Good afternoon all.
I've read all the posts before me,
now can we go back and rewrite the posts,
with the view, it was your son the 3 police filled with 5 or 6 bullets.
The answers will be interesting.
And a question or two to the police officers out there,
Why were so many rounds fired to the target ?
Why did 3 police all have to discharge their hand guns at once?
And how could everybody ALL have discharged their hand guns, and some a number of times at once, at the same time ?
After the first chest shot or lower the target would have been no treat to anyone.
Kind regards,
UB
"Yes, excuse me, please stay still while I put a fork in you and try and take a piece of you with my crappy Target steak knives."all this armchair quarterback "omg incompetent cops" what-if-ism is pathetic. the police aren't social workers, psychologists or therapists, they are enforcers of the law. someone with a knife standing 15m away from you has the potential to kill you or someone else in seconds, and that someone is even more dangerous and quite probably harder to take down when hyped up on drugs. you can imagine the outcry these same posters would raise if the cops DIDN'T put bullets into the kid and he ran off and sliced up an innocent bystander instead.
Barry in todays society the answer would be to blame the police. Although, if it were my son I think I would be asking myself how I failed so miserably as a father. Why my son had no respect for authority and was filled with what can only be described as suicidal rage. Why he failed to realise that life is not a video game where you simply reload from the last save and carry on.
A fairly logical repsonse to why all the officers fired at once is they all believed the threat had reached a point of no return at the same time. If they were trained to fire multiple times at the persons torso then they have all acted in accordance with their training.
What would be truly tragic is to be the parent of someone this teenager killed had the police not responded and be asking why he was allowed to terrorise the streets armed with knives and the police did nothing. Or to be the parent of a police officer stabbed and killed while trying to subdue this same teen in a less forceful manner.
cheers
Surly
Good afternoon all.
I've read all the posts before me,
now can we go back and rewrite the posts,
with the view, it was your son the 3 police filled with 5 or 6 bullets
Kind regards,
UB
You make alot of assumptons there, are they based on any sort of fact or knowledge of the kid or his family or police training or do you just write cheap fiction.
MrBurns not sure that I agree with "a lot of assumptions". I "assumed" the police all fired together as they all read the situation in the same manner. Yes I have had police training in WA explained to me by a former WA police officer. The assumption was Vic was the same. Refer earlier post if you like.
The rest of the post was about how I would feel were it my child.
Do I need to know any more about the teenager or his family other than he was armed in public and failed to comply with police instructions to disarm himself?
cheers
Surly
"Although, if it were my son I think I would be asking myself how I failed so miserably as a father.
Why my son had no respect for authority and was filled with what can only be described as suicidal rage.
Why he failed to realise that life is not a video game where you simply reload from the last save and carry on.
A fairly logical repsonse to why all the officers fired at once is they all believed the threat had reached a point of no return at the same time. If they were trained to fire multiple times at the persons torso then they have all acted in accordance with their training.
What would be truly tragic is to be the parent of someone this teenager killed had the police not responded
.
Do I need to know any more about the teenager or his family other than he was armed in public and failed to comply with police instructions to disarm himself?
People are like horses, they react to to each other as much as they react to the situation that caused the initial reaction. That's how we survive.MrBurns not sure that I agree with "a lot of assumptions". I "assumed" the police all fired together as they all read the situation in the same manner. Yes I have had police training in WA explained to me by a former WA police officer. The assumption was Vic was the same. Refer earlier post if you like.
Mrburns, interestingly the only point you failed to quote on and the only one that really matters.
cheers
Surly
One double knife wielding KID (big) vrs Four BURLY police officers armed with the latest telescopic baton. My moneys on the police..... Unless... Oh thats right they are not burly anymore just 5ft 3" wanna be accountants or vets who couldn't be bothered to go to uni for five years.
My thoughts are with the kids family right now and another senseless waste of life
One of the three police officers who shot and killed a teenage boy reportedly tried to shoot his legs as he advanced on them, allegedly wielding two stolen knives.
