Islam: Is it inherently Evil?

[noco]

Under section 44 of the Australian constitution, people like Ed Husic, Anne Aly and Sam Dystriari should all be expelled from holding office in Federal, State or Local government.....Husic took his oath on the Koran.

How come this government is not abiding by the constitution?

http://concit.org/muslims-cannot-be-elected-to-government/

 

[noco]

Only Pauline Hanson will do it...forget about the lefties like Shorten and Turnbull.

https://www.votocrat.com/natalie.ma...tralia-have-your-say-yes-or-no?source=sharing

 

[Junior]

So Junior, you are quite happy to give you money to the Muslims?

The way it works is this: Muslims approach food producers and manufacturers of almost every item that's sold and insist that they pay an ongoing fee to be able to continue to sell their produce and goods as Halal Certified.


If the producers refuse, they will be threatened with exclusion from Islamic export markets and boycotted by Muslims in the home market. This has already happened in Australia with devastating results.


Those who still refuse are labelled as bigots and Islamophobes. These sums of money are not inconsequential, we are talking about up to $40,000 per month for a single chicken producer.


When all the food producers and manufacturers in Australia are added up, we are talking about an enormous transfer of wealth from non-Muslims to Muslims.


The most worrying aspect of this whole sorry affair is that we have no guarantee that the money is not being used to fund violent jihad around the world against both Muslims and non-Muslims. Given the amount of Islamic violence currently raging, this is a very real concern.

No, I'm not happy about that at all. If indeed, there is an enormous transfer of wealth from Australia to funding violent jihad, then of course this is shocking. But just because Pauline Hanson says so, or some 'Reclaim Australia' supporter writes it in his blog, does not make it true. I'll rely on the facts. The facts dictate that food is historically cheap in this country, and given there are close to zero Muslims in our Government who would support such a transfer of wealth, I really doubt there's much truth to these claims.

Seems far more likely they pay for certification for obvious reasons, to have the ability to export their products to Muslim countries and to increase their customer base. There are 1 billion people on this planet who associate with the Muslim religion. You be pretty dumb to refuse to pay a modest fee to have certification to be able to sell to this massive customer base.

 

[noco]

No, I'm not happy about that at all. If indeed, there is an enormous transfer of wealth from Australia to funding violent jihad, then of course this is shocking. But just because Pauline Hanson says so, or some 'Reclaim Australia' supporter writes it in his blog, does not make it true. I'll rely on the facts. The facts dictate that food is historically cheap in this country, and given there are close to zero Muslims in our Government who would support such a transfer of wealth, I really doubt there's much truth to these claims.

Seems far more likely they pay for certification for obvious reasons, to have the ability to export their products to Muslim countries and to increase their customer base. There are 1 billion people on this planet who associate with the Muslim religion. You be pretty dumb to refuse to pay a modest fee to have certification to be able to sell to this massive customer base.

You would have to be pretty bloody dumb not to realize where the trillion dollars a year world wide would be going to.....Where do you think they get the money from to build their big mosques?

 

[noco]

Is this the beginning of a major overhaul of this ancient Islamic law?

This is really something coming out of Saudi Arabia......Will the others follow?....I guess we will have to wait and see.

http://www.paulgolding.uk/saudi-wom...-police-complaints-after-new-order-from-king/

 

[luutzu]

You would have to be pretty bloody dumb not to realize where the trillion dollars a year world wide would be going to.....Where do you think they get the money from to build their big mosques?

Businesses pay a fee to get certified to sell their product to more market, and that's somehow a conspiracy by the evil Muslims to fund terrorism. Forget that Kosher food get the same thing; or that all food manufacturer need quality inspection to see what goes into what.

But alright, all that money to build Mosques... but then, if they're about terrorism, it doesn't seem like a good use of money to build Mosques instead of building WMD or shooting ranges or robotics and drones. But they have to use all that money on a place of worship! The nasty s o b.

While we're into questioning everything, you and Pauline ever question why there's about 7 wars in the middle east right now noco? Why an estimated 4 million Afghani and Iraqi are dead since operation enduring freedom blah blah... Why tens of millions of Muslims are forced out of their home and into refugee camps all over the region? Why is Yemen is in a famine with tens of millions starving while the Saudis and its partners, like the US and UK, sell them weapons and coordinating intelligence, mid-air refuelling to bomb the lives out of Yemen.

I guess the fact that all these are where the oil are kind of answer itself. That it's because Islam is evil and all these death and destruction on their people are for their own good.

 

[Junior]

You would have to be pretty bloody dumb not to realize where the trillion dollars a year world wide would be going to.....Where do you think they get the money from to build their big mosques?

Your theory is that businesses pay a massive fee for halal certification, to avoid being labelled as bigots. Yet this money goes into funding terrorism and 'violent jihad', and these same businesses are not concerned about the reputational damage which would occur in this situation??

Ridiculous conspiracy theory.

 

[noco]

Your theory is that businesses pay a massive fee for halal certification, to avoid being labelled as bigots. Yet this money goes into funding terrorism and 'violent jihad', and these same businesses are not concerned about the reputational damage which would occur in this situation??

Ridiculous conspiracy theory.

