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Coronavirus (COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2) outbreak discussion

Will the "Corona Virus" turn into a worldwide epidemic or fizzle out?

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 49.3%

  • No

    Votes: 9 12.0%

  • Bigger than SARS, but not worldwide epidemic (Black Death/bubonic plague)

    Votes: 25 33.3%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 4 5.3%
  • Total voters
    75
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qldfrog said:
I was wondering if methanol was the right alcool used in these.good tip, it makes sense, did not want to waste even cheap vodka
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yes denatured alcohol is listed as an ingredient in hand sanitiser from coles/woolies. Denatured alcohol and methylated spirits are the same thing as ethanol.

U can also use isopropyl (rubbing alcohol) which is used in more expensive hand sanitizers but its much pricier
 
Smurf1976 said:
A few hours later and the Iran figure is now officially 388.

To the extent the virus is rapidly increasing, that's where it seems to be happening at present. :2twocents
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28 deaths and their Vice president and 4 MPs plus health minister has COVID19 now. and 8 deaths in just one hospital night shift in Kamkar Hospital in Tehran.
 
Vaccine against coronavirus: Israeli research lab claims breakthrough
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As research labs across the world rush to develop vaccine against coronavirus, that the World Health Organization has “pandemic potential” and Israel research institute has claimed a breakthrough, according to the Israeli website Grapevine, which focuses on innovation in Israel.

Grapevine reported that the Migal Research Institute, based in northern Israel, held a press conference on Thursday to reveal that they have developed a coronavirus vaccine.

The findings are a culmination of four years multi-disciplinary research funded by Israel’s Ministry of Science and Technology in cooperation with Israel’s Ministry of Agriculture.

MIGAL has achieved the scientific breakthrough that will lead to the rapid creation of a vaccine against coronavirus, it claimed.
This possibility was identified as a by-product of MIGAL’s development of a vaccine against IBV (Infectious Bronchitis Virus), a disease affecting poultry, whose effectiveness has been proven in pre-clinical trials carried out at the Veterinary Institute.

MIGAL has now made required genetic adjustments to adapt the vaccine to COVID-19, the human strain of coronavirus, and is working to achieve the safety approvals that will enable in-vivo testing, enable the initiation of production of a vaccine to counter the coronavirus epidemic currently spreading throughout the world, which so far has claimed 2,666 lives.​


 
Yes, I am very happy with our Prime Minister who has been proactive on this issue.
He has learnt from the bushfires.

Also I have a friend in Japan who is a schoolteacher. Married a local girl. He said that all the schools are now being shut down for two weeks.
 
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Knobby22 said:
Yes, I am very happy with our Prime Minister who has been proactive on this issue.
He has learnt from the bushfires.

Also I have a friend in Japan who is a schoolteacher. Married a local girl. He said that all the schools are now being shut down for two weeks.
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YEP I can confirm this. But kindygartens still open and all teachers still need to turn up to school regardless if pupils are there.

Just got back from the super market here ( Marunaka ) no toilet paper, no basic head ache and cold medicine, no hand sanitzer, no masks....good thing they had beer and sausages though!
 
Knobby22 said:
Yes, I am very happy with our Prime Minister who has been proactive on this issue.
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I'm just glad he ignored the media, screaming at him to throw stimulus money, for the last two years.
It would be a real mess now, if we were already committed to a half ar$ed stimulus package, when we will probably need heaps of stimulus soon.
IMO we are very lucky the media don't run the country, despite their efforts.
 
Very interesting story of Corona Virus infection and recovery from a person in Wuhan.
Check out the sophisticated medical interventions the guy received. I wonder how well other countries will replicate this level of medical attention ?

To hell and back’: my three weeks suffering from coronavirus
Tiger Ye, 21, lives in Wuhan and started showing symptoms in mid-January. Here he tells the story of his illness and recovery
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ack-my-three-weeks-suffering-from-coronavirus
 
Iran death toll allegedly much higher.:oops:

Coronavirus: Iran's deaths at least 210, hospital sources say
 
fergee said:
Just got back from the super market here ( Marunaka ) no toilet paper, no basic head ache and cold medicine, no hand sanitzer, no masks....good thing they had beer and sausages though!
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Bangers and beer, the virus should leave you alone! Oi,oi,oi.
No Date Roll eh, hahaha.:D
The necessities of modern life amuse me.

