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This goes against my better judgement BUT ... Bump away weird ... please ... bump away. You are like a one trick pony.

You can repeat yourself over and over again. And so can I.

atheist  / ey-thee-ist]

noun ~ a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings.

Has nothing to do with unbiased research and statistics. No matter how many times you repeat it. The end result is STILL the same.

I have asked you how do you want me to QUANTIFY the research parameters you are requesting and how far back is required? ie Define CRIME

Are you looking for an equation or a just a number ?

I also asked for you to read the topic of the THREAD and not some quasi-position you are trying to justify yourself in. MORE RELIGIOUS NUT JOBS.

If you look in the SENTENCING IN AUSTRALIA IS A DISGRACE thread you will see many "crimes" committed by NON RELIGION PEOPLE :eek:
 
trainspotter said:
This goes against my better judgement BUT ... Bump away weird ... please ... bump away. You are like a one trick pony.

You can repeat yourself over and over again. And so can I.

atheist  / ey-thee-ist]

noun ~ a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings.

Has nothing to do with unbiased research and statistics. No matter how many times you repeat it. The end result is STILL the same.

I have asked you how do you want me to QUANTIFY the research parameters you are requesting and how far back is required? ie Define CRIME

Are you looking for an equation or a just a number ?

I also asked for you to read the topic of the THREAD and not some quasi-position you are trying to justify yourself in. MORE RELIGIOUS NUT JOBS.

If you look in the SENTENCING IN AUSTRALIA IS A DISGRACE thread you will see many "crimes" committed by NON RELIGION PEOPLE :eek:
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Sorry mate, no trick, believe it is a question asked with no responding answer ... as most getting annoyed reading crap posts ... anyhow if that is how atheists want to be represented ...

Bring some unbiased research and statistics (I thought this is what atheists based their beliefs on ?) to the table, as mentioned before, crime committed by religious people vs non religious.
 
Sorry to BORE the CRAP out of the other posters but here goes:

Oh dear ... it seems you are unable to respond to the simplest of requests are you? No matter how many times you try and push the button you cannot get your point across. Not happy with this, you have now decided to make yourself the "spokesman" of the thread and have suggested that my posts have descended into the toilet and that "most" are getting annoyed somehow.

I remember when I had a this guy in my employ once and he never stopped asking the question why? "Can you please explain yourself?" I would ask and the response was "why?" It seems you fit this bill quite nicely. I think he lasted until about lunch time before he no longer was working for me.

Now I will explain it yet again. An atheist does not believe in any diety/God or supreme being. Nothing to do with statistics as you seem so fond of.

I have repeatedly asked WHAT parameters you would like this information based on and yet a NIL response. The task you have set is indefinable by it's very nature as there is no (X x Y) + (a - b) equation for your request.

It seems that you have locked onto the one thing that is unable to be produced in your mind. I have given you "incidents" and "one offs" which apparently are not suitable for your consumption. SO rather than my good self wasting all my time and energy vomiting in this thread (by the way, who made you God?) about religion crimes VS non religion crimes why don't you go and do the Google rummage yourself?

Exactly what are you bringing to the table by the way? Other than the same repetitive posts about (I thought this is what atheists based their beliefs on ?) This somehow is your base argument? I am not the only one who has posted that I am against religious crimes (not trying to deflect here) but it seems you have decided to be the "bigdog" and take on this task all by yourself. Much to my pleasure I must say. Ohhhh if only rederob were here to read this. Just for the record, I am also against crimes against humanity FULL STOP no matter who they are procured by.

Ooooooooooooh alright then, here, I will throw you a bone:-

http://caribbeanfever.com/forum/index.php?action=printpage;topic=1863.0

Statistics on religious vs non religious crimes
 
trainspotter said:
Sorry to BORE the CRAP out of the other posters but here goes:

Oh dear ... it seems you are unable to respond to the simplest of requests are you? No matter how many times you try and push the button you cannot get your point across. Not happy with this, you have now decided to make yourself the "spokesman" of the thread and have suggested that my posts have descended into the toilet and that "most" are getting annoyed somehow.

I remember when I had a this guy in my employ once and he never stopped asking the question why? "Can you please explain yourself?" I would ask and the response was "why?" It seems you fit this bill quite nicely. I think he lasted until about lunch time before he no longer was working for me.

Now I will explain it yet again. An atheist does not believe in any diety/God or supreme being. Nothing to do with statistics as you seem so fond of.

I have repeatedly asked WHAT parameters you would like this information based on and yet a NIL response. The task you have set is indefinable by it's very nature as there is no (X x Y) + (a - b) equation for your request.

It seems that you have locked onto the one thing that is unable to be produced in your mind. I have given you "incidents" and "one offs" which apparently are not suitable for your consumption. SO rather than my good self wasting all my time and energy vomiting in this thread (by the way, who made you God?) about religion crimes VS non religion crimes why don't you go and do the Google rummage yourself?

Exactly what are you bringing to the table by the way? Other than the same repetitive posts about (I thought this is what atheists based their beliefs on ?) This somehow is your base argument? I am not the only one who has posted that I am against religious crimes (not trying to deflect here) but it seems you have decided to be the "bigdog" and take on this task all by yourself. Much to my pleasure I must say. Ohhhh if only rederob were here to read this. Just for the record, I am also against crimes against humanity FULL STOP no matter who they are procured by.

