Re: OIL AGAIN!
Unrelated to that, I just re-read my previous post in reply to ithatheekret. Should have been a
in there somewhere otherwise it reads a bit harsh I think.
I wouldn't be too worried Smurf , this is only a debate , you put forward some valid points and we must remember that typing an answer in a post does not bring out the emphasis of a discussion as it would over a few drinks with friends .
Your points on depletion are well accepted , we'd be fools to think otherwise , it's just a shame that the top echelon ranks have limitless fools running around with outdated policies that they stick to like glue .
I'd prefer someone to argue their point , rather than have someone who follows the mantra of the top brass .
I could argue a point that I feel is closer to the truth on Iraq than the oil swoop ( Iraq ended up importing oil too ) , but the fact that it's head honcho chose to attempt to remove a President with extreme prejudice I believe the term goes , was an idiotic move on Sadmatts part. He thought he was a swinger , and that's exactly what he ended up doing . But the fact that a small group of top shelf families are in control of a global asset whilst the rest of their populus are sidelined and live in sub human conditions is a nasty truth . Which in one way or another , we are all complicit to the act at some level . All for the sake of driving around in guzzling cars and the simplicity of which technological advances have taken our nations too .
I take for granted the fact that I can simply turn a switch to attain light and warmth etc. , etc.
I look at Indonesia and note the land that is being taken up for palm oil , sure it's used for dishwashing liquids etc., but the fact that it makes a fantastic alternative fuel does not escape me . The cost of the venture may be well measured in dollars , but ...... the real cost is hidden in living standards .
I don't see too many OPEC nations following the lead , instead they're building airports and hotels etc., chucking in the odd desalination plant here and there . Great lot of good it will do them when they finally have nothing to sell us except dates .
Strewth even the Kiwis have come up with an alternative for avgas and bloody good one 'em too , shame they can't play cricket or rugby yet
( tongue in cheek )
If we look at the OPEC nations , pick any one of them and I'll show you a western nation that exports more oil to the US burn off than that member does . That nation is Canada . So how long until the depletion factor comes home to roost there ?
No , you keep the posts coming mate , I'm thick skinned and if I'm wrong will be the first to admit it , after all it's no use following a flawed theory and I will change my views once proven wrong . It's just a shame we can't get administrations to do so also .
I listen to that Obama chap and like some of the things he has to say , but I feel that a country that is built around military supremacy should have a military minded leader at the helm . The US hasn't had one of those for eons .
If we look at the nofly zone that was in place after the Kuwait invasion , the costs there would have been outrageous , but they had to do something to contain the situation . If it was me who had the say so , I would have simply got Congress to change a simple ruling and allowed a covert force to extract the problem .
The way one great leader of Iraq was disposed of was nothing but barbaric , since that day in 1963 there has been constant turmoil , which had been in the making since the British occupations in the middle east .
A quote that I have always remembered " you can always rent an Arab , but you can never buy one " , seems to have been lost an many an administration .
To see how backwards the middle east has gone over the centuries is amazing , streets of main cities there were lined with gas lamps , whilst Londoners were still walking around with candles . But technological advancement helped to quell the forward thinking , it was a military one , which was seized upon and turned on each of the squabbling tribes one by one , until those who wanted control finally got it .
There have been many advancements made throughout history , but each one that was pushed to the side was done by one group intent on their own train of thought ( profits ) , one that predates most governments and theories . The result as usual was higher costs and lower living standards .
So perhaps and just perhaps , the day they finally run out of oil , we will see peace in the middle east , but don't hold your breath waiting for it . If it does happen the western world will probably be paying a sun tax on solar systems by then .
Could you imagine what would happen if certain middle eastern countries got caught in a land rights situation as many of the western world nations have ?