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A case for copper?

Do you believe EV/HEVs will negatively impact copper supply?

  • Yes, it's happening now

    Votes: 2 4.2%
  • Yes, but not for quite a few years

    Votes: 18 37.5%
  • Don't know, more information might help

    Votes: 14 29.2%
  • No, there's no credible evidence

    Votes: 10 20.8%
  • No, don't care, on your bike!

    Votes: 4 8.3%

  • Total voters
    48
Why does copper fascinate investors so much?

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I am forecasting 2022 production at above 10M units and 2023 at nearer 18M units. I think Figure 15.1 is an underestimate of no less than 100% by 2030.​
Not by much, but it did happen:
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(Note that EV Sales had 10.5 million.)
What's ahead?
Bloomberg NEF the IEA and EV Sales are all reckoning on a tad over 14 million EV this year:
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I reckon 15 million easy and more likely 16 million EVs will be produced. BYD and Tesla together should add over 2 million more EVs based on run rate trends, so I can't see the other 100+ manufacturers only adding an extra 2 million over 2022's numbers. And in 2024 all the legacy automakers will be trying to catch up with Tesla, so unless there's a change in trend the above chart will see 2026's forecast out by 8-10 million.

Copper availability has been tight for over 2 years, but I believe it will get desperately so before year's end. LME's warehouses show over 80k tonnes in stock, but in reality 55k tonnes is cancelled, leaving a mere 25k tonnes available for purchase. SHFE's warehouses have less than 20k tonnes in stock and Comex has another 30k tonnes, but I don't know how much of their stock is cancelled. Either way, warehouse levels are only enough to meet one day's present consumption.
 
Below is the 5-year LME stock numbers for copper:
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If you were a chartist you would note the trend of both lower highs and lows, suggesting more lows on the cards. However, typically with commodities low inventories lead to higher prices and a demand response kicks in to reverse the trend.
But as you can see below, higher prices kicked in over 2 years ago but failed to rally as stock levels dwindled to record historical lows:
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In China, SHFE's warehouses have rapidly depleted their copper stock in rent months, falling from 145k tonnes to this level yesterday:
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In America Comex's warehouse levels rose by 3k tonnes over the past 2 months, so it isn't an important player in the global resupply chain. Nevertheless, it is presently on par with LME warehouse stock availability so might delay a sharp copper price rise for a few days if global stock levels near total depletion.
 
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