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Will the "Corona Virus" turn into a worldwide epidemic or fizzle out?

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 49.3%

  • No

    Votes: 9 12.0%

  • Bigger than SARS, but not worldwide epidemic (Black Death/bubonic plague)

    Votes: 25 33.3%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 4 5.3%
  • Total voters
    75
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basilio said:
I think it is very strange that Indonesia has so far reported no inciduence of the Covid-19 virus.
Doesn't quite add up.. Check this out

Why are there no reported cases of coronavirus in Indonesia?
Experts say there could be undetected coronavirus cases in Indonesia, a claim that has angered officials in Jakarta.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/02/reported-cases-coronavirus-indonesia-200218112232304.html
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On the surfing scene over there plenty of guys believing they have had it.
 
Anyone seen what the treatment is for the virus?

I haven't seen much.

Did read how your own immune system is part of the problem in causing death.

As it looks like its going to affect us all at some level maybe a discussion on treatment / care every chance the health services will get overwhelmed.
 
IFocus said:
Anyone seen what the treatment is for the virus?

I haven't seen much.

Did read how your own immune system is part of the problem in causing death.

As it looks like its going to affect us all at some level maybe a discussion on treatment / care every chance the health services will get overwhelmed.
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The mild cases is just like a common cold or flu, i get cough and fever couple days your are well again.
Severe cases ~15-20% will need oxygen supplementation to breath and maybe 2-3% will need artificial breathing respirator machines or they are dead.
 
Catching more than once would suck. Apparently the antibodies you produce don't last long
 
Some practical tips for when it hits:

China is currently burning money as they think it could be contaminated with covid 19.
So don't touch your face after handling money.

It's in sht so public toilets are best stayed away from.

Careful cleaning your phone but be aware that it's going from hand to face. Clean your hands.
Chemicals found in household cleaners and even soap can damage the screen on your device.

Disinfectants wear down screens' "oleophobic coating," which is designed to keep them fingerprint- and moisture-free, according to Apple's website. For that reason, Apple says you should avoid cleaning products and abrasive materials that could affect the coating and make your iPhone more vulnerable to scratches. Similarly, Samsung suggests that Galaxy users avoid using Windex or window cleaners with "strong chemicals" on screens
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Cleaning with common household products can make a difference, according to the research, which also found that human coronaviruses "can be efficiently inactivated by surface disinfection procedures with 62-71% ethanol, 0.5% hydrogen peroxide or 0.1% sodium hypochlorite" or bleach within one minute.

I think n95 or p2 masks help protect against the virus. I'll check in store later. Pretty sure you can pick up a pack in Bunnings.

Basic hygiene wash hands, don't touch nose, mouth and face.
 
moXJO said:
Some practical tips for when it hits:

China is currently burning money as they think it could be contaminated with covid 19.
So don't touch your face after handling money.

It's in sht so public toilets are best stayed away from.

Careful cleaning your phone but be aware that it's going from hand to face. Clean your hands.


Cleaning with common household products can make a difference, according to the research, which also found that human coronaviruses "can be efficiently inactivated by surface disinfection procedures with 62-71% ethanol, 0.5% hydrogen peroxide or 0.1% sodium hypochlorite" or bleach within one minute.

I think n95 or p2 masks help protect against the virus. I'll check in store later. Pretty sure you can pick up a pack in Bunnings.

Basic hygiene wash hands, don't touch nose, mouth and face.
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That moXJO is exactly right, it can't be reinforced enough, there is a much,much,much greater chance of catching it hand to mouth/nose/eyes, than inhaling airborne virus.
People just have poor personal hygiene, it is the perfect time for everyone to start good hand washing practices, use the trolley wipes at the supermarket, wash as soon as you get in the house,before touching food and all the other normal stuff as moXJO said.
It could be the difference between life and death, I kid you not.:2twocents
 
I've been weight training for a month and a bit. Family got the flu and laid out, my symptoms were extremely mild. Barely noticed it.
Generally when I'm in training my immune system seems very strong past the first 2 weeks.

Good idea to give your body the best chance before it hits Australia.
 
Good time to have enough cash to last 2 months minimum.

