The Australian Greens party

[Calliope]

Re: The Greens

Do we really need a self confessed communist in Senator Lee Rhiannon under the guise of a Greenie in Parliament?

Please scroll down to the latter part of this link to read a full account of this unworthy senator.


http://www.thesydneyinstitute.com.au/media-watch-dog/

Rhiannon is a good fit with the Greens with their policy of attracting Muslim immigrants. Nobody should be fooled that the Green's policy to pull out of Afghanistan is over concern for Australian soldiers..

 

[Logique]

Re: The Greens

Do we really need a self confessed communist in Senator Lee Rhiannon under the guise of a Greenie in Parliament?...http://www.thesydneyinstitute.com.au/media-watch-dog/

Yes I read that Noco. Interesting that she was born Lee Brown. The Rhiannon thing is a deed poll name change.

When in the NSW Legislative Council, MLC Rhiannon spent a good deal of her time attacking the previous NSW Labor government about political donations from developers.

But now (according to MWD in that link) it turns out that in the 1970's, when the Communist Party of Australia repudiated Moscow over it's invasion of Czechoslovakia, Rhiannon followed the breakaway Socialist Party of Australia, which not only stayed loyal to Moscow, but received donations from the USSR.

You may well consider that hypocrisy. I couldn't possibly comment.

As stated by the authors in that link, Senator Rhiannon may well say, that was all a folly of youth. So why then, won't she openly and publicly repudiate the communist ideology she followed for at least two decades of her life?

 

[drsmith]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

Bob Brown hasn't taken long to jump on to the idea of a financial transaction tax.

No link yet, heard on ABC radio news.

 

[IFocus]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

+1.

+2 that was funny as hell

 

[wayneL]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

Gawd I miss The Chasers!

 

[LostMyShirt]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

Oh my Goodness that YT clip was absolutely brilliant!

 

[Smurf1976]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

Bob Brown hasn't taken long to jump on to the idea of a financial transaction tax.

No link yet, heard on ABC radio news.

Sorry to spoil your point but actually it's not a new one. He was pushing it a few years ago, primarily to apply to transactions involving currency exchange (any currencies and for any purpose). "Tobin Tax" he calls it.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

I know what the Greens are against, but if they ever got in to government what would they actually do, what are their policies for the country.

gg

 

[Calliope]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

I know what the Greens are against, but if they ever got in to government what would they actually do, what are their policies for the country.

gg

That's easy. They would ruin the economy. They are economic vandals.

 

[drsmith]

The Greens have flexed their muscle over Gillard Labor, again

Lacking the courage to put its Malaysian solution to a vote, Labor's latest effort now represents the Greens policies,

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...f-asylum-seekers/story-fn59niix-1226166090308

Immigration Minister Chris Bowen said mandatory detention would be maintained for "health, identity and security checks", but more asylum-seekers would be managed in the community as boat arrivals increased.

Greens Policy,

26. grant asylum seekers an asylum application visa (AAV) and assist without delay their move into the community provided medical and security checks are satisfied or after 14 days has passed, whichever occurs first.

He said bridging visas - currently used by visa overstayers - would be used more regularly for asylum-seekers.

"Bridging visas generally have work rights," Mr Bowen said.

"Generally speaking the access to payment support is limited to situations where it is means-tested and it is necessary for someone's ability to continue to live in the community and it is available at 89 per cent of the special benefit."

So, they still get the money.

Greens policy,

27. ensure asylum seekers living in the community while their claim is assessed will be granted an AAV which will entitle them to travel, work, income support and access to ongoing educational and medical services anywhere within Australia while their claims for asylum are assessed.

http://greens.org.au/policies/care-for-people/immigration-and-refugees

Anything for an extra 5-minutes in office.

 

[sails]

Re: The Greens have flexed their muscle over Gillard Labor, again

And yet, the crazy thing is, that Gillard does not have to bow and scrape to the greens or the indies. They will want their day in the sun for as long as possble and will do anything to stop the coalition from forming government.

I think Gillard is fulfilling her fabian dreams.

 

[noco]

Re: The Greens have flexed their muscle over Gillard Labor, again

I would like to know what the Greens hidden agenda is in pushing for this flood of asylum seekers.

More economic ruin???????????

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Re: The Greens have flexed their muscle over Gillard Labor, again

I would like to know what the Greens hidden agenda is in pushing for this flood of asylum seekers.

More economic ruin???????????

Blind ideology and social disruption, in my opinion. Crash, or crash through.

gg

 

[drsmith]

Re: The Greens have flexed their muscle over Gillard Labor, again

Blind ideology and social disruption, in my opinion. Crash, or crash through.

gg

The Greens have never looked happier.

