The Australian Greens party

[wayneL]

Here is my prediction Mr Plod, The Greens will go the way way of the Australian Democrats.... and the self destruction has already commenced.

 

[Darc Knight]

Here is my prediction Mr Plod, The Greens will go the way way of the Australian Democrats.... and the self destruction has already commenced.

Not sure about that Wayne. Quite a lot of difference between the Greens and the old Aus Dems.
Unless another environment group forms and takes over there will always be a "market" for a green group. Aus Dems coulda been replaced by anyone.

 

[explod]

The Greens have been around for thirty years and I've been a member for 20 years. The Democrats were and gone in a flash. 75% of our new members are women between 20 and 40 years and that influence on their children will continue to stimulate it's growth.

 

[explod]

Anyway, a message from a friend today,

"
I’ve just come from the House of Representatives, where we passed a bill to bring sick refugees to Australia for medical treatment. Share this momentous news far and wide now.

After a day of intense negotiations, we convinced Labor to back down from their position that could have made it harder to get sick refugees medical attention. This is following months of pushing to get refugees the medical treatment they deserve. That they desperately need.

James, I want you to know that there was a point there where Labor’s proposed amendments could in fact have made it harder for sick refugees to get the help they need.

But the Greens joining with crossbench independents and the community were resolute to ensure that human rights and people came before politics.

And we succeeded. Share this extraordinary result far and wide.

Sometimes, keeping the faith in politics is hard. But this result shows what happens when you have Greens in Parliament. Today, the Greens constructively held Labor to account and produced an incredible outcome.

Your vote is powerful. Today, your vote has ensured refugees can get the help they need.

Today, we’ve shown that, working together with the community, strong independent voices in the Parliament can get outcomes.

With excitement and relief,

Adam."

 

[qldfrog]

Would it not be great if the Greens were interested in the environment and the well being of this planet?
I could even have carried on voting for them..But as they say in Germany : Greens are watermelon
green in the outside, red in the inside..There is a place for communists /far left in society; people can be young, idealistic and blissfully ignorant but never more than 10pc unless they are played by a bigger brother..happens everywhere..good luck

 

[jbocker]

Anyway, a message from a friend today,

"
I’ve just come from the House of Representatives, where we passed a bill to bring sick refugees to Australia for medical treatment. Share this momentous news far and wide now.





What

After a day of intense negotiations, we convinced Labor to back down from their position that could have made it harder to get sick refugees medical attention. This is following months of pushing to get refugees the medical treatment they deserve. That they desperately need.

James, I want you to know that there was a point there where Labor’s proposed amendments could in fact have made it harder for sick refugees to get the help they need.

But the Greens joining with crossbench independents and the community were resolute to ensure that human rights and people came before politics.

And we succeeded. Share this extraordinary result far and wide.

Sometimes, keeping the faith in politics is hard. But this result shows what happens when you have Greens in Parliament. Today, the Greens constructively held Labor to account and produced an incredible outcome.

Your vote is powerful. Today, your vote has ensured refugees can get the help they need.

Today, we’ve shown that, working together with the community, strong independent voices in the Parliament can get outcomes.

With excitement and relief,

Adam."

Gday Explod. Was not familiar with this. Sounds like a good win for humanitarian outcomes. What happens when the refugee gets better? What were Labor holding out on?

 

[sptrawler]

What were Labor holding out on?

They were obviously waiting for the Greens to give them guidance, as happened last time round.

 

[explod]

Would it not be great if the Greens were interested in the environment and the well being of this planet?
I could even have carried on voting for them..But as they say in Germany : Greens are watermelon
green in the outside, red in the inside..There is a place for communists /far left in society; people can be young, idealistic and blissfully ignorant but never more than 10pc unless they are played by a bigger brother..happens everywhere..good luck

You certainly do not know much about the Greens. Our main internal discussion is about protecting the environment and ways to try and save our planet. Not reported and avoided by the media we have blockades and demonstrations everyday to stop logging in our natural crown land forests and animal habitats. Privately, I am a vegan, do not buy products which have plastic wrappers etc, tear all cardboard and paper up and break down into a worm farm which then feeds my vegetable garden. Try not to use my car. All of my peers in my age group do the same and we most certainly walk the talk. In the few cases where this is not the case the big business controlled press (and ABC now directed but the Libs) jump on and blow it out of proportion to make it seem otherwise.