Ooooooooooooh alright then, here, I will throw you a bone:-

http://caribbeanfever.com/forum/index.php?action=printpage;topic=1863.0

Statistics on religious vs non religious crimes
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Filler again ... boring ... thanks for wasting time again ... is the previous post satisfactory in reading any stock update ?

Bring some unbiased research and statistics (I thought this is what atheists based their beliefs on ?) to the table, as mentioned before, crime committed by religious people vs non religious.
 
Trainspotter and Weird

Your exchange is getting repetitive and getting nowhere. It would appear that some of the sentences are now being cut and pasted from previous posts.

Please take it to another thread, if you wish, and let this one get back on topic (found in the opening post).

Thanks
 
LMAO at weird now. Very funny I must admit. Click on the link and get some stats about religion and crime vs non religion and crime. Ooops , this is what you asked for?

Thanks Timmy ... will do Mildew !!
 
Timmy said:
Trainspotter and Weird

Your exchange is getting repetitive and getting nowhere. It would appear that some of the sentences are now being cut and pasted from previous posts.

Please take it to another thread, if you wish, and let this one get back on topic (found in the opening post).

Thanks
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Sorry Timmy, won't because have not yet seen ,

bring some unbiased research and statistics (I thought this is what atheists based their beliefs on ?) to the table, as mentioned before, crime committed by religious people vs non religious.

I keep repeating it because it has not yet been proven in any evidence provided.

Btw, Trainspotter, anyone can produce a website these days, what is the source ?

Trainspotter tried to show some 'references' but none had unbiased or unsubstantiated stats, if that is how you want to trade, based on such evidence, heaven forbid on the bigger things in life.
 
LOLOL @ weird. Good on ya ! I dips me lid to ya.

The links were written by professors. Pfffffffffttt . No bias here. You could not have possibly read ALL of the info on the websites in such a short time.

LMAOooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ! Goodnight.
 
Trainspotter, yes I did read what you presented, the first url did not load, and the second url said it was inconclusive ? Why paste inclusive material and continue to argue a particular view, why are you wasting our time ?

As I said before,

bring some unbiased research and statistics (I thought this is what atheists based their beliefs on ?) to the table, as mentioned before, crime committed by religious people vs non religious.

Also raw numbers without normalizing is a bad comparison ...
 
Weird, this continued cut and paste posting is just trolling. It needs to stop now please.
 
I'm sick of it too Timmy ... this thread has a sense of 'ism about it which I do not believe is healthy ...
 
gooner said:
Timmy

Christians and atheists can quite happily drink beer in Malaysia, but if you are born a Muslim, it is a crime.

Also in Malaysia, Muslims can not convert to Christianity as this is considered apostasy.

The concept of free will is very much a Western concept it seems.
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This is a Catch22 isn't it?
 
darkside said:
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=830145

What is it about religion that makes people believe it justifies any level of cruelty.
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Criminal, this exorcism stuff.

Anyone see 4 corners about 2 months ago?

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/content/2009/s2601755.htm

This is arguably worse - they mutilate kids for witchcraft in Nigeria because their family has had some bad luck ( like their parent has died :eek: ), or the fishing is getting worse (when it is really due to the oil slicks from clumsy drilling off the coast.

An Aussie over there trying to save these kids from their village elders . Imagine the trauma of being outcast, branded a witch - at the age of 4 or 5 or even teenager! - SHEESH.

They are encouraged to scrawl in big letters , "We Are Not Witches".

And the story revolves around a lill girl named Mary (photo below) - starts off she can't even smile - but the story concludes with her living amongst the other kids at this orphanage - and BEAMING this DAZZLING smile at the camera. :)

Obviously she has a long way to go in the recuperation stakes, but she's doing well so far.

One kid at there had a broken arm for 5 weeks - but not just any brokrn arm. - the bone had been sticking out into the air by a good 3 inches!

They have made it illegal, but only a handful of the "witch-hunter priests" have been prosecuted.
 

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Likewise , )another program, forget where) - female circumcision in Egypt and other moslem countries. A few bleed to death of course.

In one family of 5 girls, the father was pondering whether to get the youngest 2 "done" ( clitoris destroyed) - as their 3 older sisters had been "done' - more "21st century" if you like - and suggested that to the wife. (Who of course was also done).

But the mother insisted upon it! arguing "Who will marry these girls??
(implied .. what ?// - who would marry them because they can have an orgasm??) :confused:

Why a women would voluntarily become a Muslim beats me. :eek::eek:

Again it has been made illegal, but still massively widestread especially in the rural areas.

Related Story
http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2005/05/13/1368020.htm

Another unrelated Story :-
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/07/08/2619602.htm
Penis falls off in fatal circumcision
By Africa correspondent Andrew Geoghegan

Posted Wed Jul 8, 2009 1:08am AEST

Botched initiation ceremonies in the South African province of the Eastern Cape have killed at least 36 teenage boys over the past month. ...
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Not religion - then again , initiation into a cult often has religious overtones.
 

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