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SirRumpole said:
A disgusting decision from a bunch of religious loonies.

Don't let it happen here.

http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2016/s4665402.htm

No doubt some will think this is all fine and is just making up for what Christians did 500 years ago.
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Sounds like a typical political ploy of getting your opponent out of the race SirR. I mean he's a Chinese Christian in an Islamic non-Chinese country, yet the people voted him into office without forcing him to renounce Christianity or get a darker tan. So you cannot put Islamic intolerance on the Indonesian people for this one.

It goes without saying that of course there are intolerant Muslims in Indonesia, and the guy's political opponent know how to push their buttons to get them to get him out of the way.

This is why, as Machiavelli advised his Princes, to fake being religious and pious and benevolent. And by religious he mean adopt whatever bs religion is the dominant one the plebs follow.

Hence, Obama got Christian religious soon after uni once he figured politic is for him.

Hence, Donald freaking Trump almost cry tears about Assad killing "God's beautiful babies" after he launches two shiploads of Tomahawk at some place. You know, the same man who proudly recommend the killing of not just terrorists but their family too; same douche who banned Muslims and tell refugees to go fark themselves.

So this guy fancy himself a politician but doesn't know how the game is played. Unfortunately he pay a heavy the price and also have the world blame Muslims for being intolerant for having voted for him in the first place.
 
Tisme said:
This guy is rather agitated:

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The guy sounds quite reasonable. Good on him.

I'm not sure why there are religious school funded mainly or in a major part by the public.

Just curious though, by the CAIR or whatever, does he mean those religious study public schools tend to hold a few weeks a year? I went to a public school and we had a few weeks of Bible study for those who choose to go. I'm assuming they also have ones for other religion too?
 
SirRumpole said:
The Muslims voted him out for religious reasons.
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The citizenry on an upward march to hope voted him in; the corrupted, fear and sheeple voted him out.

Indonesia may not make it out of the moral bankruptcy and moribund stagnation of the past.
 
SirRumpole said:
The Muslims voted him out for religious reasons.
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They probably are also Muslim, but didn't do it because their religion told them to. Just the usual political game.

Take, for example, Elliot Spritzer, former NY Attorney General. He was too tough on the banks, taking them to court, suing and forcing them to settle with the regulators for hundreds of millions. Turned out the bank look up his account transaction details and knew about his likes for escorts. Spritzer was forced to resigned because a civilised democracy cannot obviously have an unfaithful AG serving some public good and getting some on the sides. Why that's moral bankruptcy.

Should we look at that case and laid the blame on his outster on Christian value and such?

Was half asleep when I heard some Democracy Now news headline about suspicion that Trump's guy behind the attempted coup on Wodoko [?] is also behind this one. But I guess that's crazy conspiracy theory nutjob, it's Islam and hateful Muslims that voted him in, then voted him out once they realised he's Chinese and a Christian.
 
Tisme said:
The citizenry on an upward march to hope voted him in; the corrupted, fear and sheeple voted him out.

Indonesia may not make it out of the moral bankruptcy and moribund stagnation of the past.
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Not if the US and "Western Value" meddles with it, no.

Guess who put Indonesia back a few centuries? And no, it's not that long ago.

I guess one way to loot and get fire-sale bargains is to burn the place down.
 
noco said:
.......Why is there no action being taken.....
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Because the country is being run by migrant children who mistakenly think muslims share the same christian, pride and value systems Australia did when their parents came for a better life.
 
noco said:
Here is a case where 4 or 5 10 year old Muslims children threaten to behead a teacher at Punch Bowl School and no action is taken.......Why is there no action being taken.....There should be some sort of inquiry surely.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/3547198...heading-by-10-year-old-muslim-students/#page1
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Been through this exact case before didn't we? 4 and 5 year olds can be terrors, but come on. Terrorists going to cut a teacher's head off? How are they going to do that when their parents put a baby-safe lock on the knife drawers?
 
luutzu said:
Been through this exact case before didn't we? 4 and 5 year olds can be terrors, but come on. Terrorists going to cut a teacher's head off? How are they going to do that when their parents put a baby-safe lock on the knife drawers?
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It's not 4 or 5 YEAR OLDS, its 4 or 5 10 year olds who are quite capable of killing someone (Lord of the Flies).

