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Next time you are in hospital tell the doctors and nursing staff that or perhaps social workers dealing with meth heads etc.

Explain it to all the volunteers that prop up our communities or perhaps you could forgo all the benefits previous left leaning governments have heaped on you that I am sure you refused on principle.

I could go on and on about left leaning people / social conscience actually doing selfless good within our communities who have no time to sit around making snide remarks.

As for Allan (he who touched everyone) Joyce never heard that one.

Meanwhile the foreign owned News Corp continues to pump out toxic divisive propaganda quoted in these forums endlessly and not a word.
Dude, even the right wing acknowledges the need for social programs to varying extents. We just understand that somebody has to actually pay for them via the productive sector of the economy.
 
Dude, even the right wing acknowledges the need for social programs to varying extents. We just understand that somebody has to actually pay for them via the productive sector of the economy.
I will repeat once again : I can not believe the fixation the left has on News ltd.
By still playing this right/ left game of our forefathers, they do not realise they get anxl f***ed in a loop by the "labelled leftist" powers who are hand in hand with the leftist former mortal enemies: big pharma, social media, war lobbies and multinationals.
News limited is $ clickbait ****, their ABC is brainwashed ego focused feeling superior, I follow the ABC..or the guardian ( but I get my jab, still believe CO2 cause global warming in 2024, and have the scientific knowledge of a tadpole..


This is just a distraction to keep the populace happy, with an election from time to time to blow any fuse.
But same same, the only real program is the WEF with various spices be it Labor lemon myrtle, or LNP bbq flavour.
As for the big heart of socialism:
In Australia, I found the real altruism and good hearts are found in small communities, among farmers and community halls/group and believe me, you will try hard to find an ALP voter there.
Less talk and look at me, more action
 
Going back to Covid and the 10,000 deaths from the jab
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All this directly from the abs figures...
So conservatively, 10,000+ extra death from the jab..and no we are not talking of undetected cancers due to lockdowns etc..
These other deaths imho should be accounted for and in a country where there are royal commissions on ever coughing cat, maybe just maybe, a royal commission and some jail terms are more than required , and is personally to he only way I could get some trust back in our country .
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The abs figures more readable :
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Japanese research shows the same thing.

Cancers that are discovered at stage 4 are also way up as well which is very unusual, they are usually found at stage one or two.

We have one person in our circle who "felt a bit off", she went to the Docs and she has cancer in 5 places.

She was a person who was rarely sick But had to vaxed for work.
 
Japanese research shows the same thing.

Cancers that are discovered at stage 4 are also way up as well which is very unusual, they are usually found at stage one or two.

We have one person in our circle who "felt a bit off", she went to the Docs and she has cancer in 5 places.

She was a person who was rarely sick But had to vaxed for work.
All easily explicable with the jab screwing up the immune system: jump in cancers spreading like fire, immuno disease, own body self destroying..and not only heart etc etc.
In term of numbers, 150,000 or so in Japan, 10 to 15,000 here, percentages are fairly consistent a and the beauty of these mRNA screw ups is that it keeps giving, so because it happened 2y ago does not mean it is over.
Every year, more extra deaths..obviously, after a couple of years, it will not be counted as statically excess death anymore, the new normal.
Pfizer on his own has killed more per year than the ukraine war....
But we are all conspiratists..
The flat earthers still get their 5th? jabs when still alive and limit C02 emissions as it causes global warming..😂...😭
 
Another conspiracy theory bites the dust.


remember it was only some 7 years ago that they wanted equality with marriage
the origional move ment sililar to the greenpeace movement has been over taken by extreme marxists and the origional homosexual movement is now being labled as far right for speaking out and been targeted by Zionist trash of the ADL also


gays Against Groomers (GAG)[5] is an American far-right[1][6][3] and anti-LGBT[5][1][7][8] organization known for campaigning against gender-affirming care for minors,[1] protesting school curriculum content with LGBT themes,[9] and criticizing Drag Queen Story Hour events.[4]


 
remember it was only some 7 years ago that they wanted equality with marriage
the origional move ment sililar to the greenpeace movement has been over taken by extreme marxists and the origional homosexual movement is now being labled as far right for speaking out and been targeted by Zionist trash of the ADL also


gays Against Groomers (GAG)[5] is an American far-right[1][6][3] and anti-LGBT[5][1][7][8] organization known for campaigning against gender-affirming care for minors,[1] protesting school curriculum content with LGBT themes,[9] and criticizing Drag Queen Story Hour events.[4]


LoL it's always the joooz :laugh:
 
One of the articles states the ADL.
Maybe find out what they are and stand for?
As I have stated many times here, there are no "The Jews". Their ideology is as diverse as... "The Christians", "The Left", "The right" and any number of other ideological groups.

