Absolute rubbish, what has died off will not recover. On a substancial drop in sea temperature new reef growth may come back but will take a long time. And that is common knowledge among scientists.As it has done for 500,000 years...As I have personally observed for over 80 years.....The reef is NOT dying as those radical Greens try to make out.....What utter propaganda to strengthen their stupid argument about Global warming.
What I thought was interesting was how David (sell out) Attenborough's comments, and the reportage thereof, transmogrified over the several days/weeks he was in the news here.
Absolute rubbish, what has died off will not recover. On a substancial drop in sea temperature new reef growth may come back but will take a long time. And that is common knowledge among scientists.
Wonder where you live up there noco, going to be a rough couple of days along the northern coast, so close the window. Such storms are very out of season too.
Anyolehow, the fact that frogs, with us for 800 million years (before the dinosaurs) are suddenly being wiped out in just fifty years is nothing to an ole smoking Joe like your good self.
Absolute rubbish, what has died off will not recover. On a substancial drop in sea temperature new reef growth may come back but will take a long time. And that is common knowledge among scientists.
Wonder where you live up there noco, going to be a rough couple of days along the northern coast, so close the window. Such storms are very out of season too.
Anyolehow, the fact that frogs, with us for 800 million years (before the dinosaurs) are suddenly being wiped out in just fifty years is nothing to an ole smoking Joe like your good self.
A lot of cells in my body die off never to be seen again also. Just a fact of nature really.
As to those frogs, 800 million years is one heck of a good innings! About time they made room for other species instead of hogging the limelight.
Edit: I forgot to add a reminder about this novel concept called evolution. In order for it to happen, things have to change, species and their habitat. There's this thing called nature and it is nothing to be alarmed about!
Is there sarcasm or tongue-in-cheek I might have missed?
I'm not sure most people would be so philosophical if they or the one they love go through these "evolution" and death stuff that's just a natural part of evolution.
I am guessing those ancestral climatologists were quite upset when, despite the widely proclaimed efficacy of climate models, their jurassic tariffs failed to reduce the size of their clawprints! The rest is prehistory!
sarcasm works better with actual facts AlgoMonk.
I am only 70 noco and from what you say you are near the ton, so take my hat off to you there ole pal.
I used to visit Townsville on holidays as a kid and as I have said many times on this site, was a shearer around Longreach. Used to go out a lot with my Uncle and my Cousin has a fish wholesale business there established over 45 years ago. I have fished it and swam in it. We used to love diving and swimming underwater to see who could hold thier breath the longest. As an artist from a very young age I loved the colours too.
The reef in clarity of colour had changed enormously 10 years back when I attended a funeral. My Cousin says it has further deteriorated drastically since then. And fish stock, strewth one could go on.
But basically my Family are of the land and I grew up on a farm. Recently retired fully to Bendigo and tapping back into the farming associates I can say we do not need scientists to tell us something is very wrong and the accelleration matches the increase in pollution in my observation.
Was at the local Green's candidate's election launch here yesterday and the thing is, alternative clean power sources are becoming economically very competitive which provides the possibility for huge industry growth and jobs. It is being done overseas big time but of course we will be held back till the big conglomerates can control it all first and thier donation power is great enough to support the right wing fascists of the Govum crooks Ments
Prehistory may not repeat, but it certainly rhymes with history! And that's a fact!
Russell Reichelt has to be careful with his words as he is a servant of the Federal Government. So I don't buy any of it. And noco, why the bold print in your quotes, it is annoying and a further destraction. A quote should be done as "follows"
The Greens are directed from the bottom up. Policy is developed from branch meetings across the country, their scrutiny, discussion and approval. The others from top down and beware anyone who does not stick to the script.
Its a bit of a contradiction the press picking up on inconsistencies so described. In a democracy one should be able to put ones own individual thoughts out there as part of answers. The knit picking are destractions to keep the electors confused and distracted.
