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Simpkin moved a spill motion.
to be discussed on Tuesday in the Party Room.
that didn't take long
I see Abbott is hiding behind Bishop
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I see Abbott is hiding behind Bishop
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And when a politician says "I have a plan" without providing any details what the plan is and why, I do the same; concerned I'd be tempted to plant a swift kick to his budgies
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So there is going to be spill next Tuesday and at this stage it seems that the whole Cabinet will support Tony Abbott....
Just crackers...
Just crackers...
Julie Bishop's office leaks like a sieve:
In a private conversation before the dinner, Abbott probed Bishop's loyalty. "Come on," she replied, "I shouldn't have to do this. I'm not your problem. You're your own worst enemy."
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...and-julie-bishop-cracked-20150206-13884m.html
In a private conversation before the dinner, Abbott probed Bishop's loyalty. "Come on," she replied, "I shouldn't have to do this. I'm not your problem. You're your own worst enemy."
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...and-julie-bishop-cracked-20150206-13884m.html
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I think the PM will still be there after Tuesday.
The real question is, has he learned anything? Will he make changes?
Or will Sir Humphrey still rule the roost.
The real question is, has he learned anything? Will he make changes?
Or will Sir Humphrey still rule the roost.
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Tony Abbott may well be PM after Tuesday , but he will be a rotting political corpse. And as he starts to stink the rest of the Cabinet will find themselves tainted with the stench.
He has lost the confidence of significant parts of of his party. He has lost the respect of many Liberal voters as well as community groups. His own confidence will be incredibly challenged.
There is the Lazarus with a triple bypass possibility. Perhaps a Road to Damascus conversion. I just cannot see how he will ever become confident, inclusive, creative and above all respected as an effective political leader.
He has lost the confidence of significant parts of of his party. He has lost the respect of many Liberal voters as well as community groups. His own confidence will be incredibly challenged.
There is the Lazarus with a triple bypass possibility. Perhaps a Road to Damascus conversion. I just cannot see how he will ever become confident, inclusive, creative and above all respected as an effective political leader.
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Tony Abbott may well be PM after Tuesday , but he will be a rotting political corpse. And as he starts to stink the rest of the Cabinet will find themselves tainted with the stench.
He has lost the confidence of significant parts of of his party. He has lost the respect of many Liberal voters as well as community groups. His own confidence will be incredibly challenged.
There is the Lazarus with a triple bypass possibility. Perhaps a Road to Damascus conversion. I just cannot see how he will ever become confident, inclusive, creative and above all respected as an effective political leader.
+1 That about sums it up.
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I fear you're right, but I'll be hoping for a change. Otherwise we are stuck with an ineffectual government for the next 18 months, most likely followed by Shorten who will be as bad or worse.
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The ALP will certainly be hoping that the Liberals keep Tony as leader right through to the next election.
Regardless of whether or not he survives next week and remains PM, it would take a monumental blunder by the ALP for the Coalition to somehow end up being re-elected with Tony running the show. He just doesn't have the required leadership qualities for a PM and that seems obvious to most.
If it were in business then I'd say he's a good salesman. He's good at selling but no good once the sale is made and delivery is required. He apparently lacks what it takes to be in management or part of the technical, production or accounting teams. Which leaves him with sales, that being the thing he did fairly well as Leader of the Opposition when sales is all that is required.
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He'll be gone by the end of Tuesday and the above five posts illustrate why.
We're just going through the motions now.
We're just going through the motions now.
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On matters policy,
At least dividend imputation is to no longer be raided but a two-tiered corporate tax rate is still a bit silly in that it's a new complication of on top of an already overall complicated tax system.
http://www.smartcompany.com.au/lega...ads-keeforce-to-axe-jobs-midday-roundup.html#
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At least dividend imputation is to no longer be raided but a two-tiered corporate tax rate is still a bit silly in that it's a new complication of on top of an already overall complicated tax system.
http://www.smartcompany.com.au/lega...ads-keeforce-to-axe-jobs-midday-roundup.html#
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Bringing such an additional complication into play, would indeed be the dumbest thing they could do. Before the last election, Companies and ATO had bedded down the Resources Rent and Carbon Taxes. Only a bunch of ideology-driven morons could have reversed those two and then cry poor over insufficient revenue to balance the budget. Arithmetic 101, Stupid!