I trust some strong leader in the future will ban Halal certification.......It is not necessary here in Australia....It is an absolute racket.....Even blind Freddie can see that....If you were asked to pay and extra percentage on the GST you would be the first to scream about about.

 

[Junior]

There are a lot of things I have to pay for which I am not happy about. I have to fund Age Pensions and discounted meds for retirees who, in some cases, are sitting in a debt free home worth $1mill+ which is exempt from means testing. Us taxpayers get to fund their kids inheritance....seems unnecessary.

I have to pay an absolute fortune for electricity & gas, so AGL Shareholders can receive bigger and bigger dividends each year, and because our Government only plans 3 years ahead. I have to pay a fortune for water, so that an unused Desal plant can be maintained each year. I have to pay $800 for car rego each year, so that I can drive at an average speed of 20km/h to work each morning, so the government can build massive freeways and then allow Transurban to impose tolls on them for the next 50 years, rather than building a fast & effective public transport system.

These things actually have a material cost and impact on people's lives in this country.

Halal cert is not a big impost on business, as paying this fee opens up massive export markets and hence boost sales. I would think that by paying for this certification, this brings economies of scale and a reduction to the end price for consumers. If it didn't, they wouldn't pay for the cert....it's business... they aren't paying it for no reason. They also pay for the Made in Australia cert, Free Range, Kosher etc. etc.

 

[Tisme]

Be interesting to see if our electricity supply is Halal costed, because it's going to skyrocket for a second time this year and it's not the fault of Federal or State Govts so there.

 

[luutzu]

Be interesting to see if our electricity supply is Halal costed, because it's going to skyrocket for a second time this year and it's not the fault of Federal or State Govts so there.

But that's the good kind of gouging. No government, no Muslims, just old fashion entrepreneurial and private enterprising goodness.

Recently heard some California Democratic congresswoman [Feinstein?] being asked by her constituent why it is she and the Dems do not support single-payer healthcare. It'd cheaper and cover everyone, even the poor, some 20 million (and soon to be 40 million) of whom aren't getting any health coverage.

The public servant tells her boss that she'd love to have it, but it would mean a "government takeover". Why would you want to not go broke when you're sick when you can have the freedom to choose death or your family going homeless.

 

[Tisme]

But that's the good kind of gouging. No government, no Muslims, just old fashion entrepreneurial and private enterprising goodness.

Recently heard some California Democratic congresswoman [Feinstein?] being asked by her constituent why it is she and the Dems do not support single-payer healthcare. It'd cheaper and cover everyone, even the poor, some 20 million (and soon to be 40 million) of whom aren't getting any health coverage.

The public servant tells her boss that she'd love to have it, but it would mean a "government takeover". Why would you want to not go broke when you're sick when you can have the freedom to choose death or your family going homeless.

You can't populate a country with tired, poor, huddled masses with breathing problems, who were the refuse of their own housing shortaged country and expect a whole lot of empathy for their fellow man. Their gene pool is one of selfish servitude so it's every man for himself unless their is a reward in making out a group hug is the right thing to do.

 

[noco]

The first thing our government should do is close all Muslim schools.....But they are not listening.

Muslim kids are brainwashed 5 times per day that if you are a Christian or an infidel you must be eliminated........Now when those kids become teenagers they put into practice and more......Go out and gang rape a young non-Muslim girl.

 

[luutzu]

The first thing our government should do is close all Muslim schools.....But they are not listening.

Muslim kids are brainwashed 5 times per day that if you are a Christian or an infidel you must be eliminated........Now when those kids become teenagers they put into practice and more......Go out and gang rape a young non-Muslim girl.

Is that how brainwashing work? Teach them five times a day from kindie, wait til they hit the teen years then either join ISIS or a gang.

Not sure what explain non-Muslim, non-religious people being psychotic or mildly racist.

 

[noco]

Is that how brainwashing work? Teach them five times a day from kindie, wait til they hit the teen years then either join ISIS or a gang.

Not sure what explain non-Muslim, non-religious people being psychotic or mildly racist.

You sure got that right...... If you are Non- Muslims......Then you must be a Christian or an infidel.

Do you savvy?

 

[Junior]

The first thing our government should do is close all Muslim schools.....But they are not listening.

Muslim kids are brainwashed 5 times per day that if you are a Christian or an infidel you must be eliminated........Now when those kids become teenagers they put into practice and more......Go out and gang rape a young non-Muslim girl.

There are at least 500,000 muslims in Australia. That sure is a lot of gang-rapes and eliminations.

 

[noco]

There are at least 500,000 muslims in Australia. That sure is a lot of gang-rapes and eliminations.

Once again you are going from the sublime to the ridiculous....What else would anyone expect from your kind?

 

[Tisme]

This guy is rather agitated:

 

[luutzu]

You sure got that right...... If you are Non- Muslims......Then you must be a Christian or an infidel.

Do you savvy?

We've all been called worst, haven't we noco?

 

[SirRumpole]

A disgusting decision from a bunch of religious loonies.

Don't let it happen here.

http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2016/s4665402.htm

No doubt some will think this is all fine and is just making up for what Christians did 500 years ago.