Yeah I don't subscribe to the "religions are the main cause" for wars and deaths.
In some cases religions are the cause of war. Shiites vs Sunnis, Iraq v Iran etc. Millions of deaths in that war.
But mostly there are other reasons, resources being the main one, and psychopathic despotism.
We've been through this.
How many civil liberties and rights have been remove from us for this war on terror?
Anyway...
In some cases religions are the cause of war. Shiites vs Sunnis, Iraq v Iran etc. Millions of deaths in that war.
But mostly there are other reasons, resources being the main one, and psychopathic despotism.
Rumpy, back in the 30's we protestant kids were always fighting with the Catholic kids in the neighborhood.......Shangeyes where the weapon of the day.....Hard to believe but true....Religion once again the cause of the fighting.
See? Christians and White people weren't always buddies.
We were all white people Luu...Just at the time we hated each others guts......Both religions used to pray.....Pray for what and did praying help to make friends?....I think not at the time....One of the reasons I became agnostic.
There is only one Muslim and they are the ones who follow the Koran and I am sure you are well versed in how it reads....If you are not sure then do some research on the Koran and its interpretation of it's contents....It may be an eye opener for you.......
Same can be said for the Bible, can you think of anything objectionable in the Qu'ran (Koran) that isn't also represented in the Bible?
There is a lot of bad stuff in the OT, but from what I've seen most modern Christians ignore the OT and follow the NT.
Sure there are Christian and Jewish extremists, but they don't seem to be the ones doing the damage at the moment.
They love the Ten Commandments, and thats from the OT
The New Testament does say that gays a worthy of death, which when combined with the teaching of the OT, is pretty clear.
But just as most Jews and christians ignore the bad bits and try and explain them away, so do most muslims.
There is no NT in the Koran and there are enough hard line Muslims around to keep on causing problems around the world.
If the hard line Muslims take over the "moderates" will fall in line like sheep, because they will then have power over the infidels.
In reality the only answer is to treat the moderates well, showing them the benefits of secular society, while all along steadily slowing them to become less religious by debunking their religious claims.
Yes, that's fair enough, but there doesn't seem to be much debunking of religion going on by national leaders, it's more like politically correct nonsense about everyone's right to choose what they believe, even though a lot of them are held to a religion by fear and threats.
Most of our political leaders are simply afraid of religions and the power they hold over their voting congregations.
It sounds counter intuitive, but allowing people freedom to choose and practice their religion tends to make them take it less seriously, because when you see 20 different types of religions all believing different things, you start to have doubts, especially if the people you have been taught to few are polite and welcoming, if they sneer at you and look down on you, you retreat back to your core beliefs.
There is a lot of bad stuff in the OT, but from what I've seen most modern Christians ignore the OT and follow the NT.
Sure there are Christian and Jewish extremists, but they don't seem to be the ones doing the damage at the moment.
Our Christian heritage is not a religion.
I have no interest in your religion of PC, therefore I will be saying whatever I choose.
Political correctness - the devil!
https://www.aussiestockforums.com/threads/political-correctness-the-devil.13663/
Sure I get that. The essential question that we are discussing though is whether we keep digging a hole for ourselves by admitting more people who could potentially be a problem.
Desensitising people from religion is going to take a long time, and it makes no sense to me to make that a bigger problem than we already have.
Rumpy, back in the 30's we protestant kids were always fighting with the Catholic kids in the neighborhood.......Shangeyes where the weapon of the day.....Hard to believe but true....Religion once again the cause of the fighting.
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