Asylum immigrants - Green Light

[SirRumpole]

The scam with climate change in my view is not global warming itself but rather the abuse of it to achieve broader social objectives.

What broader social objectives ?

The same goes for refugee resettlement. There's a role for nations to play in resettling displaced peoples fleeing persecution but the process presently is too easily corrupted by those seeking to abuse it to advance broader social objectives. That in turn opens the door for large scale illegal people smuggling operations. We've all seen the outcomes of that and continue to see the outcomes of that.

What broader social objectives ?

 

[Tisme]

Australians should wake up before it is too late.

and do what? Your preferred party is ruling the place, what are we supposed to do that they aren't already elected to implement on our behalf?

Can I also remind you of another race of bomb crazy and murdering/violent peoples who managed to enter our country, rob people at gunpoint, oppose authority, resent assimilation, and bring a repressive hocus pocus religion with them:

[drum role] I give you ....... badum-tish ..THE IRISH [/drum role]

 

[dutchie]

The biggest political mistake made this decade.

Angela Merkel - "We'll take 800,000"

Humanitarian, yes. Practical, no.

Every Tom Dick and Harry looking for a better life will want to go to Germany (Europe).

800,000 ? try 8,000,000 or 80,000,000.

 

[Ijustnewit]

The biggest political mistake made this decade.

Angela Merkel - "We'll take 800,000"

Humanitarian, yes. Practical, no.

Every Tom Dick and Harry looking for a better life will want to go to Germany (Europe).

800,000 ? try 8,000,000 or 80,000,000.

I saw that this morning on my favourite the ABC NEWS 24 , now Merkel wants to close the border again .
Good luck with that
Also she wants her border patrol to start doing immigration checks of papers , I wonder if those radicals from Melbourne and their placards are on their way over there with the social media crew to try and shut them down
Meanwhile the ABC continue run the heartfelt stories about more drowning's and the epic journey these poor people face.
At least the garbos will be in employment for years to come with piles of strewn trash seen for many a mile.

 

[drsmith]

What broader social objectives ?

(Broadly speaking, wealth redistribution) x 2.

 

[SirRumpole]

(Broadly speaking, wealth redistribution) x 2.

Erm, could you expand on that ?

As far as AGW goes, from where does the wealth go from and to ? Coal mines to renewable industries ? What's wrong with that ? Both these sectors consist of private companies (mostly), so what is the problem if money goal from coal to more efficient companies ? Surely the idea is to encourage as many businesses as possible to compete for the consumer dollar ?

Your reasoning on refugees is a bit more obscure. Who loses the money and who gets it ?

 

[luutzu]

The biggest political mistake made this decade.

Angela Merkel - "We'll take 800,000"

Humanitarian, yes. Practical, no.

Every Tom Dick and Harry looking for a better life will want to go to Germany (Europe).

800,000 ? try 8,000,000 or 80,000,000.

How do you reckon they'll get that better life once they're in Germany Dutch?

They'll milk welfare and the German's taxpayers generosity, considered themselves retired for life and spend all day at the beach or the local RSL or the park?

Or maybe... maybe in Germany there's no threat of getting blown up by jets and drones, no threats of running into crossfires, and maybe your home would still be standing on your return from the beach. That kind of safety and luxury might actually motivate people to work hard and rebuild their lives.

Tell you what... if you go to Syria or any country in the ME right now, take the same journey these refugees take, and once you reach Germany, I'll pay all the welfare you would receive from the gov't, for life! I wouldn't even care if you then take up a second or third job... will still pay you. Deal?

Mate, people value life more than wealth, guarantee you.
So maybe if we stop our grand strategy and stop liberating their country or their neighbours, stop blowing up their infrastructure (then of course rebuilt it, one day), maybe doing things that will costs us nothing will actually not drive millions to seek refuge. Maybe them living as they have always lived - poor, but living; making not much of a living but it put food on the table... that might be enough for most people.

Nice and easy to complaint about greedy Muslims when you're comfortable. Try switching off the power, the water supply, the internet, not drive and stop work for a couple months and see if you too would want a "better life".

 

[Ijustnewit]

We are starting see the true behaviour of these asylum seekers now they are being fenced off. Scenes on the news look very similar to what you would expect back in their homelands. I don't get my way so we burn , riot and throw bottles and rocks. One wonders what trouble these people will cause in the future once they are let in as settlers. News from the ABC .

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-...water-cannon-and-tear-gas-at-migrants/6782056

 

[luutzu]

We are starting see the true behaviour of these asylum seekers now they are being fenced off. Scenes on the news look very similar to what you would expect back in their homelands. I don't get my way so we burn , riot and throw bottles and rocks. One wonders what trouble these people will cause in the future once they are let in as settlers. News from the ABC .

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-...water-cannon-and-tear-gas-at-migrants/6782056

So what about the ones who are behaving themselves? They're not yet showing their true colours or they don't count and we're going for the lowest denominator.

btw, you don't sound the Zen Buddhist type either... more the Inspector Javert - you break the law I break your neck type. Judge not lest blah blah...

 

[Tisme]

We are starting see the true behaviour of these asylum seekers now they are being fenced off. Scenes on the news look very similar to what you would expect back in their homelands. I don't get my way so we burn , riot and throw bottles and rocks. One wonders what trouble these people will cause in the future once they are let in as settlers. News from the ABC .

