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What has the world come to, to allow these barbarians to interpret a religious book to satisfy their own sexual needs with girls as young as 9 years old being raped and they interpret the Koran as being OK.

And that toothless tiger the United Nations sit on their hands and do nothing except ask for more money from the Western World.....Requets more money to put more strain om our finances

We really need our Kevvie to become the UN Secretary General....Go Kevviie to these ISIS an DASH radicals and say, I'm Kevin and I am here to help convert you back to Christianity.......I don't know what the answer is and I don't think Kevvie would either.


https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/29482781/iraqi-sex-slave-shot-dead-isis-commander/
 
noco said:
What has the world come to, to allow these barbarians to interpret a religious book to satisfy their own sexual needs with girls as young as 9 years old being raped and they interpret the Koran as being OK.

And that toothless tiger the United Nations sit on their hands and do nothing except ask for more money from the Western World.....Requets more money to put more strain om our finances

We really need our Kevvie to become the UN Secretary General....Go Kevviie to these ISIS an DASH radicals and say, I'm Kevin and I am here to help convert you back to Christianity.......I don't know what the answer is and I don't think Kevvie would either.


https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/29482781/iraqi-sex-slave-shot-dead-isis-commander/
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Think you may be right on this one noco.

RC's into child abuse in Christian schools, apparently the Muslims have escaped this time, but if you have a religious text endorsing child sex slavery you can bet it's happening in the real world.
 
SirRumpole said:
Think you may be right on this one noco.

RC's into child abuse in Christian schools, apparently the Muslims have escaped this time, but if you have a religious text endorsing child sex slavery you can bet it's happening in the real world.
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Whilst I must confess I am agnostic, I do believe Christianity, with all its faults, is the lesser of two evils when it comes to radical Islamic.
 
noco said:
What has the world come to, to allow these barbarians to interpret a religious book to satisfy their own sexual needs with girls as young as 9 years old being raped and they interpret the Koran as being OK.

And that toothless tiger the United Nations sit on their hands and do nothing except ask for more money from the Western World.....Requets more money to put more strain om our finances

We really need our Kevvie to become the UN Secretary General....Go Kevviie to these ISIS an DASH radicals and say, I'm Kevin and I am here to help convert you back to Christianity.......I don't know what the answer is and I don't think Kevvie would either.


https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/29482781/iraqi-sex-slave-shot-dead-isis-commander/
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My (English) wife lived amongst the Arabs in her early childhood and the mental scars never left her of witnessing the low acts those cultures were prone to in those days. The toilet habits, the unwashed depravity, the promiscuity of men with boys, all out in the open and the only thing between her and them, a British armed forces and chainwire fences. Allah sure works in mysterious ways.
 
noco said:
What has the world come to, to allow these barbarians to interpret a religious book to satisfy their own sexual needs with girls as young as 9 years old being raped and they interpret the Koran as being OK.

And that toothless tiger the United Nations sit on their hands and do nothing except ask for more money from the Western World.....Requets more money to put more strain om our finances

We really need our Kevvie to become the UN Secretary General....Go Kevviie to these ISIS an DASH radicals and say, I'm Kevin and I am here to help convert you back to Christianity.......I don't know what the answer is and I don't think Kevvie would either.


https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/29482781/iraqi-sex-slave-shot-dead-isis-commander/
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It seems India can at times be just as backward, and they don't really have religion as a justification, just an antiquated caste system.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/petitio...t-gets-175000-signatures-20150831-gjc38r.html

The human rights group began the petition last week after 23-year-old Meenakshi Kumari, her 15-year-old sister and their family were forced to flee their northern India village in May after their brother eloped with a higher caste, married woman.

An un-elected village council, dominated by upper caste "Jat" men, in Uttar Pradesh state on July 30 allegedly ordered the two "Dalit" sisters be raped and paraded naked with their faces blackened as punishment for their brother's actions.
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But then are we much better in the west? How often do sordid stories come out of the sports locker rooms and prestigious private schools? Are we just better at keeping it out of the public eye?
 
Fully agree with your stance, Europe particularly London has shown that most of these groups are there for an easy ride on welfare and there is absolutely no attempt to integrate; rather the opposite, extremist religious views are being pushed on the country that showed its kind hand.