Changes in rates don't add much complication as it's just a change in the arithmetic. No doubt companies will try to game the system to try to qualify as small companies but in that case it will be them who will be complicating matters.
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The MRRT was to raise money (which it largely didn't) which was spent anyway thus raising debt.
The carbon tax was to save the planet from global warming (insert above statement in brackets here), not raise money ??
Both were poor policy and remain so today. Carbon pricing's only potential is if all the world's major economies come on board.
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Splitting is one option as is a little manipulation around the $5m threshold.
True but it's a bit rich for companies to complain about the complexity of the tax system when a lot of the complexity is there to prevent them from gaming it.
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Not at all. A CT helps reduce local pollution (burning coal produces more that just co2) and encourages development of other forms of energy which reduces energy demand on the main grid and reduces the need for the capital expenditure on large fossil fuel stations.
More people with power stations on their roofs means less that has to be produced en masse. The problem is not for the consumer its for governments who find the value of energy assets reduced and therefore less saleable, but overall we the taxpayer have paid for them already so why should we suffer higher energy costs to make the blunderbusses more attractive to the private sector who will then keep power prices high to maintain profit ?
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I see a much broader issue than anything to do with carbon there, and that's a fundamental question. What, exactly, is Australia's future economically? Where does it lie?
Manufacturing is stuffed, agriculture has been uncompetitive for years as a bulk commodity producer, the writing is very clearly on the wall for mining and we're uncompetitive at back office work.
What, exactly, are we going to do when mining goes kaput?
Mining bust? Three reasons why it's inevitable.
Firstly because we're now heading down the slope of having to extract the lower grade, higher cost resources since the better ones are already in production. You know things aren't good when someone's interested in mining coal in Tasmania and exporting it - small scale, high cost, inferior quality too. Much the same with the new mines in Qld - lower quality and with very high costs to set it up.
Secondly because our overall costs are simply becoming uncompetitive. We're not the only country with minerals, plenty of others can do it cheaper than we can. That reality is already hitting home in the gas industry.
Third because we're heavily reliant on exporting coal and increasingly gas. It seems pretty clear that the world isn't going to want to buy fossil fuels forever.
So what's the plan when the game is up? CO2 aside, there's a very real economic issue for Australia here.
'For the cloth-ears of the reactionary right'
Add to that the impetus toward more energy efficient Appliances and fuel efficient vehicles and then the capacity for more and more people to become energy independent as thresholds of industrial scale are broached on all those associated fields of endeavour... even a moron could see the immediate advantages for employment and the economy let alone the massive longer term advances.
Solar panels at trade price are under $0.80cents/watt.... wind the cheapest form of electricity generation...great prospects for hydrogen storage out UNSW...
Any word from the incumbent industry minister (another with his head on the block) on any of what is the 'NOW' let alone the future...
what are the odds of a science minister in the very near future... without out one I don't like ours.
I see a much broader issue than anything to do with carbon there, and that's a fundamental question. What, exactly, is Australia's future economically? Where does it lie?
Manufacturing is stuffed, agriculture has been uncompetitive for years as a bulk commodity producer, the writing is very clearly on the wall for mining and we're uncompetitive at back office work.
What, exactly, are we going to do when mining goes kaput?
Mining bust? Three reasons why it's inevitable.
Firstly because we're now heading down the slope of having to extract the lower grade, higher cost resources since the better ones are already in production. You know things aren't good when someone's interested in mining coal in Tasmania and exporting it - small scale, high cost, inferior quality too. Much the same with the new mines in Qld - lower quality and with very high costs to set it up.
Secondly because our overall costs are simply becoming uncompetitive. We're not the only country with minerals, plenty of others can do it cheaper than we can. That reality is already hitting home in the gas industry.
Third because we're heavily reliant on exporting coal and increasingly gas. It seems pretty clear that the world isn't going to want to buy fossil fuels forever.
So what's the plan when the game is up? CO2 aside, there's a very real economic issue for Australia here.
Sell houses to each other and help corrupt chinese officials launder their money by selling them houses.