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Colorado, gun control and the 2nd Amendment
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Five dead, others 'gravely injured' in shooting at
Capital Gazette newspaper in Annapolis
At least five people were killed and several others were “gravely injured” in a shooting Thursday afternoon at the Capital Gazette in Anne Arundel County, authorities said.Capital Gazette newspaper in Annapolis
A shooter is in custody, police said. Police would not name the suspect or say what type of weapon was used.
Anne Arundel County Police initially confirmed about 3:15 p.m. that they were responding to an “active shooter” at 888 Bestgate Road, where the newspaper’s offices are located. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives also responded to the scene.
The Capital Gazette is owned by The Baltimore Sun.
Police said a “long gun” was used in the incident. They said officers did not exchange gunfire with the suspect, who was now being interrogated. They said officers had recovered what appeared to be an “explosive device,” and had “tactically secured” the building. About 170 people were inside at the time of the shooting, police said.
Phil Davis, a Capital Gazette crime reporter who was in the building at the time of the shooting, said multiple people were shot, as others — himself included — hid under their desks. He said there was a lone male gunman.
“Gunman shot through the glass door to the office and opened fire on multiple employees. Can’t say much more and don’t want to declare anyone dead, but it’s bad,” Davis wrote on Twitter as he waited to be interviewed by police.
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California bar gunman who killed 12 people identified
as former US Marine
as former US Marine
The hooded man who shot up a California bar and killed 12 people has been identified as Ian David Long, a former US Marine who served in Afghanistan and may have suffered PTSD.
The 28-year-old veteran is suspected of carrying out the shooting at a bar in Thousand Oaks, and the dead included Sheriff's Sergeant Ron Helus, the first responder to the fatal attack.
Patrons at the bar screamed in fear, shouted "Get down!" and used barstools to smash second-floor windows and jump to safety as gunfire erupted at the Borderline Bar and Grill, a hangout popular with students from nearby California Lutheran University.
Ventura County Sheriff Geoff Dean said police believed Long then turned the gun on himself, bringing the death toll to 13.
There was no known motive, he said.
The 28-year-old veteran is suspected of carrying out the shooting at a bar in Thousand Oaks, and the dead included Sheriff's Sergeant Ron Helus, the first responder to the fatal attack.
Patrons at the bar screamed in fear, shouted "Get down!" and used barstools to smash second-floor windows and jump to safety as gunfire erupted at the Borderline Bar and Grill, a hangout popular with students from nearby California Lutheran University.
Ventura County Sheriff Geoff Dean said police believed Long then turned the gun on himself, bringing the death toll to 13.
There was no known motive, he said.
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Be interesting to see how the gun lobby will spin this one. "If there's a good guy with a gun it won't happen" won't do it this time seeing how a sheriff also got shot.
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11 people killed in Virginia Beach shooting; suspect dead
VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. (AP) — A longtime, disgruntled city employee opened fire at a municipal building in Virginia Beach on Friday, killing 11 people before police fatally shot him, authorities said.
Six other people were wounded in the shooting, including a police officer whose bulletproof vest saved his life, said Virginia Beach Police Chief James Cervera.
Five patients were being treated at Sentara Virginia Beach General Hospital and a sixth was being transferred to the Trauma Center at Sentara Norfolk General Hospital, Sentara Healthcare tweeted.
The shooter opened fire in Building 2 of the municipal center, which is adjacent to City Hall. The building houses the city’s public works, public utilities and planning departments, according to City Councilwoman Barbara Henley, who arrived at City Hall building about 4 p.m. Friday just after the shooting.
Megan Banton, an administrative assistant who works in the building where the shooting happened, said she heard gunshots, called 911 and barricaded a door.
“We tried to do everything we could to keep everybody safe,” she said. “We were all just terrified. It felt like it wasn’t real, like we were in a dream. You are just terrified because all you can hear is the gunshots.”
She said she texted her mom, telling her that there was an active shooter in the building and she and others were waiting for police. Banton works in an office of about 20 people that is part of the public works department.
“Thank God my baby is OK,” Banton’s mother, Dana Showers, said.
Cervera identified the shooter as a disgruntled employee of the Public Utilities Department. He did not release his name.
Christina Pullen, a spokeswoman for the FBI in Norfolk, said the bureau is assisting.
Six other people were wounded in the shooting, including a police officer whose bulletproof vest saved his life, said Virginia Beach Police Chief James Cervera.
Five patients were being treated at Sentara Virginia Beach General Hospital and a sixth was being transferred to the Trauma Center at Sentara Norfolk General Hospital, Sentara Healthcare tweeted.
The shooter opened fire in Building 2 of the municipal center, which is adjacent to City Hall. The building houses the city’s public works, public utilities and planning departments, according to City Councilwoman Barbara Henley, who arrived at City Hall building about 4 p.m. Friday just after the shooting.
Megan Banton, an administrative assistant who works in the building where the shooting happened, said she heard gunshots, called 911 and barricaded a door.
“We tried to do everything we could to keep everybody safe,” she said. “We were all just terrified. It felt like it wasn’t real, like we were in a dream. You are just terrified because all you can hear is the gunshots.”
