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Thanks to both of you for your thoughts.
Not particularly interested in Wave counts(as like you both I do my own) , but Fib Time expansions and other time add -ons available for DT5, and seeing if anyone currently using them and integrating these within their analysis. Especially with regard to use with calendar day time axis if that is available in DT5.
Cheers
Snake you are dead right about EW and illiquid stocks. EW is a representation of mass social mood. Therefore where the crowds emotions are best represented is in very liquid markets. I rarely trade stocks using EW alone, in fact I rarely trade stocks. There is way too much white noise in individual illiquid stocks
The best representations of EW therefore are seen in the following:
-Indexes
-Currencies
-Commodities
etc
Sure there are setups in the more liquid stocks, if fact there can be many setups and opportunities, but more often than not you will be hard pressed to find them and you will really have to know what your doing. There can be too much ambiguities and subjections if this is done using EW in isolation and one really needs to use other methods to quantify the price action. If you are trying to force a count on a stock that simply isn’t there then you are asking for trouble IMO, it has to rally stand out and have the right proportions, otherwise move on and find something else that does
Cheers
1: Certainly NOT, one can just look for very basic 12345 Impulsions and abc Corrections and most do. But learning the theory more in depth can increase your analysis skills and you maybe able to see more pportunities/probabilities in which to take a trade. Like anything it really depends what you want from it
2: The best book I have come across and the original is Elliott Wave Principle Key to Market Behaviour by Frost and Prechter. That is a starting point and a great orientation regarding EW analysis. For application(and this really depends on your trading style and objectives) I like a book by Steven W Poser called Applying Elliott Wave Theory Profitably. There are many, many books out there however.
There is something I must mention here, there are multiple schools of Elliott:
The 2 most that are well known are:-
-The Prechter Style which is an extension form the original works of RN Elliott
This is what most Elliotticians follow
-The Neely School. This is a completely different approach developed by Glen Neely. He has written a book called “Mastering Elliott Wave” teaching it. This approach has concepts that all but remove any subjectivists/ambiguities from the Prechter approach. It is truly the most objective form of EW Analysis. However it is very, very difficult to master it, many more rules and guidelines compared to the traditional approach but much more accurate if done correctly. I believe Glenn Neely is doing some free seminars in all the capital cities soon. I don’t know anyone who has mastered this approach in this country. Zoran Gayer(from Adelaide) was the best but he passed away a few years ago.
3. Re: Books on application: There are many out there, look for the EWI library they have some good ones. Another good one is Dynamic Trading by Robert Miner but I find it more tailored around his software but it can also be used in isolation
I have a some good info which briefly explains it what you are after . It’s very good. Send me a PM and I will arrange to send it to you
Wave,
Thanks for the input to the thread.
I often question myself wether EW is of any use on the ASX, simply because of the size of the market. The reason I explored its use was for forex with its huge liquidity.
Using a strategy that requires liquidity narrows the opportunity that may be found in the ASX. Is this worth pursuing if one only trades the smaller lighter markets? This may cause some anguish with some but it is worth serious research I feel.
Personally I can't justify price/calendar cycles or sentiment indicators. Appreciate others can put it to good use, but I can't. How can one measure real sentiment anyway?
I have now incorporated seasonality into my analysis which I have been researching for 2-years. Seasonality is based on market forces that do in fact really exist, such as dividends, AGM's, tax periods etc. The seasonality is collected from the price history of the instrument across numerous timeframes, then overlaid on current activity. If the timeframes match then we have a high confidence of seasonality. If they diverge, we ignore it. Applied alongside EW or other patterns I beleive will add value to the bottom line. I don't know of anyone else doing this.
You can clearly see its validity in the chart below. Green means seasonal strength is due. Take note that it was due on 17 April and sure enough we were also expecting a wave-v to start higher. From 12 May we expected seasonal sideways activity which in this case coincided with the larger degree wave-(iv). Strength was due again on May 22...yesterday we broke higher into the wave-(v). We also know that weakness is due at or around June 10. Chances are that the current wave-(v) will terminate sometime near that date.
Thanks Snake.Kennas,
Here is the EW thread.
instead, I see that Wavepicker is using computer software by Advanced Get
which down plays Wavepicker's true ability of observing Chartpatterns ........
Let's use this thread to posts Chart Ideas if its ok with you -Once again I repeat Market Waves, Advanced Get I use only as a whiteboard and marker, like I do with some other platforms.
My wave counts are NOT generated by Advanced Get, they are created by the best computer around, the one that's between every person's ears. Almost everything I post regarding EW and other TA methods to quantify EW waves is my own work and nobody or anthying elses. If there is anything you would like to exchange ideas on (wavecount) please let me know.
Cheers
I haven't seen any thread in this forum with that kind of interest in such a short period of time , have you ?
Get a grip.
I started the thread and the poll around 7 mths ago.
The last thing this form of analysis needs is condesending observations of people who use it--regardless of level of knowledge.
Marketwaves by all means discuss it but can you stop being the human headline for Elliot.
Its like dealing with an evangilist!
Might be big in the States but leaves most Aussies cold.
Let's use this thread to posts Chart Ideas if its ok with you -
this thread just opened a few hours ago , and 50 people have filled out the poll
just above wanting to learn more about Elliott Waves Formations
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I haven't seen any thread in this forum with that kind of interest in such a short period of time , have you ?
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