The Australian Greens party

[wayneL]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

What's so bad about a world government?

For a preview - see the EU.

 

[Ruby]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

Julia Gillard's in office, but who's in power ?

To me, that's half right. Labor is jumping around with the information release date while Bob Brown is looking in control of the whole process. This to me is very damaging for Labor and the Greens know it.

Labor is dancing like a cat on a hot tin roof and it's the Greens providing the solar power. I suspect Bob Brown knows exactly what he's doing and the Labor leadership are yet to wake up to it.

Dr S, I agree with you. Brown is the de facto PM, with a gun in Gillard's back. That is why he looks so smug all the time. I think he is starting to suffer from delusions of grandeur. He wants a world government, led by Australia (if I heard correctly), and I presume that means him. He wants to shut down coal mines, but we can't have nuclear power.................. he's in a fantasy land

 

[Bigukraine]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

I think a JFK moment needs to happen to our political system to pull these clowns into line and show them they can't run around and do as they please and assassinate Australia's industry........

You may think it radical but look at the road these koala's are taking us......cull one and the rest might pull their heads in......

I can't do it ,i have a thing for dumb animals::

 

[jancha]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

I think a JFK moment needs to happen to our political system to pull these clowns into line and show them they can't run around and do as they please and assassinate Australia's industry........

You may think it radical but look at the road these koala's are taking us......cull one and the rest might pull their heads in......

I can't do it ,i have a thing for dumb animals::

If you cant do it because you have a thing for dumb animals you'd have to be supporting the ban on cattle export!!!!!!!
The Government's a joke. Stuff up after stuff up.

 

[noco]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

I say to all those who voted for these mongrel GREENS, you will rue the day.

The majority who did vote for the GREENS had no idea what they stood for and there ultimate aim for Australia.

Don't forget the UNITED NATIONS are pro GREEN with a hidden agenda. They have proven absolutely useless over the years.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...l-cost-us-dearly/story-e6frg6zo-1226084437366

 

[Julia]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

With the Greens about to acquire balance of power in the Senate, why are journalists not applying the blowtorch to Greens' policies, with particular emphasis to economic issues?

I can recall just one interview in the whole year so far on 7.30 where Chris Urhlman took a reasonably stringent approach in an interview with Mr Brown. Mr Brown did not like it at all and was having trouble controlling his discomfort.

Before their delusions of power and grandeur become too overblown, some public scrutiny by the media should be putting them on the spot and demanding answers.
Just one vital question would do for a start: i.e. they want to close down the coal fired power stations and "replace them with renewables". OK, fine. Let them provide a cost benefit analysis of so doing and specific detail of what renewables, where, and to what effect.
Should be a piece of cake.

 

[trainspotter]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

I am all for "renewable energy" to solve our problems. Unfortunately we do not have the technology or the efficiency to cut it at the moment. Instead of propping up a crumbling tax regime by penalising the primary producer why don't they invest in the technology to resolve the issue at hand?

Oh wait ....... we tried with the solar scheme ...... FAIL +++++

 

[drsmith]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

Dr S, I agree with you. Brown is the de facto PM, with a gun in Gillard's back. That is why he looks so smug all the time. I think he is starting to suffer from delusions of grandeur. He wants a world government, led by Australia (if I heard correctly), and I presume that means him. He wants to shut down coal mines, but we can't have nuclear power.................. he's in a fantasy land

There will be no escape for Labor under the government he leads.

 

[Bigukraine]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

If you cant do it because you have a thing for dumb animals you'd have to be supporting the ban on cattle export!!!!!!!
The Government's a joke. Stuff up after stuff up.

just because i can't do it doesn't mean i don't like eating them

 

[moXJO]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

So I noticed Bob Brown is now PM.....

Saw a hardcore labor mate at the bank and mentioned the above. He then began jumping up and down in line telling me how much he hated the Greens and how labor is way off track. Was comical too watch and I was lol in line. The lady in front was looking at him with a kind of stunned look, and the bank manager (who is also a friend) yelled out to him that labor voters have to line up outside.

Shame elections are so far off

 

[sails]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

Looks like labor are not going to help Bob Brown get to the lodge:

From the Age by Farrah Tomazin: Labor to rethink deals with Greens

LABOR will rethink doing preference deals with the Greens in Victoria, after a review of the Brumby government's election defeat questioned their value.

 

[Wysiwyg]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

I just had a vision of Julia sitting in the palm of Bob's hands. You know what I mean.

