More Religious Nuts

[2020hindsight]

On a lighter side (Far Side in fact)
"And you were worried they wouldn't like Americans.
Why these people just lit up when I explained we were Virginians"

 

[2020hindsight]

How widespread is this nonsense ? lol
well Sarah Palin's minister was a successful witch hunter

Returned triumphant from Kenya after routing out the bloke responsible for all the recent traffic accidents, lol . :silly:

Specualtion at the time that she was too far round the bend, even for Alaskans (refer youtube on this link:-
https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=365352

And no doubt the ridicule has had something to do with her recent err "abdication"

 

[gooner]

Likewise , )another program, forget where) - female circumcision in Egypt and other moslem countries. A few bleed to death of course.

In one family of 5 girls, the father was pondering whether to get the youngest 2 "done" ( clitoris destroyed) - as their 3 older sisters had been "done' - more "21st century" if you like - and suggested that to the wife. (Who of course was also done).

But the mother insisted upon it! arguing "Who will marry these girls??
(implied .. what ?// - who would marry them because they can have an orgasm??)

Why a women would voluntarily become a Muslim beats me.

Again it has been made illegal, but still massively widestread especially in the rural areas.

Related Story
http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2005/05/13/1368020.htm

Another unrelated Story :-
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/07/08/2619602.htm

Not religion - then again , initiation into a cult often has religious overtones.

That is sick

But bear in mind that genital mutilation is legal in Australia. It is know as male circumcision here.

 

[bunyip]

Here is "a practising Christian all my life and a deacon and Bible teacher for many years" speaking his mind about religious cruelty.

A past US president, no less....

The words of God do not justify cruelty to women

What a great article by Jimmy Carter. It takes character to challenge traditional religious beliefs - you invariably get attacked and ridiculed for doing so.
I always liked Jimmy and knew he was a man of integrity and character, but now he rises even higher in my estimation.

 

[Tink]

Sing Hallelujah, sing it

Hallelujah

Happy People Come on : )

 

[trainspotter]

From the link weird provided:- http://home.uchicago.edu/~psheaton/workingpapers/religionandcrime.pdf

I use exogenous potential variation in religiosity generated by the occurrence of the Easter holiday to obtain further evidence regarding the relationship between religion and crime. If there is a negative effect of religion on crime and the substantial increases in church attendance in the United States on Easter represent a temporary increase in religiosity, one might expect to observe lower crime rates immediately following Easter. I find that crime rates are slightly higher for most categories of crime in the first 4 weeks after Easter, controlling for seasonal and other factors, although these increases are not statistically significant.

Could not resist. I promise this is the last gasp effort of a drowning man. "It's over to you back in central missionary position" .. "It's central commentary position you dimwit" Taken from the 12th Man and tidied up a bit just for this place.

 

[Glen48]

This was written by a Brisbane Doctor why he bothered I don't know:

 

[bunyip]

Sunder

I'm still waiting for your answers to my questions....

1. How do you know that God exists?

2. If he does exist, who or what created him?

These are confronting questions I know, but they're nevertheless relevant and are worthy of answers.

Confronting questions cause some people to run and hide.
Others with more character face them head on and do their best to answer them.

 

[Buckeroo]

That is sick

But bear in mind that genital mutilation is legal in Australia. It is know as male circumcision here.

I have to jump in here, I have a theory on this...after world war 2, to ensure the Jews were never persecuted ever again, the allies decided to circumcise every male - then nobody could tell us apart.

They obviously said it was because of health issues to mask the ultimate reason.

What do you reckon?

Cheers

 

[Buckeroo]

Sunder

I'm still waiting for your answers to my questions....

1. How do you know that God exists?

2. If he does exist, who or what created him?

These are confronting questions I know, but they're nevertheless relevant and are worthy of answers.

Confronting questions cause some people to run and hide.
Others with more character face them head on and do their best to answer them.

How about these Bunyip

1. How do you really know if the theory of relativity exists - folding space & time? Have trouble getting a handle on this

2. How about black holes - could be little space creatures eating light & matter

3. UFO's?

I think in the end its a matter of faith - I have faith that the scientists are right...religious people have faith that god exists.

Cheers

 

[pilots]

I have to jump in here, I have a theory on this...after world war 2, to ensure the Jews were never persecuted ever again, the allies decided to circumcise every male - then nobody could tell us apart.

They obviously said it was because of health issues to mask the ultimate reason.

What do you reckon?

Cheers

Look at it this way, two people apply for the same job, one has his sleeves rolled up, the other one has them down, most women can see that the man with his sleeves rolled up has come ready for work. FACT.

 

[2020hindsight]

Look at it this way, two people apply for the same job, one has his sleeves rolled up, the other one has them down, most women can see that the man with his sleeves rolled up has come ready for work. FACT.

Lol ...

Still, you'd think with 36 boys dying during 1 month that they might let em keep their sleeves rolled down. After all, we're not talking about digging a trench under a hot sun here

PS always assuming that it didn't fall off as a result of the op. Here's the rest of that article on post #440 :-

Botched initiation ceremonies in the South African province of the Eastern Cape have killed at least 36 teenage boys over the past month.

In one case, a teenager was admitted to hospital after his gangrenous penis fell off.

Winter in South Africa is a time when traditional circumcisions are performed on teenage boys as a rite of passage.

But this year health authorities have been alarmed by the number of botched circumcisions that have ended in death.

The 36 boys died of complications from the procedure including dehydration, hypothermia and excessive bleeding.

Circumcision initiations are traditionally observed mostly by the Xhosa clan in the Eastern Cape and undertaken with handcrafted surgical tools and without the use of anaesthetics.

PS They used to say that the original Speedo budgie-smugglers were so thin that you could not only tell what sex the wearer was, but also what religion.

