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[Garpal Gumnut]

All down to ALP prevarication.

This never happened under the last Liberal Government.

It is an utter disgrace and all down to Labor.

Poor bastards dying tonight.

gg

Latest from the SMH.

75 Dead.

A boat carrying about 200 asylum seekers has capsized north of Christmas Island, off the Indonesian coast.
According to Australian Customs, at about 3 pm (AEST) today, a surveillance aircraft spotted a boat in distress about 110 nautical miles north of Christmas Island.
It is believed up to 200 people could be on board, but Customs said this detail had not been confirmed.
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West Australian Police Commissioner Karl O’Callaghan said about 40 people were spotted on the upturned hull, others were in the water and up to 75 others may be dead.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...f-indonesia-20120621-20qiu.html#ixzz1yQXGe19f

gg

 

[StumpyPhantom]

Unfortunately "ALP prevarication" is relatively recent history.

Let's go back to the start of this immense tragedy. Senator Chris Evans, the then Immigration Minister, proclaiming the proudest day in his public life, as part of the newly minted Rudd Government, disbanding the Pacific Solution.

The ALP is so ashamed of this critical, tragic turning point in our history, but here's the speech delivered at the Parramatta Town Hall. I read it now, and I weep for the lives that have been lost. Those clinging desperately to the hull of their upturned boat as we speak. Let's forget for the moment whether an Australian official finds them to be a refugee. The reality is most of these lives were bearable from whence they came just a few days ago.

http://pandora.nla.gov.au/pan/67564...immi.gov.au/media/speeches/2008/ce081117.html

It is a measure of just how far we have come in the first year of the Rudd Labor Government – of how much has been achieved in terms of returning humanity and fairness to Australia’s refugee policies, and sweeping away past excesses.

Labor was elected on a platform of change. In the area of refugee policy the key themes running through the Labor platform are humanity, fairness, integrity and public confidence.

Labor committed to abolishing the Pacific Solution and this was one the first things the Rudd Labor Government did on taking office. It was also one of my greatest pleasures in politics. Neither humane nor fair, the Pacific Solution was also ineffective and wasteful.


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The role the previous government played in whipping up hysteria around boat arrivals was a shameful part of our history, and the effects of this are still being felt today. Indeed, the arrival of two boats with 26 passengers is enough for the Opposition to be making the spurious claim that we have put people smugglers back in business. A reality check is clearly needed.

So let's remind ourselves of the ALP's humanity when we next discuss their appalling Malaysia Solution.

 

[basilio]

This never happened under the last Liberal Government.(sinking of boats of asylum seekers) GG

Actually it did. SIEV X sank on 23rd Oct 2001 with the loss of 350 lives.

http://sievx.com/articles/challenging/2003/COS.pdf

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Unfortunately "ALP prevarication" is relatively recent history.

Let's go back to the start of this immense tragedy. Senator Chris Evans, the then Immigration Minister, proclaiming the proudest day in his public life, as part of the newly minted Rudd Government, disbanding the Pacific Solution.

The ALP is so ashamed of this critical, tragic turning point in our history, but here's the speech delivered at the Parramatta Town Hall. I read it now, and I weep for the lives that have been lost. Those clinging desperately to the hull of their upturned boat as we speak. Let's forget for the moment whether an Australian official finds them to be a refugee. The reality is most of these lives were bearable from whence they came just a few days ago.

http://pandora.nla.gov.au/pan/67564...immi.gov.au/media/speeches/2008/ce081117.html





So let's remind ourselves of the ALP's humanity when we next discuss their appalling Malaysia Solution.

The latest count is 90 souls lost.

All down to the ALP lack of bottle .



gg

 

[dutchie]

Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard should resign in shame.





As for the Greens....they should start taking responsibility for their policies, but we know that is not going to happen.

 

[DB008]

This one is from Pacific Solution Wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Solution

 

[tigerboi]

Re: Asylum immigrants: 5th columnists within running the show.

these people are economic refugees not ar5e out of the pants refugees & this criminal government let it all happen & openly encourage it.what a joke

said it ages ago that 5th columnists are at work with labour-greens sanctioned treachery running the show.

freekin farce people cant get a house & now worries captain emad come in run your smuggling ring,here have a new set of digs on us mate.

as pointed out by others these people FLY IN ON PASSPORTS!

****zens me really bad the way the people of this country are being treated like fools by gillard & co.

bring on this election as ive never wanted to vote so much in my life

on 4 corners some time ago..."go to australia they give you money"

this government has to be the most incompetent in history.








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[Calliope]

Here's a fine piece of "blame Abbott" hypocrisy from the Fairfax press. What they omit to say is that Labor, with the support of their ally Christine Milne, would have no need to ask for Coalition support for their Malaysia plan.

T'S time to end the blame game - and it's time Tony Abbott made it possible for Julia Gillard to implement the policy she insists will make tragedies like the one that unfolded last night less likely.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...onstructive-20120621-20qyi.html#ixzz1yUB774um

 

[Calliope]

Right on cue Green hypocrisy,

Greens immigration spokeswoman Sarah Hanson-Young said the latest loss of asylum-seekers was a tragedy, but the Greens remained opposed to offshore processing.