 

[tinhat]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

Love them or loath them, the fact is the Greens are currently the only political party in Australia with a clear philosophy and a leadership possessing conviction.

 

[Calliope]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

Love them or loath them, the fact is the Greens are currently the only political party in Australia with a clear philosophy and a leadership possessing conviction.

Quite so. The problem is that their philosophy and conviction are not in Australia's interest.

 

[sails]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

Love them or loath them, the fact is the Greens are currently the only political party in Australia with a clear philosophy and a leadership possessing conviction.

To destroy our major industries so there are no jobs left? To have has go back to the dark ages and have us without reliable power? Yeah, the policies are very clear..

And you might need your tin hat (figuratively speaking) because Aussies are not going to put up with this rubbish. There is rising anger. People are talking freely about politics, even strangers. I don't think I have ever witnessed politics to quickly become the topic of conversation - and apart from a few die-hards on forums - the consensus is that Gillard with her greens and indies have to go ASAP for the sake of the country.

 

[noco]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

The Greens have out smarted those Labor goons and now they are starting to realise their mistake.
Do some research on Lee Rhiannon. She is a communist through and through.

 

[noco]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

OMG, where are we heading to with these radical Greens. The power has gone to their brainless heads already.

Be AFRAID, BE VERY AFRAID with this radical group of loonies.


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/opinion/talk-of-power-too-taxing/story-e6frerex-1226086693179

 

[Smurf1976]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

And you might need your tin hat (figuratively speaking) because Aussies are not going to put up with this rubbish. There is rising anger. People are talking freely about politics, even strangers. I don't think I have ever witnessed politics to quickly become the topic of conversation - and apart from a few die-hards on forums - the consensus is that Gillard with her greens and indies have to go ASAP for the sake of the country.

It is an unusual time indeed when politics is mainstream conversation just about everywhere as it is right now. And the biggest issue by far is, of course, the carbon tax.

Based on my own observations, I would agree that people are starting to become outright angry toward this government and that is something I don't recall ever seing before on such a scale in this country. It's not at all hard to find blue collar workers completely disillusioned with Labor selling them out.

As a labourer (long term Labor voter and a union member) said to me today, the next election can't come quickly enough and they will be voting Liberal for the first time ever. As they put it, Liberal may well look after the rich but Labor and the Greens are destroying nationally important industries and that's going to hurt an awful lot of ordinary workers. As another person put it, they are going to completely wreck this country financially and we will not see a recovery in our lifetime.

The only other time I'm aware of this sort of widespread community feeling and outright hatred toward individuals was during the dams debate in Tasmania 30 years ago. Worth mentioning since that was essentially the same issue as the carbon tax (ie power generation) and it's what first put Bob Brown into parliament. The only difference now is that we're talking about the whole country rather than just screwing one state.

 

[Julia]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

The Greens only have the balance of power in the Senate when the government and the opposition do not vote together.

So if the Greens were to fulfil the potential for damage which they're showing already, the government would have to oppose their proposed legislation and hope the Coalition will do likewise, in the national interest.

However, this raises the question of what is going to be the main driver of opposition behaviour from now on. Will it truly be in the national interest, or rather an attitude toward the government of "you got yourself into this diabolical situation and we will not help you get out of it" even if this means the best interests of Australia and its people are badly served as a result?

i.e. wouldn't it be fairly natural for the Coalition to want to see the government's stakes fall even further as community anger mounts, thus ensuring the electorate views the Coalition as more definitely the saviour?

They're all politicians first, and guardians of the best interests of Australians second, imo.

Interested in how others see this.

 

[bandicoot76]

Re: The Greens - The New Radical Socialists

The Greens only have the balance of power in the Senate when the government and the opposition do not vote together.

So if the Greens were to fulfil the potential for damage which they're showing already, the government would have to oppose their proposed legislation and hope the Coalition will do likewise, in the national interest.

However, this raises the question of what is going to be the main driver of opposition behaviour from now on. Will it truly be in the national interest, or rather an attitude toward the government of "you got yourself into this diabolical situation and we will not help you get out of it" even if this means the best interests of Australia and its people are badly served as a result?

i.e. wouldn't it be fairly natural for the Coalition to want to see the government's stakes fall even further as community anger mounts, thus ensuring the electorate views the Coalition as more definitely the saviour?

They're all politicians first, and guardians of the best interests of Australians second, imo.

Interested in how others see this.

+1! spot on post julia! the majority of pollies from both parties are just pigs with their snout in the trough @ our expense!