Worth getting walk around hand sanitizer and keep cupboards stocked in a month or two time.
Best be reasonably prepared without going all out in a panic just yet. As news filters in, adjust tinfoil hat from there. But you don't want to be the one panic rushing the stores.

Still plenty of time to prep before it hits imo. And it may not be as bad as its made out anyway.
 
moXJO said:
Good time to have enough cash to last 2 months minimum.

Worth getting walk around hand sanitizer and keep cupboards stocked in a month or two time.
Best be reasonably prepared without going all out in a panic just yet. As news filters in, adjust tinfoil hat from there. But you don't want to be the one panic rushing the stores.

Still plenty of time to prep before it hits imo. And it may not be as bad as its made out anyway.
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Better to be safe than sorry.

Stocking up on vitamins and basic meds, cough syrup, ibuprofen etc.

Also video games, board games, books, netflix subscription etc to be able to kill
time if stuck inside for more than a few days.
 
moXJO said:
Some practical tips for when it hits:
So don't touch your face after handling money.
public toilets are best stayed away from.

Careful cleaning your phone but be aware that it's going from hand to face. Clean your hands.

Cleaning with common household products can make a difference

Basic hygiene wash hands, don't touch nose, mouth and face.
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Also don't shake hands.

The WHO says the virus is transmitted by droplets, and only lives on surfaces for short periods, perhaps 30 minutes. Other health groups have questioned that, suggesting it can live much longer on surfaces. If you are concerned, wipe down surfaces you are going to touch on aeroplanes or other public spaces, such as hotel rooms.

Paper surgical masks are effective at keeping you from spreading disease if you are sick, but not effective at blocking you from ingesting virus. For that, health experts recommend an N95 respirator — a heavy-duty mask.

- Johns Hopkins
 
Dona Ferentes said:
Also don't shake hands.

The WHO says the virus is transmitted by droplets, and only lives on surfaces for short periods, perhaps 30 minutes. Other health groups have questioned that, suggesting it can live much longer on surfaces. If you are concerned, wipe down surfaces you are going to touch on aeroplanes or other public spaces, such as hotel rooms.

Paper surgical masks are effective at keeping you from spreading disease if you are sick, but not effective at blocking you from ingesting virus. For that, health experts recommend an N95 respirator — a heavy-duty mask.

- Johns Hopkins
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WHO trying to downplay things. This virus like flu spreads via aerosol as well and highly probably oral faecal route as well. Has been published in medical literature already. So prep ur masks and supplies. Bunnings have run out of 'n95 mask types from 3M though, gotta get it on eBay at double prices now.
 
They are still selling n95 masks in most ohs safety stores. Pack of 12 is about $48. P2 masks should suffice/equivalent (with carbon filters) the p2.5 filters out even more. Ok for walking around crowds/ or light contact, not sure it it will do much if you have to care for a family member. Not an expert in the area though.
Full face masks are in the hundreds.
Sperm suits are about $10 And are also selling out fast. They apparently can't get more stock for a bit.

Hand sanitizer is sold out in a lot of chemists. People were buying 10 each when I went to look.

Masks are selling fast
 
moXJO said:
They are still selling n95 masks in most ohs safety stores. Pack of 12 is about $48. P2 masks should suffice/equivalent (with carbon filters) the p2.5 filters out even more. Ok for walking around crowds/ or light contact, not sure it it will do much if you have to care for a family member. Not an expert in the area though.
Full face masks are in the hundreds.
Sperm suits are about $10 And are also selling out fast. They apparently can't get more stock for a bit.

Hand sanitizer is sold out in a lot of chemists. People were buying 10 each when I went to look.

Masks are selling fast
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hand sanitizer is easy to make at home. Just 2:1 ration of methylated spirits to hand gel. U can get methylated spirits at BigW for $5 a liter.
 
Does hand sanitiser prevent the spread of coronavirus?
Yes. Alcohol-based hand sanitisers are not only effective at preventing the transmission of coronavirus, but the transmission of viral infections in general. According to Public Health Canada, they need to have around 60 or 70 per cent alcohol content, which is the case for most over-the counter hand sanitisers.

I'm seeing a bit of mixed info on hand sanitizer. Some people posting it doesn't work.
It does.
 
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