"The Australian Greens reaffirm our commitment to the UN Refugee Convention and to onshore assessment but today we must be focused on expressing our empathy and encouragement to the rescue effort," she said

 

[StumpyPhantom]

Right on cue Green hypocrisy,

I'm sick of Green hypocrisy but rather am waiting for Green cat fur. Saw Milne and Hanson-Young in the same screen shot the other night - RRREEEEOOOOWWWWW!!!

 

[IFocus]

Didn't think it possible but another thread reaches a new low.............

 

[Calliope]

Didn't think it possible but another thread reaches a new low.............

You can fix that by your absence.

 

[drsmith]

Rob Oakshott must be getting seriously worried that Labor is increasingly only one more disaster from him losing his bread and butter.

Mr Oakeshott singled out the Opposition as the main impediment to an agreement, saying the prospect of a solution had been hampered by "a desire by some for toxic politics to win the day".

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...mp-rob-oakeshott/story-fn59niix-1226405461935

 

[noco]

Here's a fine piece of "blame Abbott" hypocrisy from the Fairfax press. What they omit to say is that Labor, with the support of their ally Christine Milne, would have no need to ask for Coalition support for their Malaysia plan.




Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...onstructive-20120621-20qyi.html#ixzz1yUB774um

Yes, I have been quoting the same thing for quite awhile. The Labor Party never mention the lack of support from the Greens. I wonder why?????

 

[DB008]

From the Herald Sun.

JULIA Gillard faces a barrage of demands to change asylum-seeker policy to avoid further deaths after 90 perished in the latest tragedy.

Hopes fade as search continues at sea


The Prime Minister flies home tomorrow to a border-protection crisis, with her government under attack for paralysis on how to stop boat arrivals.

Ms Gillard has only next week's parliament sitting as a last chance to break a policy deadlock before a two-month break.

Former foreign minister Alexander Downer launched a blistering attack and called for an urgent reinstatement of the Pacific Solution.

"I think what has happened in the past few years is just shameful," he said.

"Labor changed policy for political reasons. They paid an appalling price for changing that policy."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/calls-for-julia-gillard-and-tony-abbott-to-solve-boat-crisis/story-e6frf7jo-1226406015150

Dismantling the Pacific Solution has proved costly in terms of physical cost and human lives.
IMO, Gillard is too arrogant and doesn't want to lose face, the 'Pacific Solution' has a very slim to nil chance of getting reinstated.

 

[drsmith]

The second comment from that article says it all.

How about a call for Juliar Gilard and Chriistine Milne to solve the boats crisis?

They are after all partners in government and are therefore at the top of the queue when it comes to responsibility for these outcomes. That's along with those spineless independents Oakshott, Windsor and Wilkie.

The Greens of course will never shift as they, more than anyone else, place idiology ahead of the country they are elected to represent and ahead of human lives.

 

[DB008]

The second comment from that article says it all.

So does this one drsmith.

"Former foreign minister Alexander Downer launched a blistering attack and called for an urgent reinstatement of the Pacific Solution." Downer is right, the Pacific Solution did work whether we liked it or not. I feel it should be returned to. It is just sheer bloody mindedness on the part of Julia Gillard and the Labor party that they will not return to it. They will not admit that John Howard was right for fear of making themselves look more foolish than they already are. Labor using politics to play with peoples lives.
Trevor C of Perth Posted at 8:20 AM Today

 

[Julia]

The second comment from that article says it all.


They are after all partners in government and are therefore at the top of the queue when it comes to responsibility for these outcomes. That's along with those spineless independents Oakshott, Windsor and Wilkie.

The Greens of course will never shift as they, more than anyone else, place idiology ahead of the country they are elected to represent and ahead of human lives.

+1 and for Alexander Downer's comments also.
Mr Windsor on ABC Radio yesterday was still managing to blame Tony Abbott.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

+1 and for Alexander Downer's comments also.
Mr Windsor on ABC Radio yesterday was still managing to blame Tony Abbott.

This never happened under Mr.Howard's government.

This is all down to the ALP.

gg

 

[So_Cynical]

All down to ALP prevarication.

This never happened under the last Liberal Government.

It is an utter disgrace and all down to Labor.

Poor bastards dying tonight.

gg

The ALP is so ashamed of this critical, tragic turning point in our history, but here's the speech delivered at the Parramatta Town Hall. I read it now, and I weep for the lives that have been lost. Those clinging desperately to the hull of their upturned boat as we speak. Let's forget for the moment whether an Australian official finds them to be a refugee. The reality is most of these lives were bearable from whence they came just a few days ago.

You two should be ashamed of your self's...peddling such lies. (SIEV X)

The right side of politics has a peculiar streak of blind righteousness...that i find most unsettling.

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+1 and for Alexander Downer's comments also.
Mr Windsor on ABC Radio yesterday was still managing to blame Tony Abbott.

Amazing...Tony Windor seems to have joined the dots the way i did 6 months ago.

If and thats a very big IF, Abbott really wants to stop the boats he can...but he wont support Labors legislation so he's lying when he says he wants to stop the boats, The ugly truth is 1 vote Tony can stop the boats and the Afghan kiddies drowning but simply refuses to do so, preferring to gain the tiny political advantage that he needs to keep his job.

How disgusting and pathetic.