Islam: Is it inherently Evil?

[SirRumpole]

When's the last time those country invaded any other country?

China invaded Tibet
Russia invaded Ukraine
North Korea is just plain barking mad and could launch missiles at South Korea any time
Syria is the cause of the most bloody war in decades

Surely you don't dismiss these as "hiccups" do you ?

 

[Value Collector]

The 'he was a Christian' tag is complete b.s.
If they practice the religion, no matter what branch, they are Muslim. To say they are not real Muslims is a lie.

Explain why the Christian tag is bs

You seem to be saying "all Muslims are Muslims, regardless of what branch so all are responsible, but you are only a considered Christian if you do these nice things which I like, if you don't do these nice things and do bad instead I will not hold you responsible as a Christian.

It's a version of the no true Scotsman fallacy.

Anyone that does bad, you automatically say "well they can't be a Christian" so you editing out the Christian bad guys, but you are prepared to lump all the Muslim guys regardless of what sect they are from

 

[Value Collector]

If you are a Muslim, you would know the Koran backwards......If you are a Muslim you believe in Sharia law.

So by that definition, there aren't many Muslims at all, because just like the bible, most Muslims don't read the qu'ran, and a lot of them don't believe in sharia law.

 

[Value Collector]

I haven't heard of any cases in Australia of Christians burning alleged "witches".

I haven't heard of any cases of Muslims beheading people in Australia either, but you still use that against them.

 

[noco]

So by that definition, there aren't many Muslims at all, because just like the bible, most Muslims don't read the qu'ran, and a lot of them don't believe in sharia law.

In that case they are not Muslims.

 

[noco]

I haven't heard of any cases of Muslims beheading people in Australia either, but you still use that against them.

Not yet, but it will happen sooner or later....It really does not matter whether they kill by beheading, car bombing, suicide bombers or being mowed down by a car all they want to do is kill Christians and Infidels.

With all these demonstrations and rioting happening almost on a daily basis. it is only a matter of time when their will be an uprising of Australian civilians taking the law into their own hands...It is already happening in some parts of Europe.

That is when a civil war on Muslims will begin.

 

[SirRumpole]

I haven't heard of any cases of Muslims beheading people in Australia either, but you still use that against them.

What about Curtis Cheng, killed by a Muslim outside Parramatta police station, Lindt Cafe , Muslim man attacks policemen with knife. Off duty soldier beheaded by Muslims in Britain ?

Don't you watch the news ?

 

[Tisme]

I haven't heard of any cases of Muslims beheading people in Australia either, but you still use that against them.

You haven't been following the news lately where the coppers thwarted a planned beheading?

 

[Tisme]

In that case they are not Muslims.

Perhaps not, but just like disenchanted or disinterested Liberal Party supporters who haven't got a clue what the party manifesto is, they will defend it as if like a reflex and blame Labor for the stink.

 

[Value Collector]

Not yet, but it will happen sooner or later....It really does not matter whether they kill by beheading, car bombing, suicide bombers or being mowed down by a car

Have any of those happened in Australia yet?

What about Curtis Cheng, killed by a Muslim outside Parramatta police station, Lindt Cafe , Muslim man attacks policemen with knife.

Yeah, but you specifically mentioned one form of christian violence, e.g. burning witches, and asked if it had happened in Australia, obviously the answer is no, but the answer is also no when asked about specific forms of muslim violence.

Off duty soldier beheaded by Muslims in Britain ?

Don't you watch the news ?

Well the Canadian christian crusader killed 6 muslims.

Why is it that within minutes of that attack the media called it Terrorism when they thought the attacker was muslim, but when they found out he was a white christian they dropped the terrorist label???

I think thats an important question, and relates to how we think of muslims, which is unfair.

 

[Value Collector]

You haven't been following the news lately where the coppers thwarted a planned beheading?

Good so our intelligence agencies are doing their job, I can't see how this means we should ban all muslims.

 

[Tisme]

Good so our intelligence agencies are doing their job, I can't see how this means we should ban all muslims.

