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Islam: Is it inherently Evil?

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qldfrog said:
very quiet as usual when facts are not PC.
Should we add the 300 deads in Sri Lanka to the tally of the green plague.
Or just carry on a vague confused pretend....
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The programming is actually quite clever and amazing, after Christchurch I had quite a few of my acquaintances claim that we (whitefella/notionally judeochristian) are worse than them (Islamists)....

To say that I had a few facts for them to ponder is an understatement.
 
MARKETWINNER said:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5286169/Woman-disgusted-Air-Asia-flight-crew-uniforms.html
I found it quite disgusting': Passenger writes open letter to Malaysian government complaining about Air Asia's revealing uniforms and 'short skirts'

https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news...sia-uniforms-are-ruining-malaysias-reputation
New Zealander says 'disgusting' AirAsia uniforms are ruining Malaysia's reputation
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It would appear this story is a load of bollox, aka fake news.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=dr+june+robertson+nz

gg
 
TIL that Sir Salman Rushdie still receives a "sort of Valentine's card" from Iran each year on 14 February letting him know the country has not forgotten the vow to kill him. No, Islam isn't violent.....

In reference to :

The publication of The Satanic Verses in September 1988 caused immediate controversy in the Islamic world because of what was seen by some to be an irreverent depiction of Muhammad. The title refers to a disputed Muslim tradition that is related in the book. According to this tradition, Muhammad (Mahound in the book) added verses (Ayah) to the Qur'an accepting three goddesses who used to be worshipped in Mecca as divine beings. According to the legend, Muhammad later revoked the verses, saying the devil tempted him to utter these lines to appease the Meccans (hence the "Satanic" verses). However, the narrator reveals to the reader that these disputed verses were actually from the mouth of the Archangel Gabriel. The book was banned in many countries with large Muslim communities (13 in total: Iran, India, Bangladesh, Sudan, South Africa, Sri Lanka, Kenya, Thailand, Tanzania, Indonesia, Singapore, Venezuela, and Pakistan).

In response to the protests, on 22 January 1989 Rushdie published a column in The Observer that called Muhammad "one of the great geniuses of world history," but noted that Islamic doctrine holds Muhammad to be human, and in no way perfect. He held that the novel is not "an anti-religious novel. It is, however, an attempt to write about migration, its stresses and transformations."

On 14 February 1989—Valentine's Day, and also the day of his close friend Bruce Chatwin's funeral—a fatwā ordering Rushdie's execution was proclaimed on Radio Tehran by Ayatollah Khomeini, the spiritual leader of Iran at the time, calling the book "blasphemous against Islam". (Chapter IV of the book depicts the character of an Imam in exile who returns to incite revolt from the people of his country with no regard for their safety.) A bounty was offered for Rushdie's death, and he was thus forced to live under police protection for several years. On 7 March 1989, the United Kingdom and Iran broke diplomatic relations over the Rushdie controversy.

When, on BBC Radio 4, he was asked for a response to the threat, Rushdie said, "Frankly, I wish I had written a more critical book," and "I'm very sad that it should have happened. It's not true that this book is a blasphemy against Islam. I doubt very much that Khomeini or anyone else in Iran has read the book or more than selected extracts out of context." Later, he wrote that he was "proud, then and always", of that statement; while he did not feel his book was especially critical of Islam, "a religion whose leaders behaved in this way could probably use a little criticism."

The publication of the book and the fatwā sparked violence around the world, with bookstores firebombed. Muslim communities in several nations in the West held public rallies, burning copies of the book. Several people associated with translating or publishing the book were attacked, seriously injured, and even killed. Many more people died in riots in some countries. Despite the danger posed by the fatwā, Rushdie made a public appearance at London's Wembley Stadium on 11 August 1993 during a concert by U2. In 2010, U2 bassist Adam Clayton recalled that "[lead vocalist] Bono had been calling Salman Rushdie from the stage every night on the Zoo TV tour. When we played Wembley, Salman showed up in person and the stadium erupted. You [could] tell from [drummer] Larry Mullen, Jr.'s face that we weren't expecting it. Salman was a regular visitor after that. He had a backstage pass and he used it as often as possible. For a man who was supposed to be in hiding, it was remarkably easy to see him around the place."

On 24 September 1998, as a precondition to the restoration of diplomatic relations with the UK, the Iranian government, then headed by Mohammad Khatami, gave a public commitment that it would "neither support nor hinder assassination operations on Rushdie."

Hardliners in Iran have continued to reaffirm the death sentence. In early 2005, Khomeini's fatwā was reaffirmed by Iran's current spiritual leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, in a message to Muslim pilgrims making the annual pilgrimage to Mecca. Additionally, the Revolutionary Guards declared that the death sentence on him is still valid.​




And cat Stevens never apologized.

For those not in the know, Cat Stevens was asked about the fatwa, and said he would rather see Rushdie lit on fire than an effigy and that if Rushdie came to him for help he would call the ayatollah. He later claimed it was a joke, and years later claimed he was only talking about instructions in the Koran. He has never said he is sorry, he has never said death for blasphemy is clearly wrong.​


Talk about insecure. Murdering people in the 21st century because their imaginary friend told them to.
 
I have always thought that we are lucky that the Vietnamese,Laotians and Cambodians do not resort to the same extremism as Muslims.They accepted their fate.
Iran has a strong antipathy toward the US after a popular government was overthrown by the US and replaced by the Shah.The only way to get rid of the western backed Shah was by revolution.
The backing of the dog regimes in Saudi and Egypt,together with gratuitous invasions and promoting violence in Iraq,Libya,Afghanistan and Syria ,I suspect,do not go down well the inculcated extremists.Not to mention Israel being foisted on the Middle East.In my opinion all fertile ground for criminal Islamic extremists.I heard one scribe say that the distrust goes back to the Crusades.The vast majority of people,of whatever persuasion,want to live blameless lives...it is the extremist fringes that are unacceptable and dangerous.
 
Wow!! A bit of accurate history and context on many of the reasons Middle eastern communities don't have the US on their Christmas card list.

Nice work..:xyxthumbs
 
basilio said:
Wow!! A bit of accurate history and context on many of the reasons Middle eastern communities don't have the US on their Christmas card list.

Nice work..:xyxthumbs
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Middle Eastern countries don't celebrate Christmas bro, so probably never on the Christmas card list.

Just saying
 

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