Islam: Is it inherently Evil?

Tisme said:

Do they vector the location to make sure they bullseye Mecca or is it hit and miss? I'm amazed they can handle the belief the world is a sphere, yet they believe in fairies ....

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Christians and other religion believe in Science, I guess.

MrBurns said:

When they start laying prayer mats in public near your home it's a worry but no one will do anything about it , even when the suicide bombers start the Govt will do nothing.

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I live near a nunnery where there's a statute of, I guess, Joseph, on the balcony. Guess what happen whenever a religious Christian walk by the place? They stop in front of the place and do their crosses and bow to the statue.

Dude, don't do it on the street. It's confronting.

noco said:

And the UK police are protecting Islam by arresting people who are out on the street demonstrating against the invasion of Muslims into their country........The same will soon be happening here in Australia......Our true blue Australians must stand up now before it is too late.
I warned about this 7 and 10 years ago on ASF.......I was accused of being racist and had my post deleted on two occasions.......People in the UK are starting to rise against Islam.....Is it too late?...Maybe.
https://www.facebook.com/OfficialBr...455573433044/1339890362822888/?type=2&theater

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You were accused of being racist? No! Way!

Know how you don't like Muslims "invading" Western countries? That being invaded kinda upset you.

How do you reckon the Muslims in the Middle East feel when there are actual military boots all over their land, droning and shooting any of their people whenever, wherever?

Something's wrong with Islam I suppose. Dam it Islam! Always making trouble in your own home, forcing foreign military powers to come on over and having to kill most of you and take control of all your stuff.

What's wrong with Islam man.

SirRumpole said:

Well, yes people join the Armed Forces voluntarily, that doesn't necessarily mean that they think war is a good idea, they may just want a job. Fighter pilots usually go on to be airline pilots at a better pay grade for example.

What evidence is in front of you that forms your opinion ?

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No one's blaming the soldiers, or the armed forces, for any war.

People generally join their country's military to serve and protect. Some do join because it's also a job that pays and they have little or no other choice.

That's very different to the politicians and "statesman" and strategists, warmongers and war profiteers doing their grand design on the world and sending soldiers - who often are other people's kids - to do the dirty work.

SirRumpole said:

Young people may be told that, and some may believe it, but during the Vietnam war there were widespread protests against conscription leading to its abolition, so the young aren't as silly as you make out.

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The young, and the old, then were out protesting because they watch TV back when there were some real journalism showing the horror of full metal jacket and napalm meeting flesh.

People will not put up with having their military doing imperialism on peasant farmers. That and since it's a lottery whose kids will be send to do the job, it's not going to happen.

Then there's the fact that when soldiers from middle-class, working class families who thought they're there to actually protect their country from Communism and help the peasant... but instead saw what was actually happening. They didn't like what they see, what they're forced to do, so a lot of them mutinied against their officers. They actually refuse to fight, often shooting their own officers.

What the Pentagon and military planners came to realise is that they cannot have an imperial military with civilian soldiers. That to do these kind of stuff, you need what is practically a group of mercenary - paid soldiers. They call it "a voluntary army" where soldiers "volunteer" because there are so little opportunity for work, where higher education is so expensive, or where it is the only path to US citizenship and family not being deported... that serving the military is the only way.

Then the planners remove the draft. Spinning it as an all volunteered citizen militia fighting for freedom everywhere around the world when in fact it remove the chances of highly influential parents and political donors calling up their politicians about their kids might win the lottery and go shoot somebody.

It also save the likes of Bush and Cheney and Trump, the uber rich with high political ambition, from the bad press of having to dodge the military draft but claiming they're heroes and warriors protecting the homeland.

Then to further remove popular protest, you "embed" "journalist" into the military units. Let them see the love of war and pass the words along. Then you let guys like Murdoch own and control most of the media, telling the citizens what needs to be told and let them decide.

Then you pull out that old trick of the terrorist killing being shown all over the place, but "our" MOAB and clusterfarks are just puff of harmless smokes on the screen.

That's some of ways you sell propaganda in a "free" and "open" democracy.

MrBurns said:

When they start laying prayer mats in public near your home it's a worry but no one will do anything about it , even when the suicide bombers start the Govt will do nothing.

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What are they praying for?...Does anyone know?

MrBurns said:

When they start laying prayer mats in public near your home it's a worry but no one will do anything about it , even when the suicide bombers start the Govt will do nothing.

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Maybe a swift kick up the butt might change their mind but it also might land you in jail for assault.

Junior

Can you please substantiate your claim that food is cheap in this country?

noco said:

What are they praying for?...Does anyone know?

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They're praying... Please Allah, the great and merciful, protect my family and neighbour. Give us good health and endless Centrelink payment. I was going to also ask for death to all infidels but then that's sorta counter-productive seeing how their tax dollars are funding our Jihad against them. Hmmm... it's a tough one. Will think about it for another few hours before we talk again.

luutzu said:

I live near a nunnery where there's a statute of, I guess, Joseph, on the balcony. Guess what happen whenever a religious Christian walk by the place? They stop in front of the place and do their crosses and bow to the statue.

Dude, don't do it on the street. It's confronting.

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This is Australia so fit in or F off.

wayneL said:

Junior

Can you please substantiate your claim that food is cheap in this country?

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Remove the bloody Halal levy for a start might help.....That will make things cheaper......Why this weak government has allowed this Halal levy is beyond me.

MrBurns said:

This is Australia so fit in or F off.

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Being law-abiding citizen isn't enough?

luutzu said:

Being law-abiding citizen isn't enough?

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And what percentage of Muslim are law abiding?

noco said:

Remove the bloody Halal levy for a start might help.....That will make things cheaper......Why this weak government has allowed this Halal levy is beyond me.

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Higher GST and tax revenue

A jar of Vegemite would usually costs $4.99. With Kraft being bullied into submission with Halal, that same Vegemite is now $4.99. Sell enough of it and they can collect an extra trillion dollars.

noco said:

And what percentage of Muslim are law abiding?

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Same percentage as other Australians of other religion and cultural heritage. Plus a few handful of terrorists.

luutzu said:

Being law-abiding citizen isn't enough?

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It would be if they weren't trying to convert Australia to their way of life instead of converting to our way of life. Marrying little girls off to old men is isn't really the Australian way nor is collecting multiple welfare payments for multiple wives, our Govt is p### weak.

Obama admits to being a Muslim and defends their rights.

noco said:

Obama admits to being a Muslim and defends their rights.

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http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/foxvideo.asp

luutzu said:

I live near a nunnery where there's a statute of, I guess, Joseph, on the balcony. Guess what happen whenever a religious Christian walk by the place? They stop in front of the place and do their crosses and bow to the statue.

Dude, don't do it on the street. It's confronting.

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You're obviously not old enough to know how people doing the old finger pointing at the head and body while muttering the trinitarian in public almost caused total devastation of public conservatism and politeness, especially around anglican aethiests.

noco said:

Obama admits to being a Muslim and defends their rights.

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Hence he expand two wars on Muslim countries to 7; permit drone strikes all over the Arab world and any part of Africa that "serve" the US security and national interests.

I'd hate to see how he'd do different if he weren't an African Muslim.