Anyway the fact that children are being indoctrinated with jihadi propaganda is of no concern to you ? Just a bit of fun ?
 
SirRumpole said:
It's not 4 or 5 YEAR OLDS, its 4 or 5 10 year olds who are quite capable of killing someone (Lord of the Flies).

Anyway the fact that children are being indoctrinated with jihadi propaganda is of no concern to you ? Just a bit of fun ?
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It is worrying to have anyone being indoctrinated towards violence and terrorism. And I am sure there might be some parents out there who might very well raise their kids that way. But to say that Islam or Muslims all do it, five times a day... does it each time they pray to their Allah. Any evidence of that?

Yup, over 1 billion people in the world somehow, for some reason, just decided to join and continue with a religion that teaches them nothing but hatred.

If we bothered to do a count of wars of aggression (liberating the savages) over the last two thousand years, broken down by Christian kingdoms/states vs Muslims/Arab states. Not sure who'd "win" that one.

If we do the same but count dead bodies... I guess the West won because it's more technologically advanced.

Ohhhh... that was a long, long, long time ago. Like way back until right now all over the Middle East, Africa, Eastern Europe, South America... .and soon, Asia Pacific.

Seriously, ignore for a moment that it's more factually accurate, it'd also make Western Civilisation look better if wars, terrorism and its death and destruction are blame on imperialist warmongers who mislead their country and people into unnecessary wars for land, money and other booties.

To blame it on the vileness of another religion versus our noble soles and kind deeds... we're fooling ourselves and making the world laugh out loud over it.
 
SirRumpole said:
It's not 4 or 5 YEAR OLDS, its 4 or 5 10 year olds who are quite capable of killing someone (Lord of the Flies).
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Love the Lord of the Flies reference.

I think the best part of it is that the book can legitimately be seen as a criticism of the violent indoctrination children are part of in Western civilization. An indoctrination that Golding clearly argues is the reason for their deep-seated violent tendencies.

Strangely, you seem to be using the book as an argument that Muslim children are dangerous with the implication that this applies to them...

... I don't think when Golding writes about the war cruiser turning up at the end he means that the people who disembark are Jihadis. Do you?
 
Ves said:
Love the Lord of the Flies reference.

I think the best part of it is that the book can legitimately be seen as a criticism of the violent indoctrination children are part of in Western civilization. An indoctrination that Golding clearly argues is the reason for their deep-seated violent tendencies.

Strangely, you seem to be using the book as an argument that Muslim children are dangerous with the implication that this applies to them...

... I don't think when Golding writes about the war cruiser turning up at the end he means that the people who disembark are Jihadis. Do you?
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Ves, you do not seem to understand that when those 10 year old kids are fully brain washed and leave the Muslim school and they are fully indoctrinated into the hate of Christians and infidels, they will have the strength to perform their duty as preached to them from the Koran.
Things will get worse as more teenagers are let loose on the streets....There will be more killings which ever way they choose and there will be more gang rapes as recently happened in a pizza shop in the UK....The 16 year old girl went into to buy a pizza and four shop workers dragged her up stairs and each Muslim man had his pleasure.
 
noco said:
Ves, you do not seem to understand that when those 10 year old kids are fully brain washed and leave the Muslim school and they are fully indoctrinated into the hate of Christians and infidels, they will have the strength to perform their duty as preached to them from the Koran.
Things will get worse as more teenagers are let loose on the streets....There will be more killings which ever way they choose and there will be more gang rapes as recently happened in a pizza shop in the UK....The 16 year old girl went into to buy a pizza and four shop workers dragged her up stairs and each Muslim man had his pleasure.
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What's that got to do with my post?
 
noco said:
Everything.......You replied to SR regarding those 10 year old kids.
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I replied to him pointing out that his reference to a book written in the 1950s was tenuous at best.

Doesn't really have much to do with what you posted in reply to my post.
 
Ves said:
I replied to him pointing out that his reference to a book written in the 1950s was tenuous at best.

Doesn't really have much to do with what you posted in reply to my post.
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What ever......But it does not deter away from the facts of what will happen
very soon.
 

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