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Then there's Tony's supporters:

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pixel said:
That's the problem: The Aussie electorate voted them in! :banghead:
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The electorate can only vote from the candidates on offer. Voting is compulsory so the least worst choice has to be made. It is entirely wrong to interpret that as people having voted FOR any belief in the capacity of the person whose box they reluctantly ticked.

The thing that irks me most: Abbott doesn't even argue about the Common Wealth, but only whinges that Libs are not Labor and must therefore follow their leader. What a bag of twaddle! Even if we know he doesn't care about ordinary Australians half as much as about himself: he could at least pretend... :1zhelp:
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We all see what we want to see. My interpretation of the behaviour and personalities of TA, MT, and BS is that, despite the woeful stumblings, it's probably TA who most has Australia's interests at heart. The other two are all about themselves.

Do you really want someone whose main talent is an empty capacity to deliver motherhood statements and impressive sounding rhetoric? Didn't we have that in Kevin Rudd? He was great on the oratory but a complete failure on the actual delivery. Yet you want someone to 'pretend' about their real objectives and views?

I just do not understand that.
 
it's probably TA who most has Australia's interests at heart. The other two are all about themselves.
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And how does he demonstrate that "interest" ? By destroying the car industry ? Increasing the price of education ? Deprecating the role of science and technology in favour of pulling rocks out of the ground while mineral prices fall through the floor ?

Even most of the Liberal supporters here admit he is a stumbler with no vision. Two disastrous State government defeats can be sheeted home in large part to his management style.

He may be a nice guy for all I know but if he stays in, he will drag the Libs down like he did to Victoria and Queensland and take the rest of the country down with him.
 
SirRumpole said:
And how does he demonstrate that "interest" ? By destroying the car industry ? Increasing the price of education ? Deprecating the role of science and technology in favour of pulling rocks out of the ground while mineral prices fall through the floor ?
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So you think the Australian car industry will be saved, if Labor return to office?
The cost of education will be less and we will shut down mining, sounds like a fairy tale to me.:D
 
SirRumpole said:
And how does he demonstrate that "interest" ? By destroying the car industry ? Increasing the price of education ? Deprecating the role of science and technology in favour of pulling rocks out of the ground while mineral prices fall through the floor ?

Even most of the Liberal supporters here admit he is a stumbler with no vision. Two disastrous State government defeats can be sheeted home in large part to his management style.

He may be a nice guy for all I know but if he stays in, he will drag the Libs down like he did to Victoria and Queensland and take the rest of the country down with him.
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Julia's statement didn't strike me as a defence of his prime ministership but rather a reflection of his character relative to Labor's leaders.

In that sense, I agree. He has the nation's interests more at heart than the hypocritical Labor party who block their own savings in the senate and the Greens who don't even believe in sovereign nationhood.
 
Is this the final nail in the coffin of Tony Abbott's prime ministership ?

The Queensland election result is headed for the courts, with the Electoral Commission planning to refer the seat of Ferny Grove to the Court of Disputed Returns.

It will then determine whether to order a by-election, because a candidate there was disqualified.
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If the current three undecided seats fall the way they're most likely to fall and Ferny Grove goes to a by-election, office is still up for grabs in Queensland.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-...esult-in-hands-of-the-courts-ecq-says/6078592
 
drsmith said:
Julia's statement didn't strike me as a defence of his prime ministership but rather a reflection of his character relative to Labor's leaders.

In that sense, I agree. He has the nation's interests more at heart than the hypocritical Labor party who block their own savings in the senate and the Greens who don't even believe in sovereign nationhood.
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Is it hypocrisy to block cost savings in opposition then state you will cut the deficit, cut taxes all while not cutting spending on health education the ABC etc etc, only to then renege on those promises at the first opportunity? Abbott seems to run to the defence of the Banks and Mining companies before those who actually vote.

One of the first things Abbott did in office was to try and wind back the protections of the FOFA legislation. The NBN promise was broken within 3 months of being elected. Australian students already pay considerably more than the OECD average for their education, yet Abbott believes they should pay more, take on more debt.

It has been these and many many more poor choices that have gotten the Abbott Govt is into so much strife. How many times can they shoot themselves in the foot? Parliament isn't even sitting and the whole summer has been about the poor choices of the Government. It's raining barnacles with no end in site.

I don't know how you can argue that you are 100% sure this is better than what Labor would have offered. I think it'd be a neck and neck race for the tweedle brothers :2twocents
 
drsmith said:
What about Labor and what they had to offer ?

Some of it was so good they're now blocking it in the senate.
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You are sounding a lot like a desperate Abbott, face it the Coalition has blown up in the worst possible way the back bench wants its leader gone and I dare say more than 1/2 of the front bench with him.

Its a massive move rarely seen, face it other than the boats this mob have absolutely stuffed it in every way with sheer arrogance also rarely seen and as a example basically achieved higher spending while claiming the budget is now under control WTF.

And you say better than Labor..........
 
drsmith said:
What about Labor and what they had to offer ?
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The Gulags would have a nicer coat of paint... And Rudd, like Turnbull, can afford to educate their children without 'plain brown paper bag' scholarships.... Could have the budget have beeeeen as big a fiasco? Newman might likely be still Premier... Bernadi's blood pressure would be higher... Kevin Andrews would be just as relevant. Bronwyn Bishop wouldn't look as ridiculous, Christopher Pyne would. etc etc.. in short quite a lot.

Don't you really mean ; the Labor / Green Alliance??

Oh, and a Science Minister.....
 
I love this. The discussion board party faithful are so hell bent on showing how open minded they are, they are giving up rusted_on in favour of eutectic bonding. And the squirmy pipe and slippers veneer of "I'm not a Liberal voter" is just so humorous. :D

Imposters of the original Liberal Party doctrine are everywhere from the highest seat in the land to the blue collar wannabe King pauper princes.

Take a look at Turnbull and you will see the closest thing to a true Liberal Party believer, like him or not. Personally I think he is happy with the stick in "D" and the radio turned up.

It's pretty obvious the Australian public generally don't care who is in charge (there's been zip public reaction to the latest QLD state election). When in opposition Abbott commoditised parliament and in response the public are applying consumerism rules to that product, which is not so much skewed to brand loyalty, but to brand dissatisfaction. We buy it, test it, toss it out until we find a keeper that doesn't cost a premium..... I am guilty of it.
 
When in opposition Abbott commoditised parliament and in response the public are applying consumerism rules to that product, which is not so much skewed to brand loyalty, but to brand dissatisfaction. We buy it, test it, toss it out until we find a keeper that doesn't cost a premium..... I am guilty of it.
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Why do I get the feeling that recent governments have been made in China ?

:D
 
Congratulations to all the Tony Abbott supporters. He is most certainly The Ghost That Walks.

All he has to do now in his reincarnation as the next Phantom is show just how much more capable and inclusive he can be than that Fwitted predecessor he has replaced.

Good luck !!
 
Only twelve votes need to be changed next challenge to roll Tony.On past challenges,Keating versus Hawke in particular,not too hard at all.
Can Tony change his behaviour?Can a leopard change its spots?
 
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