack the maturity. And to the level of absurdity where we can't even grow industrial Hemp, a fibre Henry Ford was incorporating into his cars in the 1930's for it's weight and fuel saving potential.

In the film 'Children of the Revolution" Judy Davis's characters child, is talked about worryingly by its teacher as "having Ideas"... It's the Ideas that worry you guys isn't it , and your inability to intellectually in-gauge with them, so you label it 'Radical' 'Socialist' so you can put it in a box so it's not so scary.

'Its just some small lake no one goes to, that some 'long hairs' are kicking up a fuss about, to hold up progress. A good Conservative politician told me so.'

 

[Smurf1976]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

And what did old Frank Devine have to say about the flooding of Lake Pedder?

The single largest source of renewable energy in Australia is the Gordon Power Scheme of which Lake Pedder is a part.

Enough said that the Greens would like to see it drained and more coal burnt as a direct result. That's one of the reasons I just can't take them seriously - who in their right mind would even contemplate dismantling a source of clean, renewable and reliable energy?

There's a reason that even Bob isn't too keen on this one these days. Something about his pro-coal comments back in 1994 and his subsequent being discredited over tourism potential live on the 7:30 Report may best explain this. That interview marked the effective end of "Pedder 2000" and their full on push to drain the lake, although the group does still exist as such.

 

[IFocus]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

Better look out guys, The Greens in Germany are polling up around 20%, so there's sure to be a flood of reffos from that economic dystopia.
And what did old Frank Devine have to say about the flooding of Lake Pedder? I'll take it as read, that the above half dozen or so, concur amongst yourselves that it was a fine Idea... and my children thank you.

Have a look at those photos and see what you've lost.

And tell me are Alan Jones, The NAT's, and the Greens, all singing off the same Song Sheet on Coal seam Gas

Is there a more failed project, failed at every level than the 'War Against Drugs'. That continues to pour Billions into the pockets of Organised Crime. To which your 'voice of sanity' Franks little girl, is a rusted on supporter regardless of the weight of evidence. Bob Hawke, asked about Decriminalisation as he was leaving office, his daughter heroin addiction was well reported, noted the Australian electorate lack the maturity. And to the level of absurdity where we can't even grow industrial Hemp, a fibre Henry Ford was incorporating into his cars in the 1930's for it's weight and fuel saving potential.

In the film 'Children of the Revolution" Judy Davis's characters child, is talked about worryingly by its teacher as "having Ideas"... It's the Ideas that worry you guys isn't it , and your inability to intellectually in-gauge with them, so you label it 'Radical' 'Socialist' so you can put it in a box so it's not so scary.

'Its just some small lake no one goes to, that some 'long hairs' are kicking up a fuss about, to hold up progress. A good Conservative politician told me so.'

AAhh brother nice post