Resisting Climate Hysteria

[wayneL]

...and probably 80% at what is termed climate science IS religion.

 

[IFocus]

And I will ask again, what are his qualifications for forecasting weather?
You obviously put a lot of faith in his ability to forecast and explain weather and climate, but others who are more skeptical have similar levels of faith.
Mick

Look him up its not hard.

His results actually count more than his qualifications worked with some seriously high intellects in my time they were actually fu&king useless at there day job.


"When did you start pursuing your career and how long did it take to become successful? Two and a half years into an Engineering double degree at Adelaide University, I realised that it wasn’t for me and I needed a change.

I was surfing a lot during those years at Adelaide University, and I was naturally interested in the ocean, waves and other physical aspects of the coastal environment. I looked into whether there were any Oceanography courses on offer in Adelaide, and Flinders University offered exactly what I was looking for.

I transferred University’s at the start of 2006, enrolled in the Ocean and Climate Sciences degree and did Honours in 2008. During those years at Flinders University I would go on surfing trips all around the South Australian coastline, documenting my travels with a camera.

When back home I would upload a small blog like post to a forum detailing my trip, the waves I surfed and commenting back and forth with other forum posters. One of those posters was my current boss and owner of Swellnet, Ben Matson."

Swellnet’s Surf Forecaster: Craig Brokensha

I grew up in the North Eastern suburbs of Adelaide, 45 minutes away from the anything that resembled a wave, and 1.5 hours away from the more consistent surf surrounding Victor Harbor. As a result,…

careerconfessions.wordpress.com

 

[Sean K]

 

[IFocus]

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That's pretty funny but sort sums up the problem or the general lack of understanding about renewables and what's hard.

The things listed actually are not the issue its more the infrastructure requirements around fault conditions, transmission etc then there is storage that's where the rubber hits the road IMHO.

 

[Sean K]

That's pretty funny but sort sums up the problem or the general lack of understanding about renewables and what's hard.

The things listed actually are not the issue its more the infrastructure requirements around fault conditions, transmission etc then there is storage that's where the rubber hits the road IMHO.

Agree, that's just the surface of it. To achieve what Labor want to achieve in 7 years in not possible. What the Greens want to achieve would put us back into caves. In the meantime, the big emitters are failing dismally to reduce emissions and China and India have a free pass until 2050, at least. Their increased emissions alone will dwarf the rest of the World in the next decade. Meanwhile, the developing World will keep heating their mud huts with dung, which will kill them much earlier than any increase in global temperature and leave them living in abject poverty.

 

[mullokintyre]

According to The Guardian, the Eu have voted to treat both Nuclar power and Gas as renewable.

So just like that , when the European way of life looks like it might become a little uncomfortable, just rewrites the definition to fix things.
I wonder if Oz will adopt the same rules, or even better, take the next step and say that Coal can be added to the new renewable list.
Mick

The idea of just reclassifying energy sources as renewable to get by some of the problems seems to be catching on.
From Cleveland.com

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Gov. Mike DeWine signed legislation that broadly expands the ability to drill for oil and gas in state parks and also legally redefines natural gas as a source of “green energy.”
A 2011 state law gave state agencies the authority, if they choose, to lease out state lands for oil and gas exploration and production. The bill signed by DeWine on Friday would change that language to say a state agency “shall” accept a lease that meets certain conditions, instead of saying it “may” do so. In other words, it forces an agency to grant the lease application from oil and gas drillers.
The term green energy typically refers to energy derived from the sun and wind, not fossil fuels. Natural gas is a fossil fuel released by digging into the earth that acts as a greenhouse gas via leakage during transport and when it’s combusted. Its main component is methane, a potent heat-trapping gas.
“Characterizing natural gas as green energy is regressive and a fallacy,” said Cinnamon Carlarne, the Robert J. Lynn Chair in Law at the Ohio State University. “Natural gas is not green energy. The labelling is a little bit Orwellian.”

DeWine said in a statement the legislation doesn’t “fundamentally change the criteria and processes” established in 2011. Additionally, he said his administration wouldn’t allow for any new surface use access in state parks. However, this could leave the door open to accessing minerals underneath state lands via surfaces of adjacent properties.

While natural gas produces a smaller carbon footprint than fuels like coal or oil, it produces a much heavier methane footprint, Carlarne said. DeWine’s policy against surface drilling is a positive, but fails to address the climate change or pollution problems with state policies expanding gas drilling.

Neil Waggoner, an advocate with the Sierra Club, largely agreed. He said the legislation will unmistakably expand drilling for resources in state parks.

Mick

 

[Sean K]

Another step towards a personal carbon budget where our purchases and lifestyle incur a carbon tax that we need to offset, or reduce our breathing, burping and farting.

 

[Sean K]

An EV will take 100,000 kms of use to pay back the emissions cost? Is this real??

 

[Sean K]

I’m sure catastrophists will have an angle here.

 

[wayneL]

Climate change and false attribution: Prof. Gad Saad

 

[sptrawler]

I wonder if Sydney can put its desalination plant on gumtree? The problem with following the science, when the science is based on assumptions, ramping and hysteria IMO.
As with everything IMO it has to be done on a sustainable, sensible path, that leads to the desired outcome, with the minimum of knee jerk reactions.

