Resisting Climate Hysteria

[explod]

In Columbia in the last few days we see cars, trees, houses, many people buried and drowned(including many young children) washed away. Deforestation there has played its part but the huge and sudden rainstorms the direct culprit. The same in Indonesia, (now), many people buried in a rain driven landslide. At the same time the north eastern states in Australia, well you know about that. However the rains and storms are in strips and the rest, untouched and over increasingly large areas people are starving and moving out due to these increasing droughts, particularly Africa.

Why, full on global warming, now not only driven by our own pollution but by many multiples more from the methane releases due to permafrost melts at the two poles, Greenland (yep noco 1000 years back but not on this magnitude) and the northern tips of continents across Scandanavia, Russia, Ukraine etc.

This is causing the poles to warm, which is causing more moisture to rise, increasing wind and rain towards the equator. We have lost our steady seasonal rains here in the south which came in off the south west trade winds (as the early sailing ships did from England) All gone now, as was the mud up to the knees on our farm from May till November every year till the first drought of 68.

And on our recent floods there are many descriptions that they are the worst in 60 years etc etc, blah bla. Rubbish, collectively this is the worst in recorded history. If it had been anything like this before would they have built their towns, hotels, houses and highways there, of course not.

And the insurance companies to name a little start, there is going to be some serious head scratching.

The climate change is unfortunately going to sweep us all (including the sceptic deniers) away before we have time to correct things. But you were told, not very accurately I'll admit but in fact science can at best only follow behind. It is unpredictable but it is certainly happening and now.

 

[noco]

Of the 'scientific' Literature you like to subscribe to; who amongst them have prepared you for the bleaching and consequent death of vast areas of the barrier reef. Or do you prefer James Delingpols(on Breightbart funnily enough) assertion that these events are 'fake news'.
Which of your sources are explaining the;
* Disappearance of Arctic ice?
*East coast US and Florida's flooding?
*Exxons studies concluding the warming effects of the burning of fossil fuel on the atmosphere?
*the Koch brothers like while investigations?
*little things like the laws of thermodynamics?

*Every serious Business organisation in the country calling for an emissions trade scheme. To which the right wing of of the Federal Government seem oblivious. Oblivious is a comfortable bedfellow to delusion.

It's ok we all know....'Delusion is preferable'

Just more leftist exaggeration from the same old cracked Green records.

 

[explod]

Just more leftist exaggeration from the same old cracked Green records.

Typical, when you have no argument sling off at those who have one. And how could anyone exaggerate more than the right fascists. Jobs and Growth, Jobs and growth with no content. For every available job in Australia there are 19 applicants noco.

 

[noco]

Typical, when you have no argument sling off at those who have one. And how could anyone exaggerate more than the right fascists. Jobs and Growth, Jobs and growth with no content. For every available job in Australia there are 19 applicants noco.

There have been plenty of arguments opposing the UN scam on Climate Change or Global Warming which ever you chose to use at the time....The problem is plod you only believe in one bible and that is the Green bible.....You are so brainwashed with this false stuff and just cannot reason any other way but the Green way.

Many a prediction given out by the Greens , which includes Tim Flannery, has be proven false when those prediction did not take place.

You know as well I do this whole Global Warming caper is a scam backed up by the UN Climate Change Committee with doctored pier reviewed data....You know that 97% of 77 scientist who are well paid by the UN...They are the ones causing all this propaganda and more and more people are starting to wake up to it all.

 

[noco]

Of the 'scientific' Literature you like to subscribe to; who amongst them have prepared you for the bleaching and consequent death of vast areas of the barrier reef. Or do you prefer James Delingpols(on Breightbart funnily enough) assertion that these events are 'fake news'.
Which of your sources are explaining the;
* Disappearance of Arctic ice?
*East coast US and Florida's flooding?
*Exxons studies concluding the warming effects of the burning of fossil fuel on the atmosphere?
*the Koch brothers like while investigations?
*little things like the laws of thermodynamics?

*Every serious Business organisation in the country calling for an emissions trade scheme. To which the right wing of of the Federal Government seem oblivious. Oblivious is a comfortable bedfellow to delusion.

It's ok we all know....'Delusion is preferable'

The Arctic ice disappeared in 1940 when a 300 tonne wooden vessel St Roche sailed through and returned back again.....That vessel had no ice braking equipment......It also apparently occurred back as far as 1840......So it runs in 70 year cycles and the Arctic will build up again.

I live on the ground here in North Queensland and the majority of us know the Great Barrier Reef dying is nothing more than a hoax.......The majority of the reef in in good shape...So don't believe everything you hear from the radical Greens....Most of the bleaching has occurred north of Cooktown where there is no mining or agriculture interference......It is like sun burn and the reef will recover.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/09/23/arctic-ice-a-historical-viewpoint/

 

[Jorgensen]

Probably the only study into One Nation voters was done by David Marr....His findings were that most were older men that had worked hard in their lives.They longed for the past,the way things were in their fathers' days and in their early days.A time when minorities had no place or credibility in their world.This anti-UN theory comes out of their need to turn back the block.Climate change did not exist back then and certainly does not exist now.No evidence will be accepted.

 

[wayneL]

Typical, when you have no argument sling off at those who have one. And how could anyone exaggerate more than the right fascists. Jobs and Growth, Jobs and growth with no content. For every available job in Australia there are 19 applicants noco.

It's a bit rich a member of the watermelon totalitarian party accusing the current administration of Fascism after your party's behaviour this week.

You have got to be joking Plod.

I would be slinking away with embarrassment if I were you bro.

