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It was the Church's fault.
Every church should be fitted with a bullet proof pulpit with a machine gun hidden within. Then when the madmen attacks the Priest can spray them with a hail of bullets. Every National Rifleman knows that.
 
Knobby22 said:
It was the Church's fault.
Every church should be fitted with a bullet proof pulpit with a machine gun hidden within. Then when the madmen attacks the Priest can spray them with a hail of bullets. Every National Rifleman knows that.
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Let's face it, anyone sporting a Peter Tork hair style in 2015 has to be someone with a few marbles short of game of doogs. He's more suited to the US military and a posting in Syria than on the streets of Charleston.

I spent a fortnight in Charleston and thought of it as an Haddon Sundblom enclave; beautiful summer houses and tree shaded streets. However there is a definite divide that persists from the good old days of rice plantations and the master/slave relationships of its history.
 
TV shooting reignites US gun debate​

Two journalists for a local CBS affiliate in Virginia have been shot dead in a chilling live television broadcast, and the suspected gunman, apparently a disgruntled former station employee shot himself and later died in hospital.

The suspect - Vester Lee Flanagan, 41, also known as Bryce Williams - was taken into police custody with 'life-threatening injuries' after shooting himself, Virginia state police said.

'Troopers approached the vehicle and found the male driver suffering from a gunshot wound. He is being transported to a nearby hospital for treatment of life-threatening injuries,' police said in a statement.

Another video of the deadly on-air shooting - apparently filmed by the assailant - was posted on Twitter and Facebook. The footage was later taken down.

The killings, which sparked an intense manhunt and prompted a lockdown of local schools, once again highlighted fears about gun violence in America.

Reporter Alison Parker, 24, and cameraman Adam Ward, 27, were fatally shot at close range while conducting an on-air interview for WDBJ in Roanoke, about 385 kilometres southwest of the US capital Washington.
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They'll be terrified of copycats now and I don't blame them.

Stupid USA gun laws, even the President cant get it fixed.:banghead:
 
This is the 45th school shooting in the US this year

The sad thing is that's it's almost not worth commenting on any more because it's so common.

Oregon school shooting: 13 dead, 20 injured in shooting at Umpqua Community College, official confirms


At least 13 people have been killed and another 20 injured at a shooting at a community college in Oregon, an official says.

Oregon's attorney-general said at least 13 people were killed and the gunman had died at the shooting at Umpqua Community College campus in Roseburg.

An Oregon sheriff confirmed that officers exchanged fire with the gunman and also confirmed he died.

The sheriff declined to confirm the number of killed and injured.
Key points:

At least 13 people dead and 20 injured
Gunman exchanged fire with police, was killed
Gunman was 20 years old

Oregon's state governor confirmed the gunman was 20 years old.

Authorities said the shooting took place in one of the classrooms in the science building.

CNN, citing local officials, said at least 20 people were critically injured, including one woman who was shot in the chest.

"It's less than 20 but I don't have an exact number," said the county commissioners office assistant, who declined to be named.

Douglas County fire marshal Ray Shoufler said firefighters had evacuated 11 injured people from the college but two had died.

He said when firefighters arrived at the scene, police had the shooter in custody.

Mercy Medical Centre in Roseburg said on Facebook that the hospital had received nine patients from the shooting and had been advised that three more were en route.

News reports said the shooter may have posted a message online before the shooting.

The Portland Oregonian newspaper reported that officers responded at around 10:40am (local time) to reports of a shooting at the college.

The college was immediately placed on lockdown as firefighters, police and concerned parents rushed to the site.

Local media reported that authorities were combing through the campus.

Authorities set up a triage centre at the college and searched students as they left the facility.

President Barack Obama has been briefed about the shooting, a White House official said.

Roseburg is a city of about 20,000 people, 418 kilometres south of Portland.

School shootings are a disturbing reality of American life and many facilities have reinforced security in recent years, especially in the wake of the Sandy Hook massacre in 2012.

Twenty students and six adults were killed at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut by 20-year-old Adam Lanza.

Former politician and shooting victim Gabrielle Giffords tweeted her support for those involved in the attack.

"A community's heart has been tested but will not be broken," she said.

Ms Giffords, a Democrat in Arizona, was shot in the head during a 2011 attack that killed six people.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-02/shooting-at-oregon-community-college/6821828
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SirRumpole said:
This is the 45th school shooting in the US this year

The sad thing is that's it's almost not worth commenting on any more because it's so common.