So when they do succeed, you will be calling the family to tell them it's ok and not to fret because not all Muslims bad guys only a few and we should learn to accept that?

Bad apples in a bag of apples will contaminate the good apples. If you can't separate out the two you throw the bag & contents away, but most people just throw out the lot just incase.

I still don't trust Catholic Irishmen won't blow some family up in Australia, let alone a bunch of highly susceptible to religious suggestion people who parade their distinction in uniform as a snub and offence to us worthless Kafirs.

 

[Value Collector]

So when they do succeed, you will be calling the family to tell them it's ok and not to fret because not all Muslims bad guys only a few and we should learn to accept that?

As long as you ae going to call all the victims of alcohol violence and drink driving and tell them not to fret because not all drinkers are bad guys only a few and we should learn to accept that? because you will be making phone calls all the time, a lot more than me.

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What you have to revise is that my argument is that islamic violence among those we have allowed in is so rare, that I don't think we should mistreat all muslims, thats all I am saying, I can't see why you think mistreating all muslims will some how lower our risk any further than it already is, I mean its so low that it is almost non existent.

It is much lower than many of the other potential threats we live with, it just strikes at peoples emotions more

 

[Tisme]

As long as you ae going to call all the victims of alcohol violence and drink driving and tell them not to fret because not all drinkers are bad guys only a few and we should learn to accept that?

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What you have to revise is that my argument is that islamic violence among those we have allowed in is so rare, that I don't think we should mistreat all muslims, thats all I am saying, I can't see why you think mistreating all muslims will some how lower our risk any further than it already is, I mean its co low that it is almost non existent.

But alcoholics don't kneel down to the god Bacchus/Dionysus and proudly commit atrocities in his name. Also the Govt has stepped in and pings drink drivers, bans them from the driving society, etc. It's issues licences after minimal training and acceptance of the road rules.

We majority don't have two masters, because we accept our role as a nation. Forgiving people's social acquiescence, harmful intent and viscous actions because they embrace an alien nation and choose to ignore our rule of law as opposed to some made up blood lusting yarns only encourages more of the same.

The acid test is how you would react if you found your long off grand kids were being taught and indoctrinated into hate, detestation and disregard for anyone but a Muslim, because you decided only a few Muslims carry the disease, when infact they all carry it as willing followers.

 

[Wysiwyg]

Whatever happened to presumed innocent?

Why must anyone, from any group, must somehow prove themselves that they're against terrorists? We have to ask if they're for it or not? They have to go out of their way to prove that if they see anything, they'll definitely call?

No one must. Those filthy priests were covered up by their own in that other untrustworthy religion.
Which muslims are gonna go full literal in this country? The books words are (hopefully not) forever and a revert to literal will always be a threat to non muslims.

 

[Value Collector]

But alcoholics don't kneel down to the god Bacchus/Dionysus and proudly commit atrocities in his name.

So what? they do more damage to Australian society than terrorists at present

 

[SirRumpole]

So what? they do more damage to Australian society than terrorists at present

That can be reduced by increasing alcohol taxes resulting in less drinking or putting RBT's outside pubs and clubs.

Terrorism can be reduced by letting in less potential terrorists.

 

[Value Collector]

That can be reduced by increasing alcohol taxes resulting in less drinking or putting RBT's outside pubs and clubs.

Terrorism can be reduced by letting in less potential terrorists.

Thats why we have vetting of refugees and immigrants.

"Thats doesn't stop all potential threats" you will probably say, and no it doesn't but neither do RBT's and Taxes.

 

[SirRumpole]

Thats why we have vetting of refugees and immigrants.

Unfortunately that's not good enough. A lot of proven terrorists have been born here, but still carry the disease of indoctrination. Continuing Muslim immigration is like letting a lot of typhoid Marys into the country. You never know who they will infect, or if they will contract the disease themselves.

 

[dutchie]

Only 20% Of Europeans Want Muslim Immigration To Continue, 'Massive' Poll Finds

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-...uslim-immigration-continue-massive-poll-finds