I am sure the voting public would prefer to accept the word on the Great Barrier Reef from the GBRMPA, based just south of Townsville near Tickle Belly Bay, over the Greens.....I don't know how you can say the Federal Government would have any influence over GBRMPA......NB. ..I was president of the AWWA...(The Australian Water and Waste Water Association) some years ago.....I had a close relationship with GBRMPA and had visited their operation several times.......They do not fudge their work like it has been proven about the Greens.
It is your prerogative as which political party you follow but I would be having a close look at the Greens hidden agenda......They do everything behind close doors and the media have to keep their distance......The Greens are mostly Fabians ( socialist or communist ) or what ever you like to name them......The are "WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING".......They believe in central control......profit is a dirty word.....
So plod think hard about who you believe.
Crap, I have been very involved with the Greens for 15 years and can assure you from your take you do not have a clue as to how the party functions.
Back in the 70s as Mayor of a municipalty I had considerable insight into the Liberal Party, knew Malcolm Fraser, Bill Borthwick, Allan Hunt (Father of Greg) and some others at discussion level. The ALP was my party from a youth and know thier workings very well. Both they and the Libs are far removed from the idea of consensus among thier followers for the development of policy. I am with the Green's because they represent the combined (democratic) voice of the membership. Which as a matter of fact is how the AWU worked in my eight years as a young shearer.
And I do not require your assistance noco to think. I have a university Honours Degree (Distinction) and completed the 6 years of promotional studies within Vicpol. What you are used to is telling people what you want because you THINKyou are correct, seemingly on all matters.
The Greens are very open and certainly do not operate behind closed doors, anyone is welcome to party meetings at all levels including open invitations to state and federal conferences.
On ABC right now Adam Bant is discussing community owned renewable power companies. Very good concepts.
Very off topic. Apologies
http://www.theguardian.com/environm...g-with-climate-hacking-to-prevent-catastropheScientists debate experimenting with climate hacking to prevent catastrophe
Funding for geoengineering computational experiments was mysteriously included in a Senate appropriations bill
Dana Nuccitelli
Wednesday 1 June 2016 20.00 AEST
On his late-night talk show, Jimmy Kimmel recently invited climate scientists to explain that they’re not just messing with us about global warming.
In fact, climate scientists are so worried that we’re going to fail to prevent catastrophic consequences that some are studying how we can hack the climate, also known as “geoengineering.” This approach is essentially viewed as a last-ditch, “break glass in case of emergency” desperation option in the event of such a failure. Some climate scientists view this as a potentially reasonable way to deal with climate change, but others disagree. It’s a controversial topic.
Scientists have proposed various ways that we might use geoengineering to stave off a climate emergency, but one of the most popular involves pumping particles into the atmosphere. Volcanic eruptions spew tiny sulfur dioxide particles (aerosols) into the atmosphere, which reflect sunlight and act to temporarily cool the planet. If humans were to similarly pump aerosols into the atmosphere, in theory we could offset some global warming. This is known as albedo (whiteness) modification, because we would be modifying the Earth’s reflectivity.
If the idea of mimicking a continuous volcanic eruption makes you nervous, you’re not alone. A National Academies of Science (NAS) report warned that the potential side-effects of this type of climate hacking are not well understood or quantified. Moreover, it would not solve the problem of ocean acidification – sometimes referred to as “global warming’s evil twin” – a major threat to marine ecosystems that only 20% of the British public has ever heard of.
Came across some of the latest thoughts from climate scientists on where we go to somehow reduce GG. Geo engineering is now on the radar because frankly the option of using the safer ways of just reducing emissions has run out.
This story opens that discussion. Had a great piece in from a number of climate scientists making their point.
http://www.theguardian.com/environm...g-with-climate-hacking-to-prevent-catastrophe
OMG...The good old communist paper the Guardian again......The paper that exaggerates and distorts the truth by their own admission.......How can any one trust what they say now.
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