The suspects have been identified by police as US born Syed Farook, 28, and Tashfeen Malik, 27.
obviously an issue of gun control like in Paris and Charlie hebdo.
Wake up Wake up Jeff (loosely based on the wiggles)
fully agree but the St bernardino massacre is not our usual crazy looner , it is an act of terrorism, done in a team and as French attacks and Europe has shown, stricter gun control would not have helped much in that specific case" There is now a mass shooting every single day in America.
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but Australia has reached a point where you need a license to buy a bb gun, yet the crims have no issue to get weapons and any 17y old can drive a 2t metal bullet on the same road as I while drugged truckies slaughters people daily on the same roads.
Balance, balance and common sense are missing in these debates often from both sides
C'mon Froggy, isn't that a long bow to be drawing in comparing gun control with road safety
He does have a point though. The use of licences to ply your trade, have a drink in the park, etc is no guarantee, and as it turns out, no hindrance to getting a gun and killing people, especially if the power of their lord compels them.
Getting a gun capable of killing mass quantities of people in Australia is not as easy as the US, period. Gun laws are working in Australia. Gun laws won't work in the US where there are already too many guns to keep track of.
I have a gut feeling we will find out sooner than later if your theory holds. I wouldn't know where to start, but somehow these followers of the "peaceful" religion have no problem getting a gun light enough for a child to use, but lethal enough to kill people. And it's not like these shooters run away here, they stay on the scene trying to pop off anyone that ventures by.
I think it's too late for the USA.
There are too many guns in the community and not enough will to do anything about it.
Obama wants to do a John Howard, but the Second Amendment is the killer (pardon the expression).
Unless Clinton or someone else campaigns on the policy of gun control and wins, then the US will just have to reap what it sows.
" There is now a mass shooting every single day in America.
It’s become a sickening part of routine life in the world’s great superpower.
I’ve run out of vitriolic adjectives to describe them, and they would be superfluous anyway because the statistics alone tell the horrific story.
These two in particular are all you need to really know:
1) 100,000 people are hit by gunfire in the United States every year, of whom 32,000 die.
2) More people, over 400,000, have been killed by guns since 2001 alone than America lost in the whole of World War 2.
This is more than all the other 20 richest industrialised countries in the world, combined."
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...royed-lives-San-Bernardino.html#ixzz3tI9NBb6d
sure but an air rifle or bb gun?Yeah sure, but my point is that arming the nation as the pro gun lobby spouts, is not the answer in Australia. Good solid intelligence, which means we need to give up some privacy....I'm fine with that, i have nothing to hide. If it means my family will be safer because of it, roll on spys. Keep the guns registered and for useful purposes like hunting or policing.
Society has deteriorated when part of workplace health and safety is the employees having to do active shooter training.
I was actually in Santa Barbara over the weekend when this happened. Very sad, but it is amazing how it is so common place here (in the US) that life just goes on and it barely even gets a mention from people not immediately affected
It is that exact adage that the NRA and pro-gun lobby over here in 'Merica use. Why should you regulate guns when it's people that kill, not the guns...
It's amazing how many supposedly sensible people here think that more guns make them safer. In fact on the local news today i saw that regular police officers in certain suburbs are now allowed to carry AR-15's as that will make the suburb 'safer'. How the hell is an AR-15 going to make an area safer than a normal hand-gun??
Anyone having lived there and ready to share their experience as to this decision process: when living in a place where guns are everywhere, what do you do?
The death tolls change, the places change: Nine in a church, 23 in a restaurant, 26 in an elementary school, now 14 at a holiday party. The faces in the memorial photos change the most.
But the weapons are the common denominator.
Mass killings in the United States are most often carried out with guns, usually handguns, most of them obtained legally.
There is no universally accepted definition of a mass shooting, and different organizations use different criteria. In this piece we look at the deadliest cases, beginning Aug. 1, 1966, when ex-Marine sniper Charles Whitman killed his wife and mother, then climbed a 27-story tower at the University of Texas and killed 14 more people before police shot him to death. The numbers here refer to 121 events in which four or more people were killed by a lone shooter (or two shooters in three cases). An average of seven people died during each event, often including the shooters.
This data ”” compiled from Mother Jones; Grant Duwe, author of “Mass Murder in the United States: A History,” and Washington Post research ”” does not include gang killings, shootings that began as other crimes such as robberies, and killings that involved only the shooter’s family.
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