Oregon school shooting: 13 dead, 20 injured in shooting at Umpqua Community College, official confirms
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More blood on the hands of the gun lobby. And they couldn't give a stuff.
 
MrBurns said:
More blood on the hands of the gun lobby. And they couldn't give a stuff.
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On the contrary MrBurns, guns in the hands of nutters requires counter acting force in the hands of the good guys ...obviously US citizens need to arm up to be prepared to stop random shooters.
 
Tisme said:
On the contrary MrBurns, guns in the hands of nutters requires counter acting force in the hands of the good guys ...obviously US citizens need to arm up to be prepared to stop random shooters.
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Yes that BS theory really works doesn't it ?
Funny I didn't see any of those armed heros running to help those kids. The 20 year old policeman tried on his own but was also killed.
Why do these nut jobs kill themselves after they execute unarmed children ? I'd much prefer they were strapped in a chair and electrocuted Green Mile style.
 
MrBurns said:
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Why do these nut jobs kill themselves after they execute unarmed children ?.
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Lot of pressure on people in US. Been there a lot and observed they are practically workers from cradle to grave with not a lot of beans in the bank ....... at the same time they are fed a line of great wealth, fame and success .... I suspect it's all too much for some individuals in a nation unaccepting of failure. It's constant tensile competition there and for some reason we have govts that want to make us a sweat shop too.
 
MrBurns said:
More blood on the hands of the gun lobby. And they couldn't give a stuff.
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Just as long as they can carry a gun.

Apparently 95% of police training is taken up with the scenario of killing/ capturing a shooter in a school.
 
I am extremely please Australia and Canada have reasonable gun laws. The US is simply beyond the point of no return, if i lived there i would have no choice but to own a gun. Otherwise I'd succumb to the old "why take a knife to a gunfight" at some point, no doubt.
 
The "right" to bear arms doesn't say at what price.

A lot of high threat weapons can be bought ridiculously cheap.

If you put enough tax on to make a AK-47 worth half a million, then that would dry up the supply I would think.

Same with ammo, they could tax it enough to make it prohibitively expensive.

Make everyone register their guns and ammo, anyone found with an unregistered gun means life in prison.

But there are so many guns out there now its probably too late.
 
SirRumpole said:
The "right" to bear arms doesn't say at what price.

A lot of high threat weapons can be bought ridiculously cheap.

If you put enough tax on to make a AK-47 worth half a million, then that would dry up the supply I would think.

Same with ammo, they could tax it enough to make it prohibitively expensive.Make everyone register their guns and ammo, anyone found with an unregistered gun means life in prison.

But there are so many guns out there now its probably too late.
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That would mean the victims of future massacres would have the honour of being shot by some rich nut job.
 
Tisme said:
"Infantile" and "Mental Health" talking heads:


clicky
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That guy Tucker Carlson, what a half wit, mouthing off blatant lies and they allow him on US television (Fox). Murdoch has a lot to answer for.

"They have no freedom, you can go to prison for expressing unpopular views in Australia and people do." -

Tucker Carlson
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Tisme said:
Lot of pressure on people in US. Been there a lot and observed they are practically workers from cradle to grave with not a lot of beans in the bank ....... at the same time they are fed a line of great wealth, fame and success .... I suspect it's all too much for some individuals in a nation unaccepting of failure. It's constant tensile competition there and for some reason we have govts that want to make us a sweat shop too.
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The American Dream... you have to be asleep to believe it. Arthur Millers 'Death of a salesman' talks to the themes outlined. Its like everything was understood in the 50's... except societal consequences just don't matter. Its one thing where 'the lot' of the majority is incrementally getting better; as opposed to things incrementally getting worst, as they have now for a lot for over a generation in the US.
With no constructive or inert outlet for anger/violence it's turned inward with depression or drug addition or outward as seen in domestic violence stats the burbling along of red neck racist ranting or where both collide in murder suicide.

I'd only differ in that the yanks don't deal well with those that don't deal well with failure.
 
I heard on the news that the USA is up to 47 school shootings for this year alone, my God. :eek:

And they still won't do anything about gun control. I am glad I don't live there.
 
Bill M said:
I heard on the news that the USA is up to 47 school shootings for this year alone, my God. :eek:

And they still won't do anything about gun control. I am glad I don't live there.
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The terrible reality is there are going to be more and no one in government will do anything to prevent it.
 

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