F.Rock
 
sptrawler said:
when we will probably need heaps of stimulus soon.
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This will be a difficult one. Unlike the GFC, you can't simply throw money at the economy. If businesses are not working at full capacity because their supply sources in China are not producing the requisite parts, then stimulating the economy with lower interest rates or handouts to individuals is not going to do anything for these businesses. It is a supply side issue outside our control. Equally our export industries may have reduced demand because their customer base is in lockdown in China or Korea. Again, the issue is probably not solvable here.

Whatever stimulus is offered will have to be well thought through and precisely targeted.

Kevin Rudd's call for a broad stimulus package shows a lack of appreciation for the differences between now and when he was leader.
 
On the coronavirus. If it hits anywhere else, except China, there is no chance of doing as well as they have. Imagine setting up a two thousand bed hospital in two weeks. Being dragged in off the streets when your temperature is high and hooked round the neck and set upon. Or locking down Brisbane or Melbourne and not letting anyone out.

The virus will mutate at some stage and it's known a high dose of the virus will kill otherwise young and fit persons. Having it once does not mean a person can not be infected again. Https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus

Coronaviruses are a group of viruses that cause diseases in mammals and birds. In humans, coronaviruses cause respiratory tract infections that are typically mild, such as the common cold, though rarer forms such as SARS, MERS and COVID-19 can be lethal. Symptoms vary in other species: in chickens, they cause an upper respiratory tract disease, while in cows and pigs they cause diarrhea. There are yet to be vaccines or antiviral drugs to prevent or treat human coronavirus infections.

The major reason that viruses evolve faster than say, mosquitoes or snakes or bed bugs, is because they multiply faster than other organisms. And that means every new individual is an opportunity for new mutations as they make a copy of their genetic material.

Other fast mutators include coronaviruses like MERS, Covid-19 and SARS. Influenza viruses are fairly fast mutators, although that varies from strain to strain. That's one reason why flu vaccines are often only effective for a short while.

A vaccine for the coronavirus Covid-19 will not be available until early 2021.
 
noirua said:
On the coronavirus. If it hits anywhere else, except China, there is no chance of doing as well as they have. Imagine setting up a two thousand bed hospital in two weeks. Being dragged in off the streets when your temperature is high and hooked round the neck and set upon. Or locking down Brisbane or Melbourne and not letting anyone out.

The virus will mutate at some stage and it's known a high dose of the virus will kill otherwise young and fit persons. Having it once does not mean a person can not be infected again. Https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus

Coronaviruses are a group of viruses that cause diseases in mammals and birds. In humans, coronaviruses cause respiratory tract infections that are typically mild, such as the common cold, though rarer forms such as SARS, MERS and COVID-19 can be lethal. Symptoms vary in other species: in chickens, they cause an upper respiratory tract disease, while in cows and pigs they cause diarrhea. There are yet to be vaccines or antiviral drugs to prevent or treat human coronavirus infections.

The major reason that viruses evolve faster than say, mosquitoes or snakes or bed bugs, is because they multiply faster than other organisms. And that means every new individual is an opportunity for new mutations as they make a copy of their genetic material.

Other fast mutators include coronaviruses like MERS, Covid-19 and SARS. Influenza viruses are fairly fast mutators, although that varies from strain to strain. That's one reason why flu vaccines are often only effective for a short while.

A vaccine for the coronavirus Covid-19 will not be available until early 2021.
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Wait untill it comes out of Africa.:xyxthumbs
 
First death in the USA.i would not be surprised if, as Italy, it is already spreading there in hiding
 
qldfrog said:
First death in the USA.i would not be surprised if, as Italy, it is already spreading there in hiding
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The USA has been unprepared due to cutbacks and is therefore likely to have the virus loose in the population undetected. South Korea had massive testing which is why they are more in control.

I saw that USA independent labs are now encouraged to develop test kits as the government is caught short.

Also Fox News (the gov propaganda unit) is now saying in headlines that the disease isn't that scary which is sign that they think the fight may be lost.
 
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fergee said:
YEP I can confirm this. But kindygartens still open and all teachers still need to turn up to school regardless if pupils are there.

Just got back from the super market here ( Marunaka ) no toilet paper, no basic head ache and cold medicine, no hand sanitzer, no masks....good thing they had beer and sausages though!
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thanks for your feedback on the ground. If you need masks you can still get some good ones(3M P2/N95 with valves) for double price on Ebay AU delivered. I suspect those will be gone and prices up once coronavirus hits it big time here.
 
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