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SirRumpole said:
Most of us don't have multiple negative geared investment properties at the taxpayers expense.
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I think Ifocus mentioned he has a few.:xyxthumbs

SirRumpole said:
, or stash away large amounts of our bloated incomes in super taxed at 15% when our normal rate is 45%..
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Didn't you say the other day that you are a self funded retiree and don't get any handouts. So I guess you're talking about yourself with the above criticism.:D

SirRumpole said:
Fix these black holes and the rest of us may just start to think that everyone is pulling their weight.
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Well I hope they start with you two first.lol:xyxthumbs

Good old chardonay socialists, hate all the rich handouts, but are at the front of the que collecting them.:D

Anyway back to Abbott, the 'tax white paper' is due to be released. Hopefully some of the tax perks are stamped out.
 
sptrawler said:
Anyway back to Abbott, the 'tax white paper' is due to be released. Hopefully some of the tax perks are stamped out.
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Sheer gall for attacking me over tax perks and then admitting I was right all along !
 
I see Abbotts defenders here turning to name calling never a pretty sight :)

Abbott needs to go to a DD........except the real winners would be the minor parties and the Coalition know it.


Everywhere Tony Abbott turns, there's a barrier he placed there himself


The Abbott administration has become the government that snookered itself.

The prime minister’s 45-minute media conference on Monday was a determined attempt to manoeuvre himself out of a dire political situation and reset the debate.

With even the conservative commentariat attacking his government, it was calculated to give the impression he was listening (sure, things have been a bit ragged) and making concessions (yes, ABC cuts are at odds with what I said before the election), while pointing out hand on heart that he had “guts” and “conviction” (one thing no one had ever really doubted).

But besides a minor concession on Australian Defence Force allowances and accepting the bleeding obvious about his broken promise on the ABC, there were no actual changes to give effect to the “reset”. That may be because every way the prime minister turns there’s an obstacle he put there himself.
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http://www.theguardian.com/australi...urns-theres-a-barrier-he-placed-there-himself
 
IFocus said:
I see Abbotts defenders here turning to name calling never a pretty sight :)

Abbott needs to go to a DD........except the real winners would be the minor parties and the Coalition know it.


Everywhere Tony Abbott turns, there's a barrier he placed there himself


The Abbott administration has become the government that snookered itself.
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I think he did rather well this morning on CH9 with his foil Karl helping him out.

Now did I not prophesise that Peta Credlin might have some rejigging to do with the marionette strings? And here are you lot thinking no one listens to us. :rolleyes:
 
sptrawler said:
No that's the wrong way around, sheer gall of using them to attain your position, then attacking them.:D
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I never got near the ability to afford multiple rental properties or the income to use super for tax avoidance, so there is no gall in my position , unlike yours.
 
Joe showing he has things under control

So last night Labor asked Hockey if the Government would allow a competitive tender for the looming submarines acquisition?

Hockey answer "No. We don’t have time”.

Uhm, we are talking a decade away for first delivery. We are talking about a $20B program.

Could the Govt be starting to realise the employment crisis looming due to the car manufactures shutting up shop coinciding with the resource boom CAPEX cliff?

Then we have Joe telling Fran Kelly that the FTAs signed this year couldn't have happened if the Govt had continued to support local car manufacturing. That's an interesting cat to let out of the bag. Should make the workers looking at retrenchment quite happy to know what their sacrifices are being rewarded with.

He must have been channelling Costello with his one for mum and one for dad and one for the country by saying "Don’t let Santa down. Get out and spend for Christmas." Oh yeah, spend like it's the early 2000s and get the country back to a negative savings rate. That made getting a budget surplus so much easier, though the hockey stick like rise in private debt wasn't so good.
 
Andrew Leigh (Shadow Assistant Treasurer) is in the process of moving a private members bill to bring forward the time frame from late 2015 for when the ATO will start publishing the tax return data of companies with over $100M in revenue.

Hopefully Abbott will be supportive. Considering some of the information dug up in the SMH regarding google / apple / glencore and the ways they shift profits out of the country, it would be good to have a publicly accessible web site to see exactly how much tax large companies are paying.

It will also be rather interesting to see just how many companies are tardy in lodging their tax returns.

It will at least let the public become better informed about just how big or small this issue really is.

Pre election Abbott said he would run a Govt "which is transparent and open." Lets hope he follows through on this.
 
sydboy007 said:
Joe showing he has things under control

So last night Labor asked Hockey if the Government would allow a competitive tender for the looming submarines acquisition?

Hockey answer "No. We don’t have time”.

Uhm, we are talking a decade away for first delivery. We are talking about a $20B program.

Could the Govt be starting to realise the employment crisis looming due to the car manufactures shutting up shop coinciding with the resource boom CAPEX cliff?