Europe has paid the price, now Australia will too

Fugazi said:
I'm sure most will agree that to give genuine asylum seekers a chance to carry on a normal, productive life is a moral responsibility, but it's a short step from the sublime to the ridiculous.

I moved to Brissy from London nearly 3 years ago because I didn't want to bring my kids up in a place that was rapidly being over-run by economic migrants, spongers and downright criminals who's first and last words of English are 'Asylum' and 'Benefit'.

London is rapidly going down the pan because of a combination of ridiculous European legislation that opened the floodgates, and the fact that it is just plain bloody difficult to tell who is genuine and who is a crook.

I'm proud to have become an Australian citizen last week, and I would hate to see this fantastic country fall into the same trap. Better to be conservative with the nations compassion and go to whatever lengths are necessary to ensure the right people are getting the help they need, than to risk the whole country suffering because a few politicians don't want to be criticised for being harsh.
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drsmith said:
Transit countries such as Greece and Indonesia are a few km away ?

People movement is determined by both push factors and pull factors. Push factors were Labor's first effort at denial when the boats started to come after softening the former Howard government's policy stance.

What is happening in Europe at the moment has a strong element of pull factors as it did in Australia under Labor. The example that Noco has highlighted illustrates this and the tragic consequences for that family.
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Pretty sure was replying to fact that refugees weren't happy with staying in Turkey - a few Kms away from Syria and IS?

Saw some headline that Turkey might be heading towards civil war soon. And Greece... have you seen Greece? The ancient ruins and the modern economic ruins? They're refugees, they know ruins when they see one.

Anyway, point was... if you live in a flood prone or bushfire prone area and your house got washed or burnt down once... you'd probably want to build your new house somewhere higher and less bushwhacked if you're forced to rebuild and relocate.. It's what normal human being would do.
 
No Trust said:
Fully agree with your stance, Europe particularly London has shown that most of these groups are there for an easy ride on welfare and there is absolutely no attempt to integrate; rather the opposite, extremist religious views are being pushed on the country that showed its kind hand.

Europe has paid the price, now Australia will too
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So Fugazi... were you an economic or a "moral" migrant to Australia? A bit extreme to seek a better life for your children all the way down under... could have just moved a few suburbs away right? And you seek it in Queensland? :D


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I'm sure most will agree that to give genuine asylum seekers a chance to carry on a normal, productive life is a moral responsibility, but it's a short step from the sublime to the ridiculous.

I moved to Brissy from London nearly 3 years ago because I didn't want to bring my kids up in a place that was rapidly being over-run by economic migrants, spongers and downright criminals who's first and last words of English are 'Asylum' and 'Benefit'.

London is rapidly going down the pan because of a combination of ridiculous European legislation that opened the floodgates, and the fact that it is just plain bloody difficult to tell who is genuine and who is a crook.

I'm proud to have become an Australian citizen last week, and I would hate to see this fantastic country fall into the same trap. Better to be conservative with the nations compassion and go to whatever lengths are necessary to ensure the right people are getting the help they need, than to risk the whole country suffering because a few politicians don't want to be criticised for being harsh.
 
Trust Gillian Triggs to suggest actions that would encourage the people smuggling trade,

Professor Triggs urged the government to adopt a “practical” approach to resettling Syrian boat arrivals currently held in Australia, on Nauru and on Manus Island.

“They came, as the Australian government says, as unauthorised maritime arrivals but I think we have to simply move away from that thinking and accept that they are refugees asking our protection and they should be treated equally,” she said.
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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...520890946?sv=9f21e8d48ddfc9811a5c6f12ee1147e5
 
luutzu said:
Pretty sure was replying to fact that refugees weren't happy with staying in Turkey - a few Kms away from Syria and IS?

Saw some headline that Turkey might be heading towards civil war soon. And Greece... have you seen Greece? The ancient ruins and the modern economic ruins? They're refugees, they know ruins when they see one.

Anyway, point was... if you live in a flood prone or bushfire prone area and your house got washed or burnt down once... you'd probably want to build your new house somewhere higher and less bushwhacked if you're forced to rebuild and relocate.. It's what normal human being would do.
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Turkey occupied a reasonable area when I last checked a map.

If they're not happy about staying in Turkey or Greece, how can they be happy transiting through these countries ?