However the community are now becoming very concerned at current global warming trends and fast releasing because you cannot hide away half a million cattle that were just drowned in northern Australia, the huge loss of homes in Townsville, the fire damage in Tassie, wild sudden downpours in Sydney and Melbourne in the last few weeks. And that's just in Australia

 

[Darc Knight]

Plod beat me to it.

Thinking the whole tree hugging, sharing caring nature is just a front for installing Communism seems a bit distorted.

 

[wayneL]

Plod beat me to it.

Thinking the whole tree hugging, sharing caring nature is just a front for installing Communism seems a bit distorted.

Read their economic policy then.

As for saving the planet, every person you bring from the third world, to developed countries, radically increases their environmental footprint, including their carbon dioxide footprint.

Green policies and social justice policies in dire conflict with each other, with SJ policies winning out, hands down.

Want me to go on, Bruce?

 

[qldfrog]

If you were caring for the planet,you would build a wall around australia..i do compost, gardening beekeeping am self sufficient water, power,and food wise but sorry no BS about vegan, or thinking than we can solve or even are trying to solve GW.
I travel the world and put things in perspective.you should try ..is quite formative
every economic emigrant accepted in the west is an incentive to ever more overpopulation and a lessening of human standards to the lowest denominator..i do not see any future in that model for the planet.

 

[Darc Knight]

Read their economic policy then.

As for saving the planet, every person you bring from the third world, to developed countries, radically increases their environmental footprint, including their carbon dioxide footprint.

Green policies and social justice policies in dire conflict with each other, with SJ policies winning out, hands down.

Want me to go on, Bruce?

I understand what you're getting at, the whole "fair and equitable distribution of global wealth', but it's not Communism. It's just like your lovely overly kindhearted Grandma running things.

https://greens.org.au/policies/global-economics

 

[explod]

If you were caring for the planet,you would build a wall around australia..i do compost, gardening beekeeping am self sufficient water, power,and food wise but sorry no BS about vegan, or thinking than we can solve or even are trying to solve GW.
I travel the world and put things in perspective.you should try ..is quite formative
every economic emigrant accepted in the west is an incentive to ever more overpopulation and a lessening of human standards to the lowest denominator..i do not see any future in that model for the planet.

Walls will not stop the overflow of people soon anywhere. And the footprint here, there or anywhere is still a footprint. No one asked to be born but once here deserve the same as everyone else.

We need to radically do something about population increasing. Birth control across the planet, get rid of Churches and the God crap. This is not a policy but it should be. We do have a policy of siding with different religions with the idea that we can influence the free education of the offspring away from religion. Real democracy can only come from true open education for all and equally.

 

[qldfrog]

Walls will not stop the overflow of people soon anywhere. And the footprint here, there or anywhere is still a footprint. No one asked to be born but once here deserve the same as everyone else.

We need to radically do something about population increasing. Birth control across the planet, get rid of Churches and the God crap. This is not a policy but it should be. We do have a policy of siding with different religions with the idea that we can influence the free education of the offspring away from religion. Real democracy can only come from true open education for all and equally.

See how weak we have become, you can not even envision that a wall could stop a flood of people..of course it can, it can between haiti and the dominican republic or even better between china and north korea.army have been build first to protect a country from invasion.
Not to bring invaders safely to port
But in the west we are not even prepared to loose an invader life to protect our own nations, so think about the chances to protect earth.
Every migrants means more kids and future migrants supported and birn in the original country..that is the way for Africa at least with Europe, not even considering the extra population in the west...
We are faning the demographic fire and the death if the planet with every new migrant accepted..be it in the west, or Indonesians moving into west papoua..same principle

 

[explod]

See how weak we have become, you can not even envision that a wall could stop a flood of people..of course it can, it can between haiti and the dominican republic or even better between china and north korea.army have been build first to protect a country from invasion.
Not to bring invaders safely to port
But in the west we are not even prepared to loose an invader life to protect our own nations, so think about the chances to protect earth.
Every migrants means more kids and future migrants supported and birn in the original country..that is the way for Africa at least with Europe, not even considering the extra population in the west...
We are faning the demographic fire and the death if the planet with every new migrant accepted..be it in the west, or Indonesians moving into west papoua..same principle

Rubbish, with the drone like flying machines being developed now they will be dropping out of the sky. Population growth has to be stopped on a world wide scale/scheme or we are stuffed.