Univocality is bulls51t.
 
As I have stated many times here, there are no "The Jews". Their ideology is as diverse as... "The Christians", "The Left", "The right" and any number of other ideological groups.

Univocality is bulls51t.
no dipshit. just listen to the rereason as to why, from the so called suppressed
my grand mother was jewish but lived in germany in the 30/40s and was suck in east germeny to the 80s a place i was born also. history and reality from the academic books you read differ



https://avawolfe.substack.com/p/top-jewish-scholar-admits-hitler
 
no dipshit. just listen to the rereason as to why, from the so called suppressed
my grand mother was jewish but lived in germany in the 30/40s and was suck in east germeny to the 80s a place i was born also. history and reality from the academic books you read differ



https://avawolfe.substack.com/p/top-jewish-scholar-admits-hitler

Always the ad hominem. So classy.

Anyway, I wouldn't class Mein Kampf as a reliable citation and certainly not on its own. Der Führer wasn't known as a stable person really was he?

This Wikipedia article does a fair analysis of so-called Jewish Bolshevism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Bolshevism

Yeah it's Wikipedia, but if you ever do get to the bottom, there is a list of citations for fact checking.

It highlights my point about the myth of Jewish univocality and indeed the myth that communism is a Jewish movement.
 
Always the ad hominem. So classy.

Anyway, I wouldn't class Mein Kampf as a reliable citation and certainly not on its own. Der Führer wasn't known as a stable person really was he?

This Wikipedia article does a fair analysis of so-called Jewish Bolshevism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Bolshevism

Yeah it's Wikipedia, but if you ever do get to the bottom, there is a list of citations for fact checking.

It highlights my point about the myth of Jewish univocality and indeed the myth that communism is a Jewish movmovement
Wikipedia sucks as it brushes over a lot of the history. The only reason Stalin went antisemitic is that his plans of having an alliance in the middle East via Israel fell through when Israel backed the west instead.

Do you subscribe to the 6 million killed in the holocaust figures?

This period in history is littered with lies. Which group made it illegal to talk about?
I don't even care that much about it, but it's annoying the narrative everyone got sold.
 
Seriously Mo, you're a Holocaust denier now?

Anyway, I did give my reservations about Wikipedia hence why I referred to the citations at the bottom for further reading and research.

Look, my consistent point is that there is no conspiracy involving *all* Jews. There are some truly diabolical characters who also happen to be Jewish, no doubt about that. Soros and some of the global banking families immediately spring to mind. There are others I absolutely despise, Chomsky, Mate, Finkelstein etc. Historically there are other likes of Trotsky. I viscerally farkin hate them.

Are they any more numerous than the non Jews? Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, Putin, Pol Pot, Mao, various other African and European despots... Need I name them all?

Do I really need it to go into the history of the Catholic Church, the inquisition plus a host of other things etc?

How about Mohammed and the litany of murderous tyrants in that particular religion which persist to this very day?

How much of that history is being glossed over?

Seriously???
 
Seriously Mo, you're a Holocaust denier now?
Yes and No. I have a serious problem with the figures put forward. 6 million was a bs figure. I do believe that Jews were being targeted by the nazis. A lots been shown in multiple court cases to be bs. They did suffer horrendously though. Probably closer to 300-500k which is still a lot.

The lies around WW2 were very thick and not just from that demographic. The more you look at it the more you realise we got a very narrow view of what went into the war and a lot of the drivers of it. Every aspect of it actually.