Asylum is about seeking refuge from persecution, not an economic leg up.
 
drsmith said:
Turkey occupied a reasonable area when I last checked a map.

If they're not happy about staying in Turkey or Greece, how can they be happy transiting through these countries ?

Asylum is about seeking refuge from persecution, not an economic leg up.
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What would you do if you were them Smith?

Move to Turkey for a few years, wait til the bombs stopped, then move back home and dust off the house you were forced to abandon?
 
luutzu said:
What would you do if you were them Smith?

Move to Turkey for a few years, wait til the bombs stopped, then move back home and dust off the house you were forced to abandon?
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Anyone logically would seek to advance their situation but as I said above, asylum is about seeking refuge from persecution, not an economic leg up.
 
No Trust said:
Fully agree with your stance, Europe particularly London has shown that most of these groups are there for an easy ride on welfare and there is absolutely no attempt to integrate; rather the opposite, extremist religious views are being pushed on the country that showed its kind hand.

Europe has paid the price, now Australia will too
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Where do you even begin with this 'pro forma' BNP tripe.... except to see it for what it is.
 
orr said:
Where do you even begin with this 'pro forma' BNP tripe.... except to see it for what it is.
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There are parts of London and Paris now where a non muslim is definitely not welcome.

It's perfectly natural that people from various races will tends to settle in certain areas of a city, make things a bit like home. You see this in cabramatta, or so many aussies used to congregate at earls court in London it was nick named Kangaroo valley.

Unfortunately the muslims seem to have annexed parts of London and Paris which is rather worrying. If someone welcomes you into your house you don't go and claim one of the bedrooms as your own.
 
sydboy007 said:
There are parts of London and Paris now where a non muslim is definitely not welcome.

It's perfectly natural that people from various races will tends to settle in certain areas of a city, make things a bit like home. You see this in cabramatta, or so many aussies used to congregate at earls court in London it was nick named Kangaroo valley.

Unfortunately the muslims seem to have annexed parts of London and Paris which is rather worrying. If someone welcomes you into your house you don't go and claim one of the bedrooms as your own.
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Really? Do they take over or it appear that way because they're "everywhere"?

There are places in Sydney that's completely foreign to me and it's not because I or my kind aren't welcome. Just I don't go there because I don't know anyone there. Took the family a few years back on a ferry to some northern beaches and it's like I'm overseas... the shopfronts are different and there's a lot of white people :D

I think ethnic group live around each other more for business and cultural/language benefits than anything else. Imagine an Asian living in the Blue Mountains... where is he going to find rice? The 2kg bag from IGA won't do it.
 
luutzu said:
Really? Do they take over or it appear that way because they're "everywhere"?

There are places in Sydney that's completely foreign to me and it's not because I or my kind aren't welcome. Just I don't go there because I don't know anyone there. Took the family a few years back on a ferry to some northern beaches and it's like I'm overseas... the shopfronts are different and there's a lot of white people :D

I think ethnic group live around each other more for business and cultural/language benefits than anything else. Imagine an Asian living in the Blue Mountains... where is he going to find rice? The 2kg bag from IGA won't do it.
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Both orr and luutzu live in a dream land: either they are young: we all have been with the naive view of the world we all have then,
are trolls : in that case who care
Or are from some ethnic background and see themselves attacked in each negative view on islam migrants:
Well I am not from anglosaxon roots either and am a migrant;
The difference is that I lived in a contry subject to a muslim invation, as i was poor, young I lived among the estates,
and what a shock for the idealistic left leaning kid: that is the key reason I sent immigration forms to this country;
No it is not a matter of numbers,or racism as many of the north african muslims are whiter than your average italian or greek:
I was happy living in richmond among the vietnamese community when in richmond (Melb) 20y ago;
But muslims (in general: obviously I am sure you will find exception, but not along keen followers) are here to change you and if failing, to anihilate you:
there are many areas in France at least (here I know what I am talking about) were you will not go and escape physically unharmed due to your colour/background, nor do cops/firemen/social security or any form of declared authority.
And I do not wish this to happen here, just hope it is not too late..;
As for migration overall whether white, christian or not; from both an economic and an ecological point of view it is not in my view welcome in Australia today.Yes we could have more unhabitants but not with the country managed as it is, and I do not see it changing soon...
All I have to say is said here, not much more I can add, orr and luzztzu can unleash....
 

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