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-...water-cannon-and-tear-gas-at-migrants/6782056

Back in their homelands they would be brutalised and gone missing.

You think maybe if they put some effort into protesting about Islam and its soldiers they might enjoy what Europe has in their own back yard? I can't figure out why Europe, when Paradise is surely in their neighbouring Islamic countries where Allah loves everyone and everyone loves one another to bits.

 

[SirRumpole]

Back in their homelands they would be brutalised and gone missing.

You think maybe if they put some effort into protesting about Islam and its soldiers they might enjoy what Europe has in their own back yard? I can't figure out why Europe, when Paradise is surely in their neighbouring Islamic countries where Allah loves everyone and everyone loves one another to bits.

Muslim countries aren't big on welfare spending.

 

[DB008]

Might need a new thread for the refugee crisis in Europe?

Anyways, it is out of control. Will only get worse.

This video below happened in Switzerland. Crazy.

Warning, graphic content below, but it is the truth and needs to be seen what is starting to happen in Europe. Mainstream media is not covering it.

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[luutzu]

Back in their homelands they would be brutalised and gone missing.

You think maybe if they put some effort into protesting about Islam and its soldiers they might enjoy what Europe has in their own back yard? I can't figure out why Europe, when Paradise is surely in their neighbouring Islamic countries where Allah loves everyone and everyone loves one another to bits.

Yea, right. It's their religion and their culture that's the cause of their poverty. We're just there to help rebuild the place and our generosity is now being extended to help them there in their own home and also to help those who refused our help there but flee away because paradise from the constant bombings just cant come quick enough for some people.

 

[luutzu]

Might need a new thread for the refugee crisis in Europe?

Anyways, it is out of control. Will only get worse.

This video below happened in Switzerland. Crazy.

Warning, graphic content below, but it is the truth and needs to be seen what is starting to happen in Europe. Mainstream media is not covering it.

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Told ya, two days... but this is probably the fourth since I said it.

 

[drsmith]

The OSB monthly update for August has been published and it's been another month with no boats.

http://newsroom.border.gov.au/chann...releases/monthly-operational-update-31-august

 

[noco]

The OSB monthly update for August has been published and it's been another month with no boats.

http://newsroom.border.gov.au/chann...releases/monthly-operational-update-31-august

Great stuff Doc, but don't be surprised if you are not branded by the same socialist left iron as I have......It is a wonder the LUG party have not illustrated a cracked record in response to your post....They don't like being reminded of their mistakes and to make matters worse Shorten will open the borders again "IF' he was to get back into power again.

 

[drsmith]

Great stuff Doc, but don't be surprised if you are not branded by the same socialist left iron as I have......It is a wonder the LUG party have not illustrated a cracked record in response to your post....They don't like being reminded of their mistakes and to make matters worse Shorten will open the borders again "IF' he was to get back into power again.

I'm hoping that a positive outcome of the current European debacle is that after the present social experiment is over, the importance of maintaining individual nation sovereignty will be better recognised at a global level.

That the Abbott government acted decisively as it did means we will be spared to a greater extent the heartache Europe is experiencing and will experience in the immediate and perhaps the long term future.

If the serial critics from the time of the Coalition in opposition to now still don't like it, that's their right and their problem. The results very much speak for themselves in comparison to what happened under the previous Labor administration.

 

[drsmith]

The people smugglers keep trying,

A GROUP of asylum seekers, including children, has reportedly been detained in southern Java after an unsuccessful attempt to journey by boat to Australia.

THE 21 from countries including Bangladesh, India and Pakistan were found floating off Jayanti Beach, Cianjur, early on Wednesday, local website Okezone reported.

Reports say they had set out for Christmas Island but were hampered by big waves, and they floated for three days without fuel before local fishermen found them.

"When we found them, they were lacking food and drink," a fisherman named Mamun told Okezone.
"Most of them are adults and some brought kids.

"We took them to the beach and then they were secured in Cidaun Police Station."

Immigration officials were preparing to collect information from the asylum seekers, the report said.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...d-in-java-report/story-fn3dxix6-1227540924079

 

[DB008]

A world of long-term welfare for refugees​

MORE than 60 per cent of refugees to Australia have failed to get a job after five years, according to a damning Federal Government report into the humanitarian settlement program.

And 83 per cent of those households now rely on welfare payments for income.

The greatest unemployment rate was recorded among new arrivals from Iraq and Afghanistan, with less than one in 10 finding full-time work and 93.7 per cent of households receiving Centrelink payments.

The statistics are contained in a Department of Immigration and Citizenship report released last Friday under the cover of the royal wedding.

It is the first investigation into settlement of refugees in more than a decade.

The study of more than 8500 humanitarian entrants revealed that only 31 per cent of humanitarian refugees were considered "employed" after five years.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/a-world-of-long-term-welfare-for-refugees/story-e6freuzr-1226050094427​

 

[noco]

The Muslims state they will take over Belgium and introduce Sharia Law with their aim to dominate the world ASAP.

This latest invasion of Europe by the boat people is a well organized event, as I have said some years ago on this forum, they want an Islamic state and are setting up their cells in various countries through out the Western World, hence the invasion of Muslims into Australia 2008/2013 under Rudd and Gillard.

The likes of ISIS, the Taliban and all their other splinter organizations is the Islamic army at work.


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