 

[explod]

There have been plenty of arguments opposing the UN scam on Climate Change or Global Warming which ever you chose to use at the time....The problem is plod you only believe in one bible and that is the Green bible.....You are so brainwashed with this false stuff and just cannot reason any other way but the Green way.

Many a prediction given out by the Greens , which includes Tim Flannery, has be proven false when those prediction did not take place.

You know as well I do this whole Global Warming caper is a scam backed up by the UN Climate Change Committee with doctored pier reviewed data....You know that 97% of 77 scientist who are well paid by the UN...They are the ones causing all this propaganda and more and more people are starting to wake up to it all.

We are not talking predictions. It is happening now and the UN Climate Council I have never considered to be up with it. In fact their reports are at least five years behind due to Government monitoring and delays to satisfy the oil/coal lobbies.

I follow no dogmas but my own experiences from childhood. I back the Greens more for humanitarian reasons. I am an instigator of the AUWU (Aust Unemployed Workers Union), why, because I care about the less fortunate and downtrodden. 19 applicants to the job in Australia.

The current climatic disturbances are not make believe beat ups. They are happening now with accelerating intensity. No longer so labelled hysteria, but physical facts NOW.

 

[basilio]

This story/analysis on the role of water in controlling climate adds another dimension to the convesration.

There’s another story to tell about climate change. And it starts with water
Judith D Schwartz
In this time of reckless US action, it’s crucial to shift the narrative beyond despair over fossil fuels and look at water as a primary tool of climate control


Illustration by Nicola Jennings

Monday 3 April 2017 15.00 AEST

It’s easy for all concerned about air, water and nature to descend into despair as we watch brazen rollbacks of environmental legislation in the US. Just last week, developments included an executive order to rewrite US carbon emissions rules, jeopardising the country’s ability to uphold its Paris climate talk commitment; the end of a moratorium on new coal leases; and the green-lighting of a pesticide claimed to cause harm to children. But as apathy is not an option, let’s try to think beyond the usual strategies. For one, we can recognise that the way we talk about our environmental challenges has interfered with our ability to truly grapple with them: that we limit ourselves by creating too simple a story. Specifically, the story we tell about climate.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/apr/03/climate-change-water-fossil-fuel

 

[luutzu]

An Inconvenient Sequel.

 

[basilio]

An Inconvenient Sequel.

Isn't it AMAZING what Hollywood can do with special effects.! I mean there's no way our world is actually behaving the way that Inconvienent trailer tried to show, is there ?

Couldn't be true could it ? That's what Donald Trump and Noco say so it must be so.

 

[wayneL]

Isn't it AMAZING what Hollywood can do with special effects.! I mean there's no way our world is actually behaving the way that Inconvienent trailer tried to show, is there ?

Couldn't be true could it ? That's what Donald Trump and Noco say so it must be so.

Could a point be more fallacious?

 

[noco]

Probably the only study into One Nation voters was done by David Marr....His findings were that most were older men that had worked hard in their lives.They longed for the past,the way things were in their fathers' days and in their early days.A time when minorities had no place or credibility in their world.This anti-UN theory comes out of their need to turn back the block.Climate change did not exist back then and certainly does not exist now.No evidence will be accepted.

David Marr is also a well known socialist (communist).

 

[Jorgensen]

Are you going to try to make intelligent comments.Why do you always denigrate others?

 

[noco]

We are not talking predictions. It is happening now and the UN Climate Council I have never considered to be up with it. In fact their reports are at least five years behind due to Government monitoring and delays to satisfy the oil/coal lobbies.

I follow no dogmas but my own experiences from childhood. I back the Greens more for humanitarian reasons. I am an instigator of the AUWU (Aust Unemployed Workers Union), why, because I care about the less fortunate and downtrodden. 19 applicants to the job in Australia.

The current climatic disturbances are not make believe beat ups. They are happening now with accelerating intensity. No longer so labelled hysteria, but physical facts NOW.

Plod, you are not listening....I have previously demonstrated the dud prediction from 2007 by Tim Flannary, but you chose to ignore them along with other events....Remember Flannary said, "THERE WOULD BE CONTINUOUS DROUGHTS FOR DECADES TO COME AND THERE WOULD NEVER BE ENOUGH RAINS TO FILL THE DAMS".
I have just posted an article on the Arctic whereby a 300 tonne ship sailed through the straights and returned again in 1940....The article also mentioned the Arctic iced melted in 1840.

You just cannot see past that Green bible of yours.

 

[noco]

Isn't it AMAZING what Hollywood can do with special effects.! I mean there's no way our world is actually behaving the way that Inconvienent trailer tried to show, is there ?

Couldn't be true could it ? That's what Donald Trump and Noco say so it must be so.

So you don't believe in historical events on Climate Change in the past?

You only have a one track mind on today and plods Green Bible.

 

[noco]

Are you going to try to make intelligent comments.Why do you always denigrate others?

It is because David Marr is anti One Nation.....So it is OK for him to denigrate One Nation and Pauline Hanson but not OK for me to be critical of David Marr.

 

[Jorgensen]

So you don't believe in historical events on Climate Change in the past?

You only a one track mind on today and plods Green Bible.

The difference is the rapidity of climate change today...the climate change that you like to revert to happened over longer historical periods.

 

[noco]

The difference is the rapidity of climate change today...the climate change that you like to revert to happened over longer historical periods.

Do you have a link to your comment "the climate change that you like to revert to happened over longer historical periods"?

 

[wayneL]

The difference is the rapidity of climate change today...the climate change that you like to revert to happened over longer historical periods.

Are you referring to the rapidity of retrospective adjustments?