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Malaysia solution Abbott government style has so much more going for it than the former Labor government's version.

BOATLOADS of asylum-seekers who have failed to make it to Australia are being intercepted trying to return to Malaysia from Indonesia, says the head of Malaysia’s border command.

Mohd Amdan Kurish, director-general of the Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency, said Australia’s crackdown on boatpeople was having a dramatic impact further up the people-smuggling chain, in Malaysia.

“We have seen a number of attempts for those boats that have failed to make it to Australia re-tracking back and Malaysia is seen as the possible destination for them to retreat to,” Admiral Amdan said yesterday in Sydney.

“We have managed to intercept these people returning back from this adventure that they are trying to undertake to Australia, which they fail, and they re-track back their positions into Malaysia through the Straits of Malacca. We have seen this trend quite dramatically increasing in the Malacca Straits.”

He said the boats intercepted had been carrying asylum-seekers from the Middle East and South Asia.

Admiral Amdan’s comments came after The Australian revealed Australia’s crackdown on boatpeople had caused a substantial drop in the number of asylum-seekers arriving in Indonesia.

Monthly applications for asylum-seeker registrations handled by the UN High Commissioner for Refugees office in Jakarta fell 71 per cent between February last year and last month.

Immigration Minister Scott Morrison said Australia’s policies were benefiting the region by disrupting the people-smuggling chain.

“What those figures from the UNHCR already indicate is that drying up of the pipeline,” Mr Morrison said. “When we stop the boats, you help the region ... if we have stronger borders then that relieves the pressure on our neighbours.”

A senior Indonesian immigration official said yesterday the steep drop in UNHCR asylum-seeker registrations correlated with the department’s experience of unregistered “illegal immigrants”.

In the 12 months to January, the number of unregistered asylum-seekers detected by Immigration had fallen 25-30 per cent.

“The number of people who have not been registered at UNHCR is also clearly declining,” said the officer, who asked not to be identified.

The officer said it was clear asylum-seekers’ preference for Indonesia as a transit country had declined since Australia began taking a hardline against boatpeople resettlement last July.

Indonesia remained concerned about thwarted asylum-seekers “stacking up” in the country.

Agus Barnas, the spokesman for Politics Security and Law Co-ordinating Minister Djoko Suyanto, acknowledged the UNHCR Indonesia figures showed a reduction in asylum-seeker arrivals.

“Yes, but actually it still becomes problem for us because many (asylum-seekers) are stranded here,” he said.

“It can create social conflict.”

Jakarta wanted Australia to return to a regional, multilateral approach to refugee flows, Mr Agus said, “not just Australia getting the benefit without thinking about the impact in transit countries”.

Malaysian officials yesterday inspected an Australian Customs Bay-class patrol vessel in Sydney, one of two such vessels to be given to Malaysia next year at a cost of $1.2 million to taxpayers.

The vessels will be used to patrol the Straits of Malacca, which separates the Malay Peninsula and the Indonesian island of Sumatra.

Mr Morrison said the Straits of Malacca was a key pathway for people-smugglers making their way to Australia and other transnational criminals moving between Malaysia and Indonesia, and the vessels would support Malaysia’s efforts to police the crossing point.

“When we make our region’s borders stronger we make Australia’s borders stronger,” he said.

Malaysian Home Affairs Minister Ahmad Zahid said that Malaysia and Australia had been co-operating to combat transnational crime, including people smuggling and terrorism. He said Mr Morrison would travel to Malaysia to sign a new memorandum of understanding, which would broaden the spectrum of transnational crimes the nations would work together to combat.
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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...urn-to-malaysia/story-fn9hm1gu-1226833250633#
 
drsmith said:
Malaysia solution Abbott government style has so much more going for it than the former Labor government's version.
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Indonesia remained concerned about thwarted asylum-seekers “stacking up” in the country.

Agus Barnas, the spokesman for Politics Security and Law Co-ordinating Minister Djoko Suyanto, acknowledged the UNHCR Indonesia figures showed a reduction in asylum-seeker arrivals.

“Yes, but actually it still becomes problem for us because many (asylum-seekers) are stranded here,” he said.

“It can create social conflict.”
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Never mind the problems they cause us!!!
Those Indonesians are unbelievable!

I wonder how dear Marty's little chat with John Kerry went?
 
Chris45 said:
I wonder how dear Marty's little chat with John Kerry went?
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Something like the following I would suggest,

Marty: We're only jumping up and down for domestic political purposes in an election year.
John: I figured that.

Still, they complain too much as you've highlighted above.

Also of interest today is this article on the recent Manus riots,

http://www.news.com.au/national/sho...island-bloodbath/story-fncynjr2-1226833207973

Of particular interest is this,

G4S will cease providing security at the detention centre within a month, after the Abbott Government failed to renew its contract — though this was decided prior to the recent riots.
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G4S's contract to provide services to the Manus facility dates back to the previous Labor government.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/155097545/Manus-Island-detention-facility-contract

The asylum seeker who is deceased as a result of this week's riots on Manus Island arrived on Xmas Island on July 24 2013 and was transferred to Manus on August 27.