She said she texted her mom, telling her that there was an active shooter in the building and she and others were waiting for police. Banton works in an office of about 20 people that is part of the public works department.
“Thank God my baby is OK,” Banton’s mother, Dana Showers, said.
Cervera identified the shooter as a disgruntled employee of the Public Utilities Department. He did not release his name.
Christina Pullen, a spokeswoman for the FBI in Norfolk, said the bureau is assisting.
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The extent of mass murder in public offices, schools, communities is beyond madness.
It has reached the stage where office workers have educational programs on how to protect themselves in the event of a shooter invading their place of employment. (maybe...)
The twist however is that the presenters are primary school children who have been drilled in such programs and have produced their own presentation to take around the community.
Yeah. xxxxing crazy.
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/05/10/us/generation-lockdown-psa-trnd/index.html
It has reached the stage where office workers have educational programs on how to protect themselves in the event of a shooter invading their place of employment. (maybe...)
The twist however is that the presenters are primary school children who have been drilled in such programs and have produced their own presentation to take around the community.
Yeah. xxxxing crazy.
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/05/10/us/generation-lockdown-psa-trnd/index.html
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Several dead in shooting at Walmart in El Paso
- A shooting at a Walmart near a mall in El Paso has left multiple people dead.
- At least 18 people were taken to local hospitals.
- A 21-year-old male suspect was taken into custody. Earlier, there were reports that three people were in custody.
- Police said they believe there was only one shooter.
- Rep. Veronica Escobar and presidential candidate Beto O’Rourke expressed sorrow at the news.
The shooting happened at a Walmart near the Cielo Vista Mall. A 21-year-old male suspect was taken into custody. Earlier, there were reports that three people were in custody.
Police said they believe there was only one shooter. Law enforcement previously said they had reports of multiple shooters.
El Paso police first received calls about a shooting at 10 a.m. local time. Multiple other law enforcement agencies, including the ATF and FBI, assisted El Paso police.
Authorities asked people to say clear of the area surrounding the Cielo Vista Mall. A reunification center for families has been set up at McCarthur Middle School.
Multiple ambulances were at the scene.
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Reports of up to 10 dead in Dayton, Ohio, shooting, a day after the El Paso shooting
https://sputniknews.com/us/20190804...g-to-active-shooter-in-dayton-ohio---reports/
https://sputniknews.com/us/20190804...g-to-active-shooter-in-dayton-ohio---reports/
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The Texas one looks like a racist/right wing fanatic hate crime type.
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It would be tasteless to "like" the above, but it says it all really.
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5 dead in shooting spanning Midland, Odessa
Earlier reports of multiple shooters have not been confirmed and police believe the threat is over.
ODESSA, Texas — Five people are dead and 21 injured after a shooting that spanned multiple locations in Midland and Odessa. A single suspect is dead, and Odessa police believe the threat has been contained. It's unclear whether the five dead includes the shooter.
Initial reports included two suspects, however at a press conference Saturday evening, Odessa Police Chief Michael Gerke said they had not confirmed a second suspect.
Thirteen people in various conditions were being treated at Medical Center Hospital Saturday, where a staging area with grief counselors had been set up for families of the victims, according to Medical Center Health Systems CEO Russell Tippin.
Of the 13 patients, seven were in critical condition, two serious and one had died. It's not clear if that victim is among the five dead reported by Chief Gerke.
Tippin said the hospital is on lockdown for the safety of hospital officials and patients. The hospital is at capacity, and Tippin did not say the locations of the other injured.
UMC confirmed a 17 month old was airlifted to Lubbock after being shot in the face.
ODESSA, Texas — Five people are dead and 21 injured after a shooting that spanned multiple locations in Midland and Odessa. A single suspect is dead, and Odessa police believe the threat has been contained. It's unclear whether the five dead includes the shooter.
Initial reports included two suspects, however at a press conference Saturday evening, Odessa Police Chief Michael Gerke said they had not confirmed a second suspect.
Thirteen people in various conditions were being treated at Medical Center Hospital Saturday, where a staging area with grief counselors had been set up for families of the victims, according to Medical Center Health Systems CEO Russell Tippin.
Of the 13 patients, seven were in critical condition, two serious and one had died. It's not clear if that victim is among the five dead reported by Chief Gerke.
Tippin said the hospital is on lockdown for the safety of hospital officials and patients. The hospital is at capacity, and Tippin did not say the locations of the other injured.
UMC confirmed a 17 month old was airlifted to Lubbock after being shot in the face.
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That 17 month child should have had a gun so he could shoot back!
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At least two killed in a shooting at a Greenville,
South Carolina club
South Carolina club
At least two people were killed and eight others injured in a shooting early Sunday (local time) at a Greenville, South Carolina, nightclub.
A deputy with the Greenville County Sheriff's Office noticed a disturbance at the club, Lavish Lounge, shortly before 2am. When he pulled into the parking lot, he heard gunshots and called for emergency assistance, Lieutenant Jimmy Bolt said.
The Greenville Police Department and South Carolina Highway Patrol responded and found four gunshot victims inside, Lieutenant Bolt said. The officers did not fire their weapons, he said.
