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One term Tony is a goner...think about it, no Aussie political leader that has been caught lying has lasted.

Hawk, Keating, Howard, Fraser all had a honest appeal and an honest record for the most part, Julia and Tony perceived as back flipping liars.
 
So_Cynical said:
One term Tony is a goner...think about it, no Aussie political leader that has been caught lying has lasted.

Hawk, Keating, Howard, Fraser all had a honest appeal and an honest record for the most part, Julia and Tony perceived as back flipping liars.
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Lying, less so in Abbotts case. I can't say I ever warmed to him that much and then consistent bad performance and (for me) sticking Hockey as treasurer was just not a good combo. He lurched way too far to the right instantly- instead of gradually leading the voters in that direction over time. Thats not to say they haven't performed in some key areas though. But Abbott is stuffed from here if he doesn't turn his image around.
 
So_Cynical said:
One term Tony is a goner...think about it, no Aussie political leader that has been caught lying has lasted.

Hawk, Keating, Howard, Fraser all had a honest appeal and an honest record for the most part, Julia and Tony perceived as back flipping liars.
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Turnover Tony :D
 
Just a thought-may or may not be justified.
If the submarines are bought from Japan,would that be payment for a free trade agreement with Japan?
By not being willing to be transparent about the submarine contract or tender process, I wonder whether the deal has already been done?
 
chiff said:
Just a thought-may or may not be justified.
If the submarines are bought from Japan,would that be payment for a free trade agreement with Japan?
By not being willing to be transparent about the submarine contract or tender process, I wonder whether the deal has already been done?
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Maybe, plus the fact that the LNP have a hatred for Australian workers, especially those who are union members.
 
I saw both the Gillard interview, with her sing-song 'There will be no carbon tax...', and the Abbott interview, with the dramatic 'No cuts to SBS, no cuts to the ABC...'

In each case I thought...this will come back to bite them, and so it has.

But this is what pollies do when they're running hard for election.
 
chiff said:
Just a thought-may or may not be justified.
If the submarines are bought from Japan,would that be payment for a free trade agreement with Japan?
By not being willing to be transparent about the submarine contract or tender process, I wonder whether the deal has already been done?
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I think the Japan deal is a furphy designed to sucker punch Labor and pork barrel the SA electorate.
 
Tisme said:
I think the Japan deal is a furphy designed to sucker punch Labor and pork barrel the SA electorate.
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It could end up that way but the " couldn't build a canoe " statement points to Japanese subs.
 
SirRumpole said:
Maybe, plus the fact that the LNP have a hatred for Australian workers, especially those who are union members.
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Oh gawd Rumpy you really are clutching at straws now......That is nothing more and nothing less than Fabian propaganda.

The LNP don't hate Australian workers and you know it......perhaps those militant unions might come into that category and for good reasons why......Just follow the Royal Commission into the corruption in the unions and you will see the reasons why..
 
IFocus said:
It could end up that way but the " couldn't build a canoe " statement points to Japanese subs.
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Why should we subsidize the unions in building ships in Adelaide?

The last ship they launched was $300,000,000 over budget and 21 months late compliments of the unions.

I say let them tender for Submarines on the world market with penalties applied for late delivery....There will always be a rise and fall clause in the contract provided it can be substantiated.

There is no way they should be given an open cheque book.
 
noco said:
Why should we subsidize the unions in building ships in Adelaide?

The last ship they launched was $300,000,000 over budget and 21 months late compliments of the unions.

I say let them tender for Submarines on the world market with penalties applied for late delivery....There will always be a rise and fall clause in the contract provided it can be substantiated.

There is no way they should be given an open cheque book.
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I wish the govt(s) would adopt a better tendering model. There are just too many smarty pants in govt who want to control the process with no concept of the various can go wrong laws of construction and manufacture.

The international tender model was used by the state govts for the failed ubiquitous health payroll and amalgamated services computer systems commissioned across many states (some just haven't fessed up to the billions wasted).

God help us taxpayers and our future gens if the PPP avenue is walked down.
 
drsmith said:
The ABC needs to check both its spelling and pronunciation.

It's spelt Wang but pronounced Wong.
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“Hello, Leigh Sales here from Canberra, and I’m in the office of Senator Wang – or is it Wong? “We’ve come straight to the source to try and clear it up,” Sales announced to the camera, an amused Senator Wang sitting beside her.
“Is it Wang or Wong?” she asked.
“It’s Wong,” he said.
“Wong?” Sales asked again.
“Yes,” Senator Wang confirmed.

Confused, the 7.30 host replied: “So how come I’ve only heard of you referred to as Senator Wang - in the media people call you Dio Wang.”
Senator Wang took it in his stride, saying: “I guess it’s only the way it is spelled in English”.
“But as time goes on I suspect we’ll have many “real” Wongs in Australia and probably around the world, I guess the Western world will probably be slowly adjusting to the fact that even though they’ve spelled it as Wang, it’s pronounced as Wong.”

A beaten Sales is then shown saying: “So Christopher Pyne was right and I was wrong.”

“Yes, sorry about that,” Senator Wang replied with a smile.
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http://www.news.com.au/national/edu...er-senate-defeat/story-fncynjr2-1227142885872
 
So funny. However, she doesn't get much wrong and at least had the gumption to go and ask him.

Nice, too, that poor Christopher has one small plus in his day.
 
SirRumpole said:
Maybe, plus the fact that the LNP have a hatred for Australian workers, especially those who are union members.
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As a youth the old shearer's yoused to tell me the tales of raddled sheep and the birth of the AWU.

Before the Union was born the farmers would raddle (a chalk mark across the back) to indicate that sheep had not been shorn well enough and so was deducted from the number for which he was paid.

Very fast sheares by habit shear each one the same to a clean standard due to long flat strokes. Many farmers increasingly raddled large proportions of all the sheers tallies to of coursr save money. One example up to half those shorn to the point there was a strike and the AWU was born. Like it or not there needs to be checks and ballances for a fair go.

It was from such farmers that we have the Country Party.

And lets not forget dear Joe ("don"t you worry about that") Bejockie Peterson (someone correct my spelling. After he went and during the the Fitzgerald enquiry a friend of mine was appointed the QLD Chief Police Commissiiner. So Ibknow a bit about the Country Party. Also worked on staff for SirWilliam Gunn, but he was a good bloke among them from my point then
 
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