The primary reason, in my view, is what they're doing to Labor.

 

[LostMyShirt]

Re: The Greens have flexed their muscle over Gillard Labor, again

Usually I'd say, "We need a Government change" - then I realize that everyone sucks.... Juliar and her Carbon rorte....

 

[joea]

Re: The Greens have flexed their muscle over Gillard Labor, again

Yep!
just waiting for a cartoon of the puppeteer Bob Brown dangling Gillard over the waters off Christmas Island.
joea

 

[Julia]

Re: The Greens have flexed their muscle over Gillard Labor, again

Generally speaking the access to payment support is limited to situations where it is means-tested and it is necessary for someone's ability to continue to live in the community and it is available at 89 per cent of the special benefit."

Does anyone know how much these asylum seekers will be paid whilst living in the community and having their claims as refugees assessed?

Michael Raper of the Red Cross was interviewed on Radio National this morning, and was enthusiastic about their capacity to extend their program of finding accommodation for asylum seekers and giving them all the social support they require.

I can't begin to imagine how sickened are those Australians who have through no fault of their own become homeless but have no similar access to such benevolence.

The government should be utterly ashamed.

 

[sails]

Re: The Greens have flexed their muscle over Gillard Labor, again

Julia, I agree.

Our own have to be pretty much living out of their cars before they can get anywhere near the top of the list in housing.

It is shameful and surely the Pacific Solution would not have cost the billions that this government have spent on all their grandiose attempts which have only lured more boats here and then the cost to this country of thousands more arriving now that the welcome mat has been made even bigger. And add to that the burden of carbon tax. Another two years of this is going to be a long time.

Boat smugglers will probably raise the fares now due to heavy demand.

 

[Eager]

Re: The Greens have flexed their muscle over Gillard Labor, again

I would like to know what the Greens hidden agenda is in pushing for this flood of asylum seekers.

More economic ruin???????????

Flood of asylum seekers? You've got to be joking.

Fact is, the numbers of boat people arriving towards our shores is a drop in the ocean (or should that be a child thrown overboard in the ocean?) compared to the total immigration levels. Have a read: http://www.immi.gov.au/media/fact-sheets/02key.htm

I'd rather share my neighbourhood with an Afghani who had been found to be legit and of good character after being processed, than someone like Puneet Puneet who did a runner with the help of one of his countrymen,
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/vi...im-flee-to-india/story-e6frf7kx-1226008199971

or the feuding Chaouks and Hadarras who came here 'properly,'
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...s-also-shot-dead/story-e6frg6nf-1225904877366

or those scumbag Celts currently doing the rounds as pretend-tradies, ripping off the elderly with promises of home renovations.
http://bayside-leader.whereilive.com.au/news/story/scam-hits-elderly/

Oh, and a warning to anyone: If you are going to bandy some figures around or otherwise make wild claims, cite your sources!

 

[sails]

Re: The Greens have flexed their muscle over Gillard Labor, again

Flood of asylum seekers? You've got to be joking.

Fact is, the numbers of boat people arriving towards our shores is a drop in the ocean (or should that be a child thrown overboard in the ocean?) compared to the total immigration levels. Have a read: http://www.immi.gov.au/media/fact-sheets/02key.htm

I'd rather share my neighbourhood with an Afghani who had been found to be legit and of good character after being processed, than someone like Puneet Puneet who did a runner with the help of one of his countrymen,
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/vi...im-flee-to-india/story-e6frf7kx-1226008199971

or the feuding Chaouks and Hadarras who came here 'properly,'
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...s-also-shot-dead/story-e6frg6nf-1225904877366

or those scumbag Celts currently doing the rounds as pretend-tradies, ripping off the elderly with promises of home renovations.
http://bayside-leader.whereilive.com.au/news/story/scam-hits-elderly/

Oh, and a warning to anyone: If you are going to bandy some figures around or otherwise make wild claims, cite your sources!

Are you the internet police? I thought most people cite their sources, however, I'm sure a gentle reminder if it has been forgotten would be a neighbourly thing to do...

I think you will find most people don't have a problem with legit refugees as you call them. Surely, one doesn't have to be a rocket scientist to work that out. Clearly, without strict border policy, it is open to all types who may not be refugees at all.

I sometimes wonder if genuine refugees can actually afford the large fares charged by smugglers and if they are further displaced because Australia is so busy with the rich ones coming by boat that the poor, genuine refugees don't get a chance? Any thoughts, Eager?