As for the Bolsheviks and Jewish influence:
Robert Wilton wrote a book back in 1921 that covers the murder of the tsar but the unedited version it covers the Jewish influence in the Bolshevik revolution. The French copy "Les Derniers Jours des Romanofs" covered the racial background, but the English copy and possibly french version from 1920 were scrubbed of that part. It's now heavily edited and he was hounded. Guess which group featured prominently in the numbers. I believe he received complete records from the Sokolov Archive.

Jacob Schiff of Kuhn, Loeb, Olaf Ashberg, financed the Bolsheviks.

You had people like Rosa Luxemburg getting dragged into revolution in Germany.

History in Hungary, Poland, with the commies and government.

It all ties together and explains why the Germans went the way they did. I can't cover it all here. Nor would I want to. It has nothing to do with disliking Jews. It's trying to get to the truth of History.

I'm not defending other posters views on conspiracies either. In fact I don't want to talk about the matter anymore.
You are correct in saying that it can be hurtful to innocent members of this community and that's not my iintention.Its a touchy subject that will get me mossaded. Full power to our overlords and all that.

There was a lot of anti-Semitism going round back then that also clouded the truth. The things above are possibly stained by that. Dyor
 
Yes and No. I have a serious problem with the figures put forward. 6 million was a bs figure. I do believe that Jews were being targeted by the nazis. A lots been shown in multiple court cases to be bs. They did suffer horrendously though. Probably closer to 300-500k which is still a lot.

Well that is interesting.....:cautious:
If you have made up your mind that 6 Million Jews killed by the Nazis in WW2 was BS and you reckon 300-500 k is about right then I suppose no evidence I put forward is going to shake your convictions.

However for the sake of any other posters who may be inclined to question what happened in WW2 I will post this extract from Wikipedia backed up by original documentation

The extract highlights 2 pieces of evidence. (there is much more)

1) Before WW2 there were 9.7million Jews in Europe. After the war the Jewish population was 3.6 million. So where had they disappeared ?
2) The Germans, being extremely well organized little bureaucrats, had carefully detailed the numbers of Jews they had collected and killed. In round figures - 5 million. And these did not cover all the actions

Six million​

Further information: The Holocaust § Death toll
The vast majority of scholars, institutions, and one Nazi official[56] estimate between five and six million Jews perished during the Holocaust.[57] With approximately 4.5 million Jewish victims' names collected by Yad Vashem,[58] numerous documents and archives discovered after the war gave meticulous accounts of the exterminations that took place at the death camps (such as Auschwitz and Treblinka).[59]

Jewish population​

The 1932 American Jewish Yearbook estimates the total number of Jews in the world at 15,192,218, of whom 9,418,248 resided in Europe. However, the 1947 yearbook states: "Estimates of the world Jewish population have been assembled by the American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee (except for the United States and Canada) and are probably the most authentic available at the present time. The figures reveal that the total Jewish population of the world has decreased by one-third from about 16,600,000 in 1939 to about 11,000,000 in 1946 as the result of the annihilation by the Nazis of more than five and a half million European Jews. In Europe only an estimated 3,642,000 remain of the total Jewish pre-war population of approximately 9,740,000." These numbers are also consistent with the findings of the Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry, Appendix III, in 1946.

Nazi documentation​

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The Höfle Telegram

The Nazis used figures of between 9 and 11 million for the Jewish population of Europe, as evidenced in the notes of the Wannsee Conference. In fact, the Nazis methodically recorded the ongoing reduction of the Jewish population, as in the Korherr Report, which gave the status of the Final Solution through December 1942. The Höfle Telegram was sent by Hermann Höfle on 11 January 1943 to Adolf Eichmann in Berlin and detailed the number of Jews murdered in the concentration camps.[60] In the year 1942 alone, the telegram lists 1,274,166 Jews were exterminated[60] in the four camps of Aktion Reinhard.

The Korherr Report, compiled by an SS statistician, gave a conservative total of 2,454,000 Jews deported to extermination camps or murdered by the Einsatzgruppen.
The complete status reports of the Einsatzgruppen death squads were found in the archives of the Gestapo when it was searched by the U.S. Army, and the accuracy attested to by the former Einsatzgruppen members who testified during war crime trials and at other times. These reports alone list an additional 1,500,000 or so murders during mass shootings, the vast majority of these victims were Jews. Further, surviving Nazi documentation spells out their plans to murder the Jews of Europe (see the Wannsee Conference), recorded the trains arriving at various death camps, and included photographs and films of many atrocities.