Then we have Joe telling Fran Kelly that the FTAs signed this year couldn't have happened if the Govt had continued to support local car manufacturing. That's an interesting cat to let out of the bag. Should make the workers looking at retrenchment quite happy to know what their sacrifices are being rewarded with.

He must have been channelling Costello with his one for mum and one for dad and one for the country by saying "Don’t let Santa down. Get out and spend for Christmas." Oh yeah, spend like it's the early 2000s and get the country back to a negative savings rate. That made getting a budget surplus so much easier, though the hockey stick like rise in private debt wasn't so good.
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I can't for the life of me understand why we are getting submarines anyway, seems like an absolute waste of money, considering the size of our coastline.
Joe must be on borrowed time.IMO
 
sptrawler said:
I can't for the life of me understand why we are getting submarines anyway, seems like an absolute waste of money, considering the size of our coastline.
Joe must be on borrowed time.IMO
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That's why we have all the other gear so we can locate enemy ships and then the submarines can move in for the kill.
 
banco said:
That's why we have all the other gear so we can locate enemy ships and then the submarines can move in for the kill.
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Yes, I can see it now.
We have a group of ships heading toward Broome, someone ring Sydney, to get the subs warmed up.:D
 
sptrawler said:
Yes, I can see it now.
We have a group of ships heading toward Broome, someone ring Sydney, to get the subs warmed up.:D
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I'm guessing the submarine boats won't be powered by the Falcon engine ... damn those factory closures.
 
sptrawler said:
They would want to be a bit quieter, than the Collins class subs.
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(Inside a Chinese submarine)

Sailor:
Sir (salutes)
We have detected a sound like a two stroke motor slowly travelling up the coast from Sydney but it appears to be located underwater.

Captain: It's a Collins Class submarine, I'm scared! (crew laugh at Captains' joke)
 
sydboy007 said:
Pre election Abbott said he would run a Govt "which is transparent and open." Lets hope he follows through on this.
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I think we should remember that the Abbott Party wasn't necessarily voted in, but the Rudderless ALP Ship voted out...if only to get a break from Newscorp wasting our subscriptions on fishwifery headlines and financial doomsday prophesies and to put the ALP out of its misery.

Only the foolish would have ever put much stock in an pugnacious politician to ever be a genuine conciliation leader who could galvanise the nation, rather than polarise it. Tony does not have the visionary credentials to tug a nation along like he can his cabinet .... thus he will never earn the nickname of Tugger Tony ....on the otherhand.... :D
 
Knobby22 said:
(Inside a Chinese submarine)

Sailor:
Sir (salutes)
We have detected a sound like a two stroke motor slowly travelling up the coast from Sydney but it appears to be located underwater.

Captain: It's a Collins Class submarine, I'm scared! (crew laugh at Captains' joke)
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Yes I worked with an ex submariner, he used to joke that they would say, "someone switch off that engine, I can't hear myself think in here".:D
 
sydboy007 said:
Tony Abbott election promises - He said they were commitments "you can trust me to keep".

These are some of the election promises Tony will hopefully see as "core"

* Stop the boats
Measurement: No boats arriving after january 2015 - this gives Abbott well over a year to implement an effective policy.

* $1 billion reduction in Business compliance costs
measurement: Cumulative reduction of $1B by the next election of business compliance costs.

* PPL Scheme
Measurement: Scheme fully operational by July 2015, with evidence to show it has increased the participation rate and productivity (Abbott mentions this criteria as justification for his policy) by the next election

* Public Service headcount reduction of 12000 with NO FORCED REDUNDANCIES
Measurement: A 12000 reduction in headcount via natural attrition only.

* New roads "Work on the WestConnex in Sydney, the East West Link in Melbourne, the Gateway upgrade in Brisbane, the North-South Road in Adelaide, and the Swan Bypass in Perth will be substantially underway. The Pacific Highway duplication will finally be in sight and work will have begun on the Midland Highway in Tasmania and the Range Crossing at Toowoomba."
Measurement: A bit tricky but I'd say fair to think construction on all the above projects to have been underway for at least 12 months since he's used "substantially underway".

* Choosing of site for a second Sydney Airport
Measurement: New site announced, preferably with funding commitments and schedule for when construction will commence.

* 2 million new jobs over a decade / 1 million over 5 years
Measurement: I take this commitment to mean new as in over and above the usual level of job creation in the economy. Over the last decade on average 18,249 new jobs per month were created. Over the last 10 years in Australia 2,189,986 jobs were created. So the way I see it the Coalition would need to see over 4 Million new jobs over a decade, or 2 million over 5 years. Since these things take time to start rolling out lets say employment should be some 1M higher than the current 11.66 Million ie 12.66M people employed by the next election.

I think the above is reasonably objective criteria on which to measure the Abbott Govt performance. Others might want to add to the above list.
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So, just over one year in, how is he going Syd?

Try to be objective.
 
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