Tyler lured police to the scene with two hoax calls reporting an emergency near the scene where he died, The Age said.
When Tyler continued to advance, three of the four police involved in the shooting fired at his body until he fell.
Tyler died at the scene.
The report said Tyler was hit twice in the legs and twice in the chest and several other shots missed him.
Boy oh boy ! 2 shots in the leg and he didnt go down - Im now eager to see the toxiology report thats pretty bizarre. OR did police shoot legs and chest simultainously, was there a lack of communication ?
Maybe if they were trained to shoot properly and had modern weapons legs would have been easier to hit.
You know they didnt have to wait for him to advance they could have given him one or 2 in the legs if they felt threatened.
At least he would be alive.
Burns normally i respect your opinions but answer me this what "modern weapon" (im assuming you mean firearm?) are you referring to? people still dont get it and think shooting a firearm is like doom where you point it with a mouse and click to shoot? mate you have to start being realistic.
Ask any professional pistol shooter about your theory and see what they say.
June 08'
Victoria's police will patrol the streets with semi-automatic guns within six months after a backflip by chief commissioner Christine Nixon.
Ms Nixon previously opposed moves to replace the .38 revolvers currently used but changed her mind following a recent police shooting, union pressure and an external panel recommending semi-automatics be introduced.
The Police Association ramped up its campaign for powerful semi-automatics following the shooting of Senior Constable David McHenry, 27, by criminal Samir Ograzden in Melbourne last month.
The decision brings Victoria in line with the rest of the country, but Ms Nixon denied plans to buy 6,500 semi-automatic guns was a "backdown" prompted by Snr Const McHenry's injury.
An independent advisory committee said police should be armed with semi-automatic weapons while $10 million in funding has already been allocated for a firearms upgrade in the State budget.
"For me, I've been able to be persuaded and if the evidence is strong then I'm happy to change my mind, and that's what I've done," Ms Nixon told reporters on Friday.
"For quite some time I've had concerns about the introduction of a new firearm, but after .... dealing with a number of the concerns I had I'm pleased we are able to make this move."
Those concerns included guns accidentally discharging or jamming, but Police Minister Bob Cameron told reporters the technology had improved substantially in the past year.
Semi-automatic Glock pistols have been used in NSW since 1996, when Ms Nixon worked there, and police in all other states and territories use semi-automatics.
Their introduction in NSW was prompted by a police shooting the previous year when officers Robert Spears and Peter Addison were killed by drunken electrician John McGowan, 35, who used a semi-automatic gun.
Police Association secretary Paul Mullett said the union was still considering suing Victoria Police over Snr Const McHenry's shooting for negligence in not using the funding to buy semi-automatic pistols.
Snr Sgt Mullett said police needed to be able to defend themselves against criminals who had access to "all sorts of superior weaponry be they semi-automatic shotguns and machine guns".
"We're programmed to have meetings with Snr Const McHenry and other members involved in that shooting to see if there's a common law right to sue the employer for what we believe was negligence in that they didn't have access to the superior firearm being the semi-automatic pistol," he told reporters.
"It's a victory for the Police Association and our broader members who told us three to four years ago that they required the better weapon."
It's hoped the weapons will be introduced within the next five to six months, once a supplier has been found and officers have been trained.
Ms Nixon ruled out taser or stun guns, which Snr Sgt Mullett said was disappointing.
"There is a touch of irony in the chief commissioner's email to the broader membership where in announcing semi-auto pistols she says she would prefer that non-lethal options be used," he said.
"Guess what: the taser is a non-lethal piece of equipment."
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Christine Nixon use to visit my neighbor (also a cop) and I use to chat to her a bit. She seemed like a very nice person, and at the time I didn't really have any idea of who she was. Then I saw her on TV when she first became Vic chiefWhat a bugger of a job to go for.
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