Colorado, gun control and the 2nd Amendment

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In America, where it's easier to ban Muslims than to ban guns.

... and harder to buy cough medicine than a gun:

Having the common cold is enough to get one treated like a common criminal. To purchase seemingly innocuous cold medications such as Sudafed, consumers must now show ID and have the purchase logged in a database. It’s all because the active ingredient, pseudoephedrine, is the same substance used by chemists to cook up the illegal drug methamphetamine — or crystal meth. Zyrtec-D and Mucinex-D also contain pseudoephedrine.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/5-...than-guns-2015-10-02?mod=MW_story_top_stories

 

[Wysiwyg]

It will eventually become a bit ho hum just another one. It is for me now. The law makers are stoopid.

The Federal Assault Weapons Ban enacted in 1994 expired in 2004. Attempts to renew this ban have failed, as have attempts to pass a new ban, such as the Assault Weapons Ban of 2013 (AWB 2013).

 

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It will eventually become a bit ho hum just another one. It is for me now. The law makers are stoopid.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

... Donald Trump can also bask in the glory that their gun-related homicide rate is still much lower than that in Honduras, South Africa, and Mexico. (He may struggle to locate those countries on a map, except Mexico, maybe. But when he is President, he'll have staff to do the work for him...)

 

[trainspotter]

Apologies to the American forefathers ...

 

[Tisme]

Worth a revisit, if only for the video :




http://fusion.net/story/313347/gun-control-orlando-john-oliver/

 

[SirRumpole]

I had not see that before, but it's brilliant.

John Oliver could be, maybe is, a satirist of David Frost proportions.

 

[smallwolf]

Worth a revisit, if only for the video :




http://fusion.net/story/313347/gun-control-orlando-john-oliver/

and part 2 is worth watching as well...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG_nBB6UbcA

 

[CanOz]

yeah, thats a ripper as well. Australia should be very proud of thier reasonable gun laws. If one is a law abiding citizen you can still own a gun, even a pistol. Even criminals can get guns...but if you are an ideological nutcase, or just a nutcase...it might be a little hard to get a gun...just hard enough maybe, to make you change your mind, or get caught...that's all the time lives need sometimes.....

 

[trainspotter]

And the NRA has their hands firmly up the butts of the Republicans ...

Republicans and their allies in the NRA gun lobby said the Democratic bills were too restrictive and trampled on the constitutional right to bear arms. Democrats attacked the Republicans' two proposals as too weak and accused them of being in the thrall of the NRA.

"What am I going to tell the community of Orlando?" asked Democratic Senator Bill Nelson of Florida after the votes. "Sadly, what I’m going to tell them is the NRA won again."

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-florida-shooting-guns-idUSKCN0Z61BS

As predicted ....

 

[SirRumpole]

Is the US the craziest country in the world ?

Sometimes I wonder.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-...sacre-victims-told-they-never-existed/7546536

 

[Wysiwyg]

Watch the youtubes of police in America behaving in a psychopathic way. Sure the woman was uncooperative but the arrogant American has gotta have the last say. The backlash today with a mass police shooting was a matter of time. People are angry.

 

[MrBurns]

The footage of those cops killing those black guys was horrifying, cold blooded murder.
The backlash had to come, aren't those police trained at all ?
You cant hold someone down pull your gun out and shoot them in the chest...

 

[qldfrog]

And in the name of balance, white and latino kids are also being shot down with no/slight reasons as well.
Police in the US seems to have a serious problem.Training and self control;
Seems ridiculous to shoot at someone already on the floor, and if the shot is gone by accident, get some bloody training and know to use a safety.
For us ozzies, a couple of weeks ago, a mental patient armed with a knife was shot in a shopping center by police and 3 elderly bystanders wounded as colateral damages. Seems that we can not have much trust here either.Hopefully will not get as bad as in the states.

 

[qldfrog]

And in the name of balance, white and latino kids are also being shot down with no/slight reasons as well.
Police in the US seems to have a serious problem.Training and self control;
Seems ridiculous to shoot at someone already on the floor, and if the shot is gone by accident, get some bloody training and know to use a safety.
For us ozzies, a couple of weeks ago, a mental patient armed with a knife was shot in a shopping center by police and 3 elderly bystanders wounded as colateral damages. Seems that we can not have much trust here either.Hopefully will not get as bad as in the states.

And for more stats (in French)
http://www.lemonde.fr/les-decodeurs/article/2016/07/08/en-2016-la-police-americaine-a-tue-510-personnes_4966266_4355770.html

In 2016, 510 persons killed by the US police so far, 123 black (27,3 % ) 235 whites (52,3 %).
510 out of 319 millions;
the guardian had a previous interesting numeric analysis of the number of killed by police in the US vs the world
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/09/the-counted-police-killings-us-vs-other-countries
So not an issue of race in my opinion, but a serious issue of police behaviour

 

[Macquack]

Not an excuse, but no wonder the cops are trigger happy when everyone else is packing a pistol.

Who would want to be a cop in the US?

The police force should be championing gun control.

 

[SirRumpole]

Not an excuse, but no wonder the cops are trigger happy when everyone else is packing a pistol.

Who would want to be a cop in the US?

The police force should be championing gun control.

A lot of police are coming out for gun control, but if even the POTUS can't do anything about it, what can the police do ?

Anyway, shooting a guy when he's on the ground is inexcusable, but the cops have a right to be nervous and no relief is in sight for them.

 

[luutzu]

A lot of police are coming out for gun control, but if even the POTUS can't do anything about it, what can the police do ?

Anyway, shooting a guy when he's on the ground is inexcusable, but the cops have a right to be nervous and no relief is in sight for them.

Yea the cops would be more nervous than in other countries but the ones that's too nervous and shoot first... it's more racism and stereotypes than just simple "everyone's packing".

There's that kid playing with a toy gun and was running away - shot dead; Another black man ran away, shot dead; A guy who told the officer he has a gun he was licensed to carry (so don't shoot me when I get my wallet like you're asking me!), shot dead - his gf and her kid have to hold their hands up while the dude bleeds to death.

Watch the video of that... if that lady weren't keeping calm, she'd be dead too.

 

[luutzu]

Not an excuse, but no wonder the cops are trigger happy when everyone else is packing a pistol.

Who would want to be a cop in the US?

The police force should be championing gun control.

The cops there tend to be fighting for more hardware for themselves than gun control. And the arms industry are happy to oblige.

 

[So_Cynical]

In a country awash with guns, a county where often gun ownership is encouraged, many states with open carry and concealed permits etc, the cops have to kind of expect everyone to have a gun, problem seems to be that the cops think that someone having a gun = someone wants to kill me.

The guns are most of the problem, the other thing is the absolute insistence of the cops escalating rather than managing situations, often they seem to be in a hurry to get to the guns out part of the exchange.

 

[DB008]

Nut case USA....

Texas school shooting follows tragically familiar script as students endure 22nd attack of its kind this year
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The most chilling account wasn't the desperate fear of teenagers fleeing death, parents' heartbreaking search for loved ones or the detached listing of the body count from first responders.

US teenagers now prepare for shootings as routinely as exams.

It's a desperate situation.

What should be a formative experience through difficult teenage years now exists under a constant shadow of death and violence.

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-...ng-follows-tragically-familiar-script/9778628
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