Today's OSB update confirms another week with no boats. During the past week, 7 IMA's from offshore processing centres (Manus Island) volunteered to return home taking this total to 158 since the commencement of OSB. The past 9 weeks has seen no boats arriving and only 2 IMA's transferred to Australia in that period.
 
The deceased asylum seeker was of Iranian descent. As far as I know there is no war there. Sure, it's not a nice place to live, but so are a lot of other places. You have to draw the line somewhere.
 
Smells like children overboard:

Australian security staff will be investigated over their role in the Manus Island detention centre riot that left one man dead and scores injured, Immigration Minister Scott Morrison has conceded.

In an extraordinary statement issued late last night, Mr Morrison admitted that much of the information he had given to the Australian public since Monday’s riot was now in doubt.

The most explosive admission is the revelation that most of the violence probably took place within the detention centre's fences, rather than outside its boundaries, as Mr Morrison had previously claimed.

“I wish to confirm that, contrary to initial reports received, I have received further information that indicates that the majority of the riotous behaviour that occurred, and the response to that behaviour to restore order to the centre, took place within the perimeter of the centre,” the minister said in the statement.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...t-was-wrong-20140222-339hs.html#ixzz2u393gfiN
 
rumpole said:
The deceased asylum seeker was of Iranian descent. As far as I know there is no war there. Sure, it's not a nice place to live, but so are a lot of other places. You have to draw the line somewhere.
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Yes, sadly he was a long way from home.
 
banco said:
Smells like children overboard:
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The Minister during the week sent the heavy brass to Manus in the form of Angus Campbell.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/19/manus-mission-general-angus-campbell-sent

The government I suspect became increasingly aware during the week that something was amiss with the official information they were getting.

The following version of what happened contains quiet a lot of detail,

http://www.news.com.au/national/loc...detention-centre/story-fncynjr2-1226834926562
 
drsmith said:
The Minister during the week sent the heavy brass to Manus in the form of Angus Campbell.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/19/manus-mission-general-angus-campbell-sent

The government I suspect became increasingly aware during the week that something was amiss with the official information they were getting.

The following version of what happened contains quiet a lot of detail,

http://www.news.com.au/national/loc...detention-centre/story-fncynjr2-1226834926562
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Yes I suppose local guards, would get upset if middle eastern detainees, were threatening to abuse the women folk.

Why not, just load them up and ship them back, then let the process begin again.
 
sptrawler said:
Yes I suppose local guards, would get upset if middle eastern detainees, were threatening to abuse the women folk.

Why not, just load them up and ship them back, then let the process begin again.
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I suspect that what happened that local authorities were left to deal with the Monday night riot and realising the carnage afterwards attempted to cover their tracks in the initial information that ultimately found its way to Scott Morrison. This may have also included G4S.

There is no doubt that the timing of Scott Morrison's update on Saturday evening was political and this could be in part to minimise any potential diplomatic tensions between Australia and PNG over this.

This government has in effect been left with the legacy on one of Kevin Rudd's rushed policies in the lead up to the last election. With the focus on the front line (stopping the boats), not enough attention has been paid to the short term legacy of Kevin Rudd's Manus solution beyond maintaining it. This government though didn't renew G4S's Manus contract. That would suggest that the foundations had been laid for longer term centre management which at least lays a more solid foundation for the future.

Politically, Scott Morrison is bruised from this but he is very much in front on the broader issue. Calls for his sacking from the hypocritical child senator is wishful thinking on her part.

Immigration is the subject of a senate estimates hearing tomorrow. That should be interesting.

Transfield takes over garrison and welfare services on March 1.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...centres-contract/story-e6frg8zx-1226835697208
 
Keep pushing the message:



‘My bloody oath!’



So many have explained how this land is made up of immigrants.

Maybe we should turn to our history books and point out to people why today's Australian is not willing to accept the new kind of immigrant any longer.

Back in 1900 (after federation) when there was a rush from all areas of Europe to come to Australia, people had to get off a ship and stand in a long line in Sydney and be documented.

Some would even get down on their hands and knees and kiss the ground.

They made a pledge to uphold the laws and support their new country in good and bad times. They made learning English a primary rule in their new Australian households and some even changed their names to blend in with their new home.

They had waved good bye to their birth place to give their children a new life and did everything in their power to help their children assimilate into one culture.

Nothing was handed to them. No free lunches, no welfare, no labor laws to protect them.

All they had were the skills, craftsmanship and desire they had brought with them to trade for a future of prosperity.

Most of their children came of age when World War II broke out.

Australians fought along side men whose parents had come straight over from Germany, Italy, France, Japan, Czechoslovakia, Russia, Sweden, Poland and so many other places None of these first generation Australians ever gave any thought about what country their parents had come from.

They were Australians fighting Hitler, Mussolini and the Emperor of Japan.

They were defending the Freedom as one people.

When we liberated France, no-one in those villages was looking for the Ukrainian-Australian or the German-Australian or the Irish-Australian.

The people of France saw only Australians.