2007 Sydney desal plant gets built.

2012

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/flannery-says-it-again-the-dams-wont-fill/news-story/fc39cd244faba3e29b842e09e5b4dd5c

2020

'Game on': What happens when Sydney's desalination plant gets turned on

Head of Sydney's desal plant says authorities have 'never seen anything like' the drop of reservoir levels. How will his plant respond when it is switched on within days.

www.smh.com.au

The $2.3 billion Sydney Desalination Plant has been mothballed since July 2012. The trigger for reactivating the project will be reached by Sunday, once the city's water reservoirs dip below the 60 per cent mark.
Dam levels reached 60.0 per cent on Saturday morning, with levels dropping at the equivalent of 1 percentage point every two weeks, according to WaterNSW.

Desalination plant at Kurnell costing taxpayers $534,246 a day as it sits idle while water levels remain high​

THE desalination plant in Kurnell is costing taxpayers a whopping $195 million a year just to have the facility on standby in case water levels decrease.

Desalination plant feeds threatened koalas

Helping a hungry koala colony.

www.theleader.com.au

2023

Drier, hotter, wetter: CSIRO, BoM confirm Australia’s weather to get even worse

The State of the Climate report contains dire warnings for Australia, with more droughts, heatwaves and bushfires on the cards, studded with heavier bursts of flooding rain.

www.smh.com.au

Australia’s weather will become even more chaotic in coming years and decades, the State of the Climate report warns, piling pressure on the federal government to increase its climate targets.
The decade began with record-breaking drought and heatwaves, when bushfires blazed across the east coast. Now floods have inundated NSW and Victoria after extreme rainfall fell onto a landscape drenched for the past three years.

‘People before plants’: NSW premier commits to raising Warragamba Dam wall 14 metres

Government deems controversial project critical state infrastructure in order to have it approved ‘as quickly as possible’

www.theguardian.com

The New South Wales premier, Dominic Perrottet, has declared he will put “people before plants” as he announced the Warragamba Dam will be raised 14 metres, despite the project not having environmental approval or funding.

Speaking at the western Sydney catchment on Wednesday, Perrottet announced the dam wall raising had been declared a critical state significant infrastructure project, handing final state approval to the planning minister, Anthony Roberts.


As NSW again faces the threat of widespread flooding, with a month’s worth of rain predicted to batter saturated catchments in the coming days, the premier said raising the dam wall would save lives, save properties and help future-proof western Sydney from flood risks.

 

[The Triangle]

I wonder if Sydney can put its desalination plant on gumtree? The problem with following the science, when the science is based on assumptions, ramping and hysteria IMO.
As with everything IMO it has to be done on a sustainable, sensible path, that leads to the desired outcome, with the minimum of knee jerk reactions.

Or build a big undersea pipeline and send the water to Singapore?

 

[sptrawler]

Or build a big undersea pipeline and send the water to Singapore?

If the media said that was viable, there would be people marching in the streets demanding it should happen.

 

[wayneL]

Whatever tou think of Rebel News, this is quite interesting:

 

[Sean K]

Not sure where to start with this one.

 

[mullokintyre]

i know there are some ASF members from Sydney, and I am sure that all of you have been following the stange anomaly where for 330 days, Sydney did not record a temperature above 30 degreec C.
On the 3321st day, It was broken with a recorded temperature of 30.2.
However, that RWNJ and well known climate skeptic, Craig Kelly, posted a most interesting photo of the Sydney met sire where the weather recordings are taken.

For reasons best known to themselves, somebody at the bureau placed a solar panel at the front of the building that around the highest point of the suns azimuth, the rays would have just about been directly reflected onto the Stephenson screen where the temps are taken.

Surely the BOM are not trying to artificially inflate temperatures?
Mick

 

[Sean K]

Global Warming is coming for our libraries now.

 

[wayneL]

Rules for thee
and not for me

 

[wayneL]

It is now pretty much incontrovertible that the power's be, wish for a reduction in world population.

I have a simple question, who is they they wish to die, us or them?

 

[basilio]

So let me get this right.

"We" are no longer saying " Climate scientists are wrong, the world is not warming, climate change is an illusion (or faked) , sea levels are not rising, massive forest fires in the Arctic aren't happening, glaciers aren't melting into puddles, temperature records are not running out of control across the globe, Greenland isn't turning green ectera, ectera."

Rather the new conversation is that anyone who is rich and powerful who is trying to inspire decisive action on Climate Change is a total wamking hypocrite and must be shown every bit of contempt we possible can muster.

Clearly we can't/won't muster the same venom for the other 1000 billionaires who probably live even more luxurious lives and in many cases are active drivers of global warming through their business activities as well as personal lifestyles. Because after all -

Climate scientists are wrong, the world is not warming, climate change is an illusion (or faked) , sea levels are not rising, massive forest fires in the Arctic aren't happening, glaciers aren't melting into puddles, temperature records are running out of control across the globe, Greenland isn't turning green ectera, ectera."

But we are not going to say that any more in case some nitpicking nerd questions our veracity.