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Resisting Climate Hysteria

Humans were never part of the equation.
I guess that's an issue which is beyond you.
given you you never answer the question directly and only dance around it in an attempt to preach the self mortal high ground!
its ironic your comment

so stating the question is beyond some ones capabilities your post is very ironic
 
given you you never answer the question directly and only dance around it in an attempt to preach the self mortal high ground!
its ironic your comment

so stating the question is beyond some ones capabilities your post is very ironic
I am better than most in answering questions at ASF, and providing substantiation.
However so few of your posts are intelligible that your capacity to reason is questionable. For example, how are non-AGW events from the prehistoric past relevant to present climate concerns?
 
have not heard any warnings from the BOM etc, but I am going to have a stab at the liklihood of a Cyclone forming in the Cora Sea below the Solomons late Sunday or early Monday next week.
The forecast is for the low to creep under 1000 HP, which usually means a cyclone if the waters are warm enough.
At least a 60% chance by my reckoning.

Mick
 
FYI weather is not climate.
Maybe post here instead.
Or open a new thread on weather forecasting?
 

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Cyclone Ruby came and went without a mention.
Made it to cat 3, and battered the western side of New Cal, but no loss of life fortunately.
Mick
 
I thought the Chinese charade might have lasted a little longer.
The ink is barely dry on the COP agreement, and already China is suggesting that they are not real targets.
From South China Morning Post
A developing country is China.
Hope they don't expect Oz to pitch in a few billion to "help" this developing country as it "strives to" reach peak carbon emissions. No word on actaully reducing them, but hey thats diplomacy for ya.
Mick
 

China and Indian demand is still there and even though they are taking up more renewables, coal is going to be more than 30% of the energy mix in Asia for some time. Global net zero by 2050 seems unachievable unless there's a dramatic change in Asia. If the CAGW activists are correct, then we're doomed.


 
I'm an avid diver so the health of the reef has been of major concern to me.

Recent reports seem to indicate it's recovering and in pretty good shape.



Coral cover seems to be back around 1985 levels. Other reports are still saying it's in really bad shape, although these graphs are pretty clear. Not sure what it was like pre-1985.



Hopefully the reef continues to recover, or adapt, to the warmer water. The other consideration for the reef is that, if the Coral Sea is warming or effected by run-off from the coast, the reef starts to extend south, over time. Might have a barrier reef coming down to Victoria one day perhaps.

Doing a 7-day live aboard early next year so will post up some photos of the coral.
 
Was talking to friends in Utah last night, and they were telling me how cold it was over Christmas.
It got down to the -5 F, or -20C in our language, in the higher regions where they lived, as i was telling them how we were having a pleasant 33 (or 91 in their language) at home in OZ.
They are farmers, and take a bit of interest in the weather and climate.
Bob sent me two articles , This one from MSN
He also sent me this twitter post And this barely a month since the dire prediction of no snow in the Sierra Nevadas from the first article.
As I am sure someone will point out, its only one season, and its only weather rather than climate.
There were well above average falls in 2013 and 2019 when it was the 5th largest snowfall ever recorded.
There were also extremely low falls as in 2020.
On thwe bright side . Bob is pretty happy as it is the snowpack that provides the spring runoff that fills their dams and aquifiers.
Mick
 
More precipitation is a byproduct of climate change and is little different to record flooding events in the northern hemisphere earlier this year.
On the other hand, so are record high temperatures, and these have been astonishing with Verkhoyansk in the Arctic hitting 38 degrees celsius this year, and last year Antarctic temperatures breaching 18 degrees.
 
As you were saying @Sean K , it seems China is playing to its own song, while the rest of the World takes the birch branch to their backs.

From the article:
A report published this month by researchers at China's State Grid Corporation said energy security concerns mean the country is likely to build as much as 150 gigawatts (GW) of new coal-fired power capacity over the 2021-2025 period, bringing the total to 1,230 GW.
 

In order to reduce coal it must mean a lot of old stations will be taken off in the coming years to offset the additional plants they are building. What sort of life span do these things have? 30 Years? So, if they stop building new one's by 2025 they'll still be consuming out to 2055, at least.

Energy security needs to be a priority for Australia in the coming years. Building some fuel storage capacity in Darwin and deals with the US is a tiny step, but if supply is cut off we still have less than 30 days till everything stops. None of our new armoured vehicles will get out the door. I don't think there's any future plans to put batteries in them.
 
What sort of life span do these things have? 30 Years?
Normal lifespan assuming it's properly built it should be absolutely rock solid for 40 years of constant operation.

After that, problems start to emerge, reliability diminishes, and ultimately a point comes where for economic and practical reasons it's game over.

So as a generic answer it's 40 years hard running then a wind down over another 10 years or so during which time outages become more frequent and capacity will typically be de-rated 10 - 20%.

Example, Liddell power station in NSW. Original commissioning date 1971. Got a solid 40 years out of it apart from some trouble in the early 1980's which was ultimately due to a design flaw that took a while to become apparent but once that was resolved all was good. Over the past decade however capacity has been de-rated progressively, it's now limited to 84% of original design output, and the outage rate has steadily increased. Complete closure is to occur in two stages over the next 15 months.

That's a pretty typical life cycle scenario unless some major mishap or other circumstance kills it sooner.
 

Thanks Smurf. So, all the coal plants being built, and will be built over the next decade plus, have a 40 year plus lifespan. Something is missing in the absolute imperative to get to net zero by 2050. Can the planned off-sets meet that from what you know?
 
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