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Well Trump was right about NATO and especially the EU being in a military vacuum, they are now contradicting each other.
I wonder how Trump will be blamed for the mess that is happening in Europe at the moment.
Apparently Macron suggested sending troops couldn't be ruled out, but Germany said it is ruled out.

www.abc.net.au

NATO allies say they won't send troops to Ukraine, after reports of some Western countries considering it

The confirmation comes after French President Emmanuel Macron earlier said sending troops should not be "ruled out".
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au
From the article:
  • In short: NATO allies have confirmed they won't be sending troops to Ukraine, after reports that some Western countries were considering doing so.
  • The Kremlin has warned that a direct conflict between NATO and Russia would be inevitable if the alliance sends combat troops.
  • What's next? President Emmanuel Macron said a new coalition will be launched to deliver medium and long-range missiles.
European military heavyweights Germany and Poland say they will not send troops to Ukraine, after reports that some Western countries may be considering doing so as the war with Russia enters its third year.

The head of NATO also said the US-led military alliance had no plans to send troops to Ukraine, after other central European leaders confirmed that they too would not be providing soldiers.

Meanwhile, the Kremlin warned that a direct conflict between NATO and Russia would be inevitable if the alliance sent combat troops.

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz appeared to have a different view of what happened in Paris.

He said the participants had agreed "that there will be no ground troops, no soldiers on Ukrainian soil who are sent there by European states or NATO states".

Mr Scholz said there was also consensus "that soldiers operating in our countries also are not participating actively in the war themselves".

With Mr Macron increasingly looking isolated and opposition politicians in France furiously critical of his suggestion that ground troops might be considered, the French president's government subsequently sought on Tuesday to clarify his comments.

French Defence Minister Sébastien Lecornu said there had been discussions but no consensus at the conference about carrying out de-mining and military training operations in Ukraine, away from the front lines.

"It's not sending troops to wage war against Russia," the minister said.
 
sptrawler said:
Well Trump was right about NATO and especially the EU being in a military vacuum, they are now contradicting each other.
I wonder how Trump will be blamed for the mess that is happening in Europe at the moment.
Apparently Macron suggested sending troops couldn't be ruled out, but Germany said it is ruled out.

www.abc.net.au

NATO allies say they won't send troops to Ukraine, after reports of some Western countries considering it

The confirmation comes after French President Emmanuel Macron earlier said sending troops should not be "ruled out".
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au
From the article:
  • In short: NATO allies have confirmed they won't be sending troops to Ukraine, after reports that some Western countries were considering doing so.
  • The Kremlin has warned that a direct conflict between NATO and Russia would be inevitable if the alliance sends combat troops.
  • What's next? President Emmanuel Macron said a new coalition will be launched to deliver medium and long-range missiles.
European military heavyweights Germany and Poland say they will not send troops to Ukraine, after reports that some Western countries may be considering doing so as the war with Russia enters its third year.

The head of NATO also said the US-led military alliance had no plans to send troops to Ukraine, after other central European leaders confirmed that they too would not be providing soldiers.

Meanwhile, the Kremlin warned that a direct conflict between NATO and Russia would be inevitable if the alliance sent combat troops.

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz appeared to have a different view of what happened in Paris.

He said the participants had agreed "that there will be no ground troops, no soldiers on Ukrainian soil who are sent there by European states or NATO states".

Mr Scholz said there was also consensus "that soldiers operating in our countries also are not participating actively in the war themselves".

With Mr Macron increasingly looking isolated and opposition politicians in France furiously critical of his suggestion that ground troops might be considered, the French president's government subsequently sought on Tuesday to clarify his comments.

French Defence Minister Sébastien Lecornu said there had been discussions but no consensus at the conference about carrying out de-mining and military training operations in Ukraine, away from the front lines.

"It's not sending troops to wage war against Russia," the minister said.
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Always hated NATO run by the US Monarchy #@$%!
 
Mr. Trump, that odious Bronze Loon, has drawn further ahead of Ms. Haley the retired diplomat.

Oops. Sleepy Joe fell again.

What a shock.

gg
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
Mr. Trump, that odious Bronze Loon, has drawn further ahead of Ms. Haley the retired diplomat.

Oops. Sleepy Joe fell again.

What a shock.

gg
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I think you are misreading the situation GG. Sure Trump was going to get a majority of Republician voters in a Primary. The real concer for him is where the 30-40% of Republicans who rejected Trump to vote for Haley will go. Like will they just roll over and decide to vote for Trump at the end of the year ?