And we carried one flag that represented our country. Not one of those immigrant sons would have thought about picking up another country's flag and waving it to represent who they were.

It would have been a disgrace to their parents who had sacrificed so much to be here. These immigrants truly knew what it meant to be an Australian

And here we are in 2014 with a new kind of immigrant who wants the same rights and privileges, but not to learn or speak English.

They want to achieve it by playing with a different set of rules, one that includes an Australian passport and a guarantee of being faithful to their mother country.

That's not what being an Australian is all about.

Australians have been very open-hearted and open-minded regarding immigrants, whether they were fleeing poverty, dictatorship, persecution, or whatever else makes us think of those aforementioned immigrants who truly did ADOPT our country, and our flag and our morals and our customs. And left their wars, hatred, and divisions behind.

I believe that the immigrants who landed in Australia in the early 1900s deserve better than that for the toil, hard work and sacrifice.

I think they would be appalled that they are being used as an example by those waving foreign country flags, fighting foreign battles on our soil, making Australians change to suit their religions and cultures, and wanting to change our country's fabric by claiming discrimination when we do not give in to their demands.

It 's about time we get real and stand up for our forefathers rights, we are AUSTRALIANS!

NO MORE POLITICAL CORRECTNESS.

NO MORE not saying CHRISTMAS in our stores and in our schools.

WE EAT PORK, WE DRINK BEER AND WE SPEAK ENGLISH AND WE WANT OUR AUSTRALIA BACK!

PLEASE KEEP THIS MOVING !

The origin of this post is unknown but it is being realistic to say the least.
 

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Another orange lifeboat has been deployed, this time returning 26 to Java.

This is the third of the Operation Sovereign Borders lifeboats to be returned to Indonesia after the first was deployed on January 15.
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In the past 9 weeks, 7 boatloads carrying approximately 270 passengers have been returned to Indonesia, 4 in their own boat and 3 in lifeboats. Of the asylum seekers, only 2 have been accepted by immigration, both on medical grounds.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...k-boat-lands-in-indonesia-20140225-33dn7.html
 
banco said:
Come on the whole point of the PNG solution is that PNG is an absolute ****hole that people won't want to live in. Pretty funny the Australian feels compelled to talk the place up now that Abbott is in.
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The point of the PNG solution under Kevin the second was to salvage a few votes for Labor in the wake of the wreckage left from the Gillard government.

The point of offshore processing under the Howard government and this one is as part of a broader objective of stopping the boats.
 
Stephen Conroy couldn't get the red underpants on Lieutenant-General Angus Campbell's head.

A SENIOR Labor frontbencher has been forced to withdraw an accusation that Operation Sovereign Borders commander Angus Campbell has been engaged in a political cover-up.

The accusation by opposition defence spokesman Stephen Conroy, during an exchange over secrecy surrounding asylum-seeker operations, prompted the suspension of a Senate estimates hearing by its chairman, Liberal senator Ian Macdonald.

He ruled the hearing would not resume until the remark was withdrawn, which Senator Conroy did after a 10-minute suspension.

Senator Conroy had quizzed Lieutenant-General Campbell about Australian SAS activities in Iraq during the first Gulf War. General Campbell has served in the SAS but was not involved in the conflict.

Senator Conroy pressed General Campbell over his past refusal to divulge details of “on-water operations”, saying he could absolutely understand the need for operation secrecy when troops are operating behind enemy lines. “But what I'm intrigued by, why stopping a number of wooden boats has the same level of secrecy requirements,” he said.

General Campbell responded by saying potential damage to bilateral and regional relationships was a reason for withholding information.

“Can't we handle the truth?” Senator Conroy asked the general repeatedly.

“You can't tell us the truth ... because you might upset an international neighbour that's called a political cover-up.

“You're engaged in a political cover-up.”

General Campbell said he found the remark offensive.

Earlier, another Labor senator pursued a similar line of questioning.

Kim Carr used Defence media releases about SAS operations in Afghanistan and anti-drug trafficking operations ”” issued just days after field operations ”” to question government secrecy over border security operations.

“There was no hesitation while the army was still engaged in broader operations against the Taliban to provide public information,” Senator Carr said.

General Campbell rejected claims of hypocrisy or inconsistency, pointing out that Australian troops were sent to Afghanistan in 2001 but a pilot program embedding media did not begin until 2009. “If we fast forward to today, Operation Sovereign Borders has been underway for four-and-a-half months,” he said.

If the Afghanistan model was applied it would be seven years and six months before an embed media program was established.

“That's absurd. I'm not suggesting that's the case,” General Campbell said, adding it was not appropriate to conduct an Afghanistan-like embed program.
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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...of-boats-coverup/story-fn9hm1gu-1226837446653
 
What a mob of hypocrits the Greens and many of the Labor lefties are to hold a candle light vigil over the death of one Iranian riotor on Manus Island....Where were these radicals when 1200 asylum seekers lost their lives at sea due to the stupid policy of Labor and the Greens?

And furthermore they have not only asked to have Morrison sacked but are demanding a Royal commission for what may I ask?

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opi...their-choice-fix/story-e6frg7bo-1226837600745
 

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