A dispatcher later learned that other victims were being transported to the hospital in personal vehicles, Lieutenant Bolt said.
The eight surviving victims are listed in "various conditions", he said. There are no suspects in custody. Investigators remain on the scene.
The nightclub was hosting a "very, very, very, large crowd" for a concert when the shooting erupted, Greenville County Sheriff Hobart Lewis said, according to CNN affiliate WYFF.
"There's a lot of shell casings inside," Sheriff Lewis said.
A deputy with the Greenville County Sheriff's Office noticed a disturbance at the club, Lavish Lounge, shortly before 2am. When he pulled into the parking lot, he heard gunshots and called for emergency assistance, Lieutenant Jimmy Bolt said.
The Greenville Police Department and South Carolina Highway Patrol responded and found four gunshot victims inside, Lieutenant Bolt said. The officers did not fire their weapons, he said.
A dispatcher later learned that other victims were being transported to the hospital in personal vehicles, Lieutenant Bolt said.
The eight surviving victims are listed in "various conditions", he said. There are no suspects in custody. Investigators remain on the scene.
The nightclub was hosting a "very, very, very, large crowd" for a concert when the shooting erupted, Greenville County Sheriff Hobart Lewis said, according to CNN affiliate WYFF.
"There's a lot of shell casings inside," Sheriff Lewis said.
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Hard to support the 2nd Amendment when it was written in the days when a musket was put above the fire place; to ensure that a well armed militia could reasonably defend the land against an invading British colonial force. However, if I lived in the US I would be Federalist.
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America to stop measuring gun-related deaths in an effort to eradicate gun crime
US President Donald Trump says the nation’s gun crime will plummet thanks to a new policy which will see gun-related deaths no longer recorded.
The President said the US – which currently has one of the highest rates of gun crime in the world – could expect to see the number of deaths caused by guns to drop to zero if his policy passes Congress.
“I have ordered for authorities to slow down the measurement of gun crime because it is adding to the number deaths,” Trump said at a press conference today. “The more you measure gun deaths, the more people are going to die. It’s as simple as that.”
The NRA has backed the move saying it is the best way to ensure that mass shootings at schools and shopping malls were eradicated while maintaining the right for Americans to bear arms. In a statement the NRA said, “Guns don’t kill people. Gun statistics kill people”.
https://www.theshovel.com.au/2020/0...d-deaths-in-an-effort-to-eradicate-gun-crime/
US President Donald Trump says the nation’s gun crime will plummet thanks to a new policy which will see gun-related deaths no longer recorded.
The President said the US – which currently has one of the highest rates of gun crime in the world – could expect to see the number of deaths caused by guns to drop to zero if his policy passes Congress.
“I have ordered for authorities to slow down the measurement of gun crime because it is adding to the number deaths,” Trump said at a press conference today. “The more you measure gun deaths, the more people are going to die. It’s as simple as that.”
The NRA has backed the move saying it is the best way to ensure that mass shootings at schools and shopping malls were eradicated while maintaining the right for Americans to bear arms. In a statement the NRA said, “Guns don’t kill people. Gun statistics kill people”.
https://www.theshovel.com.au/2020/0...d-deaths-in-an-effort-to-eradicate-gun-crime/
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Beautiful timing. Lady carrying gun stops mass murder. What a hero. Shows that everyone should carry a gun.
But if you think about it is extremely unlikely. I think the guy was killed deliberately to help the gun lobby.
Amazingly he supposedly opened fire in a car at a party and missed everything . Reminds me of Pulp Fiction. Pretty good effort for the lady to whip out her pistol and hit him multiple times. The guy was a known criminal also who deserved to die.
I don't believe a word of it.
www.bbc.com
But if you think about it is extremely unlikely. I think the guy was killed deliberately to help the gun lobby.
Amazingly he supposedly opened fire in a car at a party and missed everything . Reminds me of Pulp Fiction. Pretty good effort for the lady to whip out her pistol and hit him multiple times. The guy was a known criminal also who deserved to die.
I don't believe a word of it.
Armed female bystander kills man firing at party in West Virginia
A woman at a birthday party drew her pistol and left the gunman with multiple wounds, police say.
www.bbc.com
Beautiful timing. Lady carrying gun stops mass murder. What a hero. Shows that everyone should carry a gun.
But if you think about it is extremely unlikely. I think the guy was killed deliberately to help the gun lobby.
Amazingly he supposedly opened fire in a car at a party and missed everything . Reminds me of Pulp Fiction. Pretty good effort for the lady to whip out her pistol and hit him multiple times. The guy was a known criminal also who deserved to die.
I don't believe a word of it.
Armed female bystander kills man firing at party in West Virginia
A woman at a birthday party drew her pistol and left the gunman with multiple wounds, police say.
Similar story related by a friend who was in the ADF and was in the USA on exchange. One of his American colleagues, as proof of it's OK with guns, showed him an article of a lady who shot some armed dude in a resturant who was attermpting to rob the patrons. He replied "But if the fruit cake didn't have easy access to firearms in the first place...." Apparently the conversation went all quiet after that.