Haley is running on the basis that Trump should not and cannot win the Presidency.

Should not because he is basically a chaotic and dangerous person who will not do the right thing by the people and the country.

Cannot (she thinks) because she believes at least 10-20% of the Republican Party would agree with that view and will not vote for Trump as President - even if they vote for other Republicans down the ticket.

So Trump certainly has a powerful hold over many, many people. They believe anything he says. But will those MAGA zealots be sufficient to win the required votes ?
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
Mr. Trump, that odious Bronze Loon, has drawn further ahead of Ms. Haley the retired diplomat.

Oops. Sleepy Joe fell again.

What a shock.

gg
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When you think about it, democracy does not serve the people well atm. Majority rule by a tiny majority/minority on the right or left does not produce good leaders.

A benign dictatorship would be preferable.

Trump and the other demented idiot will not serve the US well no matter which wins. I do not see Biden as being "preferable". He is as much a descent in to madness as ole loon Trump is.

gg
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
When you think about it, democracy does not serve the people well atm. Majority rule by a tiny majority/minority on the right or left does not produce good leaders.

A benign dictatorship would be preferable.

Trump and the other demented idiot will not serve the US well no matter which wins. I do not see Biden as being "preferable". He is as much a descent in to madness as ole loon Trump is.

gg
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History has already proven you correct, things haven't improved under Joe, if anything they are worse.

Time for a complete shakeup of multinational company run democracies and head back to a public service focused Government, that provide essential services, rather than facilitate private sector gouging IMO.
 
sptrawler said:
History has already proven you correct, things haven't improved under Joe, if anything they are worse.

Time for a complete shakeup of multinational company run democracies and head back to a public service focused Government, that provide essential services, rather than facilitate private sector gouging IMO.
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So how would see the government formed SP/GG ? How would it be accountable ? Who would it be accountable to ? Could it ever be thrown out of office for incompetence, laziness, corruption or simply because it had become stale and slack ?

What is the likelihood that a small group of very rich/powerful people end up forming such a government and create laws that just happen to overwhelmingly suit their interest ? Perhaps something like an old fashioned aristocracy or wealthy squatters ?

The US Republic was set up and thought about how they might fashion a government that was largely based on the Divine Right of Kings. Not necessarily a full democracy but with checks and balances to prevent the rise of despots.
 
basilio said:
What is the likelihood that a small group of very rich/powerful people end up forming such a government and create laws that just happen to overwhelmingly suit their interest ? Perhaps something like an old fashioned aristocracy or wealthy squatters ?
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This is what is happening now.
 
moXJO said:
This is what is happening now.
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Right... :cautious:

And you can just see the shining light of Donald Trump making the US a fairer, more equitable, generous and prosperous nation ?

I posed a reasonable question. Any possibility of a thoughtful response ?
 
basilio said:
Right... :cautious:

And you can just see the shining light of Donald Trump making the US a fairer, more equitable, generous and prosperous nation ?

I posed a reasonable question. Any possibility of a thoughtful response ?
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Big multinationals are already in cahoots with the government. The evidence runs very deep.

In my opinion RFK is the only shot at moving somewhat away from the cesspool it is now.

Trump was a tool of change in 2016 and he did indeed change the trajectory of the way people viewed the government, media and the lengths at which they were willing to push agendas. I just don't think he will win.
 
moXJO said:
In my opinion RFK is the only shot at moving somewhat away from the cesspool it is now.
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By all accounts he is a cesspool of his own aka fake Kennedy.

Trump was only ever a tool for the Religious Republican NJ's Supreme Court as evidence.

AKA useful idiot
 
IFocus said:
By all accounts he is a cesspool of his own aka fake Kennedy.

Trump was only ever a tool for the Religious Republican NJ's Supreme Court as evidence.

AKA useful idiot
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And yet here we are with massively changed perceptions of our governments.

Lay your dirt on rfk I'm interested in what it is.
 
basilio said:
So how would see the government formed SP/GG ? How would it be accountable ? Who would it be accountable to ? Could it ever be thrown out of office for incompetence, laziness, corruption or simply because it had become stale and slack ?

What is the likelihood that a small group of very rich/powerful people end up forming such a government and create laws that just happen to overwhelmingly suit their interest ? Perhaps something like an old fashioned aristocracy or wealthy squatters ?

The US Republic was set up and thought about how they might fashion a government that was largely based on the Divine Right of Kings. Not necessarily a full democracy but with checks and balances to prevent the rise of despots.
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You will find out first hand Bas, when we become a republic. 🤣
 

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