The submarines we just signed for, what a bloody waste. Did someone say 2050 before they deliver, absolutely obsolete means of anything by then. The brains in Parliament must be chewed up by some illuminati insect as they sign up and walk in.

 

[qldfrog]

Fully agree about submarines.obsolete technilogy before being build
Army should be nuclear tactical as a last defence meaning 5 or 6 enough to ensure China army or other does not walk in and "refugee" style invasion protection aka machine guns and surveillance.can be very cheap with current technology and a sea around us

 

[Tink]

Of course the Greens want Churches closed down and no mention of God.

Just ask Julian Porteous.

The Greens are communists, imv.

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Jordan Peterson

I will never use words I hate, like the trendy and artificially constructed words "zhe" and "zher." These words are at the vanguard of a post-modern, radical leftist ideology that I detest, and which is, in my professional opinion, frighteningly similar to the Marxist doctrines that killed at least 100 million people in the 20th century.

I have been studying authoritarianism on the right and the left for 35 years. I wrote a book, Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief, on the topic, which explores how ideologies hijack language and belief. As a result of my studies, I have come to believe that Marxism is a murderous ideology. I believe its practitioners in modern universities should be ashamed of themselves for continuing to promote such vicious, untenable and anti-human ideas, and for indoctrinating their students with these beliefs. I am therefore not going to mouth Marxist words. That would make me a puppet of the radical left, and that is not going to happen. Period

 

[basilio]

First dog on the Moon on The Greens


If the Greens don’t do something radical they will be on 10% primary vote UNTIL THE END OF EARTH

First Dog on the Moon
How hard could it be to provide a socialist, socially just, environmentally coherent lefty alternative?
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-be-on-10-primary-vote-until-the-end-of-earth

 

[wayneL]

First dog on the Moon on The Greens


If the Greens don’t do something radical they will be on 10% primary vote UNTIL THE END OF EARTH

First Dog on the Moon
How hard could it be to provide a socialist, socially just, environmentally coherent lefty alternative?
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-be-on-10-primary-vote-until-the-end-of-earth

Something radical?

Even more radical you mean?

Yes, let's hope so, they will make themselves even more irrelevant to the mainstream and commit political suicide.

Bring it on!

 

[explod]

From Sarah today:

"
By 2050, there could be more plastic in the ocean than fish. It’s a harrowing statistic that we can’t let play out. That’s why The Greens have a plan to phase out single-use plastics and clean up our oceans.

Yesterday I spent the day at Brighton Beach for Clean-Up Australia Day. There were so many people pitching in to scour the beach for rubbish and make sure it doesn’t cause harm to our marine life. The same day, the results of the State Government plastics survey came out showing a whopping 97% of South Australians want the Government to do more to tackle plastic pollution.

The Greens’ Bill will help clean up Australia every day. Share the news!

The Product Stewardship Amendment (Packaging and Certain Plastics) Bill 2019 responds to the twin problems of the recycling crisis and marine plastic pollution that’s clogging our environment and putting our native species and marine life at risk.

Our Bill will establish a mandatory product stewardship scheme that:

• introduces a ban on particular single-use plastics by 2025;
• introduces a ban on microbeads and lightweight plastic bags by 2021;
• introduces a national container deposit scheme at 20 cents per container by 2021; and
• adopts the recycling targets from the Australian Packaging Covenant Organisation’s 2025 National Packaging Targets.

You can read all the details by clicking here and take action now by sharing the news.

We need the Federal Government to act urgently on the recycling crisis and marine plastic pollution if Australia if we are to do our bit to stop the ocean from turning into a plastic soup.

People in our communities are already playing their part, but it is frustrating that politicians aren’t doing their share of the heavy lifting.

With strong Greens representation in the Senate, we can introduce these new laws into the next Parliament, to clean up our oceans and keep our beaches beautiful.
You can help us by spreading the news and so long as we are in the Parliament, we’ll put pressure on the Government to clean-up Australia every day. Help us spread the news, and The Greens will put pressure on the Government to clean-up Australia every day.



Best regards,

Sarah"

She never stops working on real issues every day.