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One thing I don't stay awake for is for any tangible alternatives from the serial critics of the government's border security policies.
One thing I don't stay awake for is for any tangible alternatives from the serial critics of the government's border security policies.We know its those who died at sea that keeps you up at night and keeps you fighting for stronger borders.
I didn't expect you to have an answer to your own point but I'm also surprised to see you slip off that hollow moral pedestal with a personal slur.
You repeatedly critique and push the human suffering line in that critique without offering an alternative.Not sure where you get the idea i have morals to require a pedestal.
I won't describe anyone as undesirable as you have in your post above but rather repeat the above question from it as follows,As far as I'm concerned we have a sovereign right to keep undesirables out, but electioneering and points scoring has blurred that, with both sides culpable.
We know its those who died at sea that keeps you up at night and keeps you fighting for stronger borders.
What do you think? just open up the borders to all and sundry?
You repeatedly critique and push the human suffering line in that critique without offering an alternative.
What's your alternative ?
I won't describe anyone as undesirable as you have in your post above but rather repeat the above question from it as follows,
How would you exercise our sovereign right in relation to border protection ?
How about we try this:
People, for some reason, got on a boat, cross a few seas, risk life and death to come knocking on our door.
We answer the knock. Ask that they sit in some fenced off area while we check their claims against our international obligations, our charity, our duty as a human being (maybe)...
Then if they fail to meet the conditions we have signed and obligated under; if theyy were neither oppressed or face danger if returned... we send them home. Otherwise, we either welcome them, give them a chance in life here on our soil.. or give some other country a call if we're too poor or too strap for cash to help.
That kind of solution I can come up with in two minutes. .
I thought it was just a right to know the identity of someone coming into the Country, that requires strong borders?
Much like why we check what food and vegetable matter people are bring in, to protect our agricultural products.
What do you think? just open up the borders to all and sundry?
You repeatedly critique and push the human suffering line in that critique without offering an alternative.
What's your alternative ?
I won't describe anyone as undesirable as you have in your post above but rather repeat the above question from it as follows,
How would you exercise our sovereign right in relation to border protection ?
That kind of solution I can come up with in two minutes. Costs us much much less than what we're paying Transfield or whatever name they've changed to now... and maybe in the not too distant future it serves our national interests to, one, not upset the neighbours; two, show the kids we're not total a holes and that they ought to care for others and not just themselves; three, people facing death but are saved; people with nothing but are given an opportunity; people with poverty stricken family and relatives back home... they tend to work harder, law abiding, and generally grateful and obligated people who will love the country, know its value and will defend it.
That or we tow them back, or if too late because they came too close so towed offshore camp somewhere... and make them living examples of our ballz and serious toughness to defend our borders and sovereignty from starving, sea-sick people cramped on leaky boats. So take that would-be invaders!
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Guess what happen when sea level rises by a few metres?
The cost per detainee now, compared to the 50000 that flooded in would not be in the same ballpark.
Do we fail to take into account that we take in refugees and have increased numbers?
How's Europe doing with their walk in policy?
I would like to know how many of those 50,000 are gainfully employed and how many are still living off the Australian tax payer....the bludgers.
If they were in Russia they would be sent to work in the salt mines.
People, for some reason, got on a boat, cross a few seas, risk life and death to come knocking on our door.
We answer the knock. Ask that they sit in some fenced off area while we check their claims against our international obligations, our charity, our duty as a human being (maybe)...
Then if they fail to meet the conditions we have signed and obligated under; if theyy were neither oppressed or face danger if returned... we send them home. Otherwise, we either welcome them, give them a chance in life here on our soil.. or give some other country a call if we're too poor or too strap for cash to help.
That kind of solution I can come up with in two minutes. Costs us much much less than what we're paying Transfield or whatever name they've changed to now... and maybe in the not too distant future it serves our national interests to, one, not upset the neighbours; two, show the kids we're not total a holes and that they ought to care for others and not just themselves; three, people facing death but are saved; people with nothing but are given an opportunity; people with poverty stricken family and relatives back home... they tend to work harder, law abiding, and generally grateful and obligated people who will love the country, know its value and will defend it.
That or we tow them back, or if too late because they came too close so towed offshore camp somewhere... and make them living examples of our ballz and serious toughness to defend our borders and sovereignty from starving, sea-sick people cramped on leaky boats. So take that would-be invaders!
The first was the kind of idealistic thinking Labor had when they last came to office and we saw the results.My stage 1 solution is to first cut off the Gorgan's head, then see if the numbers drop; clean up our backyard as it were, instead of standing on the beach and shouting hooray as the invader is turned around at great cost, not only financial, but also in cultural divide within our community.
Just A Modest Proposal, really.What's your alternative ?
That too reads like another criticism of current policy without offering a practical alternative.Just A Modest Proposal, really.
But I think Jonathan Swift was onto something....
Does it? I should have added a disclaimer: Sense of humour required.That too reads like another criticism of current policy without offering a practical alternative.
Sense of humour noted.Does it? I should have added a disclaimer: Sense of humour required.
Mr Dutton is in Geneva where he will meet with the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, Filippo Grandi.
The issue of Syrian refugees is expected to dominate discussions and Mr Dutton told the ABC it was possible Australia could increase its intake ”” currently at 12,000 ”” in the future.
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