 

[bunyip]

How about these Bunyip

1. How do you really know if the theory of relativity exists - folding space & time? Have trouble getting a handle on this

2. How about black holes - could be little space creatures eating light & matter

3. UFO's?

I think in the end its a matter of faith - I have faith that the scientists are right...religious people have faith that god exists.

Cheers

Yes, I know they have faith that God exists. What I'd like to know is, on what basis?
And since they believe that God exists, they surely must have thought about how God came into existence, who or what created him.

I'll be very interested to hear Sunder's views on this....I'm sure he has enough character to attempt an answer.

 

[pilots]

Yes, I know they have faith that God exists. What I'd like to know is, on what basis?
And since they believe that God exists, they surely must have thought about how God came into existence, who or what created him.

I'll be very interested to hear Sunder's views on this....I'm sure he has enough character to attempt an answer.

When I worked for the Americans the best way to push some buttons was to say that God was black and she was not happy with what we was doing.

 

[darkside]

Sing Hallelujah, sing it

Hallelujah

Happy People Come on : )

Tink , once again if you promise not to tell anyone, you and i could do an Enya medley.>

 

[andione1983]

The thing i find frustrating with religion, is that everyone thinks they are right, and that their way to God is the right way. and then you have the extremists, that say if you don't do it my way its either convert or be killed,

so out of every single denomination and religion (according to a wikipedia as of 1988 there were in excess of 33,000 denominations of some type in Protestantism) and in the world up to 19 major world religions, and 270 large religious organizations, where do you go??? Religion over-complicates things and only creates havoc, and confusion within people.

I myself am a self confessing Christian, the only reason being is that i find it quite easy to believe in a God who created the world, but i am not going to force you to believe the way i do, as i have studied, and look at other people, we all think we are doing the right thing. Its your personal relationship in the end no one else's.

For those of you who are bagging out people that believe in God as uneducated, and not smart. I disagree totally, because we all got here some how, and whether you choose to believe in evolution or creation, the facts are there to support either belief, and we cannot prove either because we were never there to see it. So either way you believe it takes faith of some sort to believe in what you have been told.

So yes i do believe in GOD, and how you get to God, depends on your sincerity in your beliefs.

its not up to us to judge on how other religions/denominations do things.
i can speak from personal experience, as i have been brought up and been to many different churches over my 26 years of life, and yes i have seen very extreme stuff, and very one eyed theology's, and the more i look at the theology that man has made for himself the more i can see the flaws in it, we so often make things more complicated than what things really are.


hope to hear your opinions......

 

[trainspotter]

When I worked for the Americans the best way to push some buttons was to say that God was black and she was not happy with what we was doing.

Well done pilots. I laughed so hard my ribs hurt. I also brought up a bit of lung.

 

[darkside]

The thing i find frustrating with religion, is that everyone thinks they are right, and that their way to God is the right way. and then you have the extremists, that say if you don't do it my way its either convert or be killed,

so out of every single denomination and religion (according to a wikipedia as of 1988 there were in excess of 33,000 denominations of some type in Protestantism) and in the world up to 19 major world religions, and 270 large religious organizations, where do you go??? Religion over-complicates things and only creates havoc, and confusion within people.

I myself am a self confessing Christian, the only reason being is that i find it quite easy to believe in a God who created the world, but i am not going to force you to believe the way i do, as i have studied, and look at other people, we all think we are doing the right thing. Its your personal relationship in the end no one else's.

For those of you who are bagging out people that believe in God as uneducated, and not smart. I disagree totally, because we all got here some how, and whether you choose to believe in evolution or creation, the facts are there to support either belief, and we cannot prove either because we were never there to see it. So either way you believe it takes faith of some sort to believe in what you have been told.

So yes i do believe in GOD, and how you get to God, depends on your sincerity in your beliefs.

its not up to us to judge on how other religions/denominations do things.
i can speak from personal experience, as i have been brought up and been to many different churches over my 26 years of life, and yes i have seen very extreme stuff, and very one eyed theology's, and the more i look at the theology that man has made for himself the more i can see the flaws in it, we so often make things more complicated than what things really are.


hope to hear your opinions......

Andione1983, good honest post, i do like that live and let live attitude, and believe that many others on this forum will certainly agree with your sentiment.
And i strongly beleive that we all tend to make things harder and more complicated than we need to .

Respect .

 

[bunyip]

For those of you who are bagging out people that believe in God as uneducated, and not smart. I disagree totally, because we all got here some how, and whether you choose to believe in evolution or creation, the facts are there to support either belief, and we cannot prove either because we were never there to see it. So either way you believe it takes faith of some sort to believe in what you have been told.

I'd be very interested in hearing what facts are there to support the creation theory.

I spent the first 25 years of my life as a regular at church, had in depth private discussions with men who were highly qualified in the area of Theology, I read the Bible at length, attended Bible study classes for quite some time.
I've had quite strong friendships with ministers of religion with whom I discussed this issue many times.
At no time did I manage to dredge up even one single fact to support the theory that God created the world and everything in it including the human race.

 

[trainspotter]

WHOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA up there bullocks.

andione 1983 posted this "whether you choose to believe in evolution or creation, the facts are there to support either belief"

This means he has a foot in both camps Bunyip. I admire that you spent 25 years studying theology (Are you a priest?)

The status quo is that BOTH sides have a relevant argument. PERSONALLY ... I find it hard that some almighty being (GOD) made the universe, humans, animals, and all the known black holes in 6 days ... and suddenly got tired on the 7th day??

"Yawn ... I have done as much as I can, gosh .. might have a nana nap now" AND "Hey honey, grab me a beer will ya ... I been working so HARD creating this universe thingy"

Get my drift?