 
Well that is interesting.....:cautious:
If you have made up your mind that 6 Million Jews killed by the Nazis in WW2 was BS and you reckon 300-500 k is about right then I suppose no evidence I put forward is going to shake your convictions.

However for the sake of any other posters who may be inclined to question what happened in WW2 I will post this extract from Wikipedia backed up by original documentation

The extract highlights 2 pieces of evidence. (there is much more)

1) Before WW2 there were 9.7million Jews in Europe. After the war the Jewish population was 3.6 million. So where had they disappeared ?
2) The Germans, being extremely well organized little bureaucrats, had carefully detailed the numbers of Jews they had collected and killed. In round figures - 5 million. And these did not cover all the actions

Six million​

Further information: The Holocaust § Death toll
The vast majority of scholars, institutions, and one Nazi official[56] estimate between five and six million Jews perished during the Holocaust.[57] With approximately 4.5 million Jewish victims' names collected by Yad Vashem,[58] numerous documents and archives discovered after the war gave meticulous accounts of the exterminations that took place at the death camps (such as Auschwitz and Treblinka).[59]

Jewish population​

The 1932 American Jewish Yearbook estimates the total number of Jews in the world at 15,192,218, of whom 9,418,248 resided in Europe. However, the 1947 yearbook states: "Estimates of the world Jewish population have been assembled by the American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee (except for the United States and Canada) and are probably the most authentic available at the present time. The figures reveal that the total Jewish population of the world has decreased by one-third from about 16,600,000 in 1939 to about 11,000,000 in 1946 as the result of the annihilation by the Nazis of more than five and a half million European Jews. In Europe only an estimated 3,642,000 remain of the total Jewish pre-war population of approximately 9,740,000." These numbers are also consistent with the findings of the Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry, Appendix III, in 1946.

Nazi documentation​

View attachment 180473The Höfle Telegram

The Nazis used figures of between 9 and 11 million for the Jewish population of Europe, as evidenced in the notes of the Wannsee Conference. In fact, the Nazis methodically recorded the ongoing reduction of the Jewish population, as in the Korherr Report, which gave the status of the Final Solution through December 1942. The Höfle Telegram was sent by Hermann Höfle on 11 January 1943 to Adolf Eichmann in Berlin and detailed the number of Jews murdered in the concentration camps.[60] In the year 1942 alone, the telegram lists 1,274,166 Jews were exterminated[60] in the four camps of Aktion Reinhard.

The Korherr Report, compiled by an SS statistician, gave a conservative total of 2,454,000 Jews deported to extermination camps or murdered by the Einsatzgruppen.
The complete status reports of the Einsatzgruppen death squads were found in the archives of the Gestapo when it was searched by the U.S. Army, and the accuracy attested to by the former Einsatzgruppen members who testified during war crime trials and at other times. These reports alone list an additional 1,500,000 or so murders during mass shootings, the vast majority of these victims were Jews. Further, surviving Nazi documentation spells out their plans to murder the Jews of Europe (see the Wannsee Conference), recorded the trains arriving at various death camps, and included photographs and films of many atrocities.

That figure should have been 300k-2.5mill.
I'm also sketch on the amount that died in Russian famines and the Chinese under Mao.
 
That figure should have been 300k-2.5mill.
I'm also sketch on the amount that died in Russian famines and the Chinese under Mao.
Yeah Nah..

If you somehow can believe only 300,000 Jews were killed by the Nazis in WW2 than really what is the point ? Just the fact that there were around 6 million less Jews alive in Europe after the war than before it says much ( And that may not fully account for the murders across Russia )

The argument about the "exact" number of people killed/died/worked to death /disappeared in WW2 will always be moot. The round figure of 6 Million Jews falls into that category. Was it 6.1 m? 5.58 M ? 7,657,943 ?

What, in my view, isn't moot is the overwhelming process of State sanctioned massacres across all theaters of the war and in all countries.
I quoted the Wiki articles because of their indepth dive into all of these areas.

I struggle to see the point of attempting to minimise the